double dipping on fp is gone

[cbj1979]

I checked in this morning at CBR. At AK now and was able to pull fp- I didn't need our scheduled fp+ so I rescheduled for later tonight at MK

 

[g-dad66]

I checked in this morning at CBR. At AK now and was able to pull fp- I didn't need our scheduled fp+ so I rescheduled for later tonight at MK

Great, thanks for the report!

 

[eastatlantaguys]

What resort are you staying at, and what day did you check in? Thanks.

We checked in 11/30 at Wilderness Lodge Villas.

 

[jtowntoflorida]

MBs/FP+/MM+ are all so glitchy that no one should rely on one report. You never know if it's a true change, or a glitch.

 

[g-dad66]

We checked in 11/30 at Wilderness Lodge Villas.

Great, thanks.

So at this point, I think we have only one report on this thread from a December 1 check-in, and one report from a December 2 check-in -- both with double-dipping working for them.

 

[Mkrop]

http://www.wdwmagic.com/other/mymag...-to-all-star-resorts.htm#.Upzn0fucuFA.twitter


This is saying All Stars starting this week:

ASSports today
ASMusic Dec4
AS Movies Dec6

Pop Continues...

MBs only...no more KTTW cards

 

[jimandami]

I am MK now (way too packed for the first week of December) and MB and FP+ is working great minus a waisted hour Sat to get my moms military Salute tickets linked and FP+ synced to ours. Double dipping is still working just FYI. I'll post a semi full post later ( I will leave out some details that may get me flamed).

I had a feeling it would be packed. There were at least 100 people getting on the bus at BC at 9:10 this morning. Plus, it's a non-party day with evening EMH. Recipe for huge crowds!

 

[pigletto]

http://www.wdwmagic.com/other/mymag...-to-all-star-resorts.htm#.Upzn0fucuFA.twitter


This is saying All Stars starting this week:

ASSports today
ASMusic Dec4
AS Movies Dec6

Pop Continues...

MBs only...no more KTTW cards

Here it comes.
I expect every resort to be on board by the Christmas rush. I predict my resort (Wilderness Lodge) to start on December 14th.. simply because that's the day I arrive.
I planned all along to only have the benefit of fastpass+. It was a gamble and an expensive one at that. I had old 2 day tickets that I couldn't add to MDE despite them assuring me they would fix it (it's been 3 months) and I couldn't even upgrade those until I got there.
That would have left me making fastpass+ reservations the day I got there. So I sacrificed the $700 in value on those tickets and bought all new ones simply to make fastpass+ reservations. I wasn't taking the chance of being locked out of any fastpass at all on our once in a lifetime Holiday trip. $700 extra in tickets was NOT in the budget. To say that waiting for the I.T. department to straighten out my issue (which never happened), and spending all that extra money left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth would be an understatement.
However, we are set to leave in 11 days, I am excited for the trip, and glad I made the decision I did. I expect to have a great time and the kids are so excited they can barely stand it.

 

[patty57]

Here it comes.
I expect every resort to be on board by the Christmas rush. I predict my resort (Wilderness Lodge) to start on December 14th.. simply because that's the day I arrive.
I planned all along to only have the benefit of fastpass+. It was a gamble and an expensive one at that. I had old 2 day tickets that I couldn't add to MDE despite them assuring me they would fix it (it's been 3 months) and I couldn't even upgrade those until I got there.
That would have left me making fastpass+ reservations the day I got there. So I sacrificed the $700 in value on those tickets and bought all new ones simply to make fastpass+ reservations. I wasn't taking the chance of being locked out of any fastpass at all on our once in a lifetime Holiday trip. $700 extra in tickets was NOT in the budget. To say that waiting for the I.T. department to straighten out my issue (which never happened), and spending all that extra money left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth would be an understatement.
However, we are set to leave in 11 days, I am excited for the trip, and glad I made the decision I did. I expect to have a great time and the kids are so excited they can barely stand it.

The extra $700 expense for tickets is truly a shame, and I'm so sorry about that, but Wilderness Lodge! In December!! How exciting and fun. Hope you have a wonderful time.

 

[pigletto]

The extra $700 expense for tickets is truly a shame, and I'm so sorry about that, but Wilderness Lodge! In December!! How exciting and fun. Hope you have a wonderful time.

Thank you!!! As much as I don't like these changes .. they are coming. So we are all set to have a wonderful trip and make some memories

 

[StuckInKS]

But again, the rule of FP- is that you have to wait 2 hours or until your return window before you can get another FP-. Using an expired card to get another FP- earlier than that (in fact, if you had enough cards, you could get unlimited FP-) was breaking that rule.

Well in that case, using your 3-year-old's FP to ride Space Mountain after you used your own and before your two hour wait is up it also against the rules. I am sure NO one has done that It falls into the same type of gray area that is not a written rule, but that does help circumvent a written rule, like using old KTTW cards.

We don't have any old KTTW cards that would work, but am glad that they kept FP- in place with current KTTW cards because we had major problems with our MBs, missed many FP+ reservations trying to get it all worked out with CS and were not compensated with ANY additional FP (or anything else like some other lucky people) for the ones we missed and hours we wasted getting it all figured out. We just would have been SOL.

So while some people want to end the "unfairness" that is double dipping, I see it as necessary until Disney can get their you-know-what straight.

 

[wn01aa]

That is indeed the case. EXPIRED cards are EXPIRED! People who have legitimate tickets/cards/bands/KTTWC can get fast passes at the kiosk as per the old system in WDW. AND if they go online they can book their 3 FP+…

Gee sounds pretty good to me. And hey ya know what? It was !!!

What do I do since I am staying at POP and wont get a KTTW card. I feel like a second class citizen with people like you getting to double dip!

 

[pigletto]

What do I do since I am staying at POP and wont get a KTTW card. I feel like a second class citizen with people like you getting to double dip!

Exactly. People aren't taking your situation into consideration with flippant "Well it worked for me so it's great!" responses.
Fwiw.. I don't think anyone in any resort is going to be able to double dip much longer with the rollout of this policy at all of the AllStars coming this week. So it won't just be Pop guests. I still completely understand your frustration though.

 

[wn01aa]

Exactly. People aren't taking your situation into consideration with flippant "Well it worked for me so it's great!" responses.
Fwiw.. I don't think anyone in any resort is going to be able to double dip much longer with the rollout of this policy at all of the AllStars coming this week. So it won't just be Pop guests. I still completely understand your frustration though.

Agreed. Leaving on December 14th to the POP and I think all value and mods will have been added by then with deluxe being added the week I am there.

 

[pigletto]

Agreed. Leaving on December 14th to the POP and I think all value and mods will have been added by then with deluxe being added the week I am there.

We check in to WL on the 14th too. I expect us to be already added and if not, I think it will be the week I am there as well.

 

[Mouse13]

New to DW and want to clarify, can you get FP- with your original ticket along with FP+ on your Magic Band? Or is it 3 FP+ only?

 

[Planogirl]

New to DW and want to clarify, can you get FP- with your original ticket along with FP+ on your Magic Band? Or is it 3 FP+ only?

You can get both at most resorts. For now at least. They 3 FP+ limit is only for FP+.

 

[angey77]

In case anyone is wondering if using both FP+ and a room key for legacy FP is wrong, I don't think it is in Disney's eyes. We stayed at VGF the week before Thanksgiving and used both (mainly because when I would try to reschedule a FP+, the app sucked, and if I could not reschedule and legacy FP was available, I was going to get one just like every Joe on the street).
Anyway, when I returned home, I was emailed a survey about the whole MDE and how it pertained to my week. Some questions blatantly addressed how often legacy FP via resort key was used by my family in comparison to FP+. One question even asked which I preferred using during this particular trip.

 

[Eosphotog]

In case anyone is wondering if using both FP+ and a room key for legacy FP is wrong, I don't think it is in Disney's eyes.

It is perplexing that Disney allows expired media to pull FP-. It should be trivial for Disney to check the validity of the ticket (was it used to gain access to the park that day? Are there even active days left?) - afterall they are able to determine whether the media can pull a new FP. There has to be a good reason to allow this... especially given there is a fairness/balancing factor here.

 

[wn01aa]

It is perplexing that Disney allows expired media to pull FP-. It should be trivial for Disney to check the validity of the ticket (was it used to gain access to the park that day? Are there even active days left?) - afterall they are able to determine whether the media can pull a new FP. There has to be a good reason to allow this... especially given there is a fairness/balancing factor here.

I think the root of it is that Disney doesn't care about the loopholes and unfair advantages/disadvantages with the FP- machines. Besides knowing the person has a MagicBand, I am sure other things could have been done like limiting FP- to 3 passes per day, so it would be the same as onsite FP+. I just don't think they care or want to invest any time or money into those machines as they vision them being gone sooner rather then later. I wonder if Kenny the Pirate's FP+ method has been patched yet too. So many fires to put out it looks like.