Donating Blood

A nurse I once worked with was refused during a work related blood drive, simply because she asked questions. Seriously. They felt that given her questions she wasn't being truthful, which wasn't the case, she just wondered.

Man was she wicked pissed! :scared1:
 
Just wanted to remind everyone, it is the FDA, not the red cross, that makes the rules for donor blood. so complaining to your local red cross won't do much. Around here red cross doesn't do blood collections, a group called Medic Regional Blood Center does and they follow the same rules. At this point I have donated so many times I have the questioner about memorized.

Actually this point about hte difference between it being an FDA rule and a Red Cross rule is correct....PARTIALLY. LGBTIQ healthcare equality & advocacy is actually the field in which I work professionally. (I have, ironically, just returned from the National LGBTI Health Summit in Chicago yesterday!) So I am often doing advocacy and education around the ban on gay and bisexual men's blood (and sperm, actually....we are not allowed to donate sperm in fertility clinics either unless our sperm has been requested by a specific recipient). The rule banning blood from any man who has had sex with another man since the year 1977 is, indeed, an FDA rule that the Red Cross is forced to follow. It is true that the Red Cross has publicly stated that they are in favor of revising the rule...HOWEVER, it is important to note that the last time the Red Cross proposed a revision to the rule, they recommended not banning all gay/bi men, but simply stating that they had to be deferred or one year from their last same-sex contact-----a "revised" policy that still effectively bans all sexually active adult gay/bi men from donating blood....even those who consistently practice sexual safety OR who are involved in long term monogomous relationships with an uninfected partner----so, in truth, this "lifting of the ban" is a semantic smoke screen. Others are absolutely right that questions used to defer potential blood donors should be altered to be more risk AND time-specific so that they fall in line with the science of HIV and blood testing.

I realize this is a touchy issue for many to talk about, but I also agree that our community and its allies need to hold both the FDA and the Red Cross' feet to the fire on this issue and lift the ban because not only does it perpetuate institutionalized homophobia, but it is largely scientifically unnecessary AND it is epidemiologically unsound.

1.) Scientifically unnecessary: The truth is that testing for HIV has improved exponentially over the past 3 decades. The most commonly used tests today can be accurate for a window as little as 21 to 90 days after infection and there antigen-based tests (which, I might add, the Red Cross USES!!!) that can detect even acute infection in less than a 21 day window. Testing can and does detect infected blood every day in this country----so enforcin a window of over 30 years or even one year is not needed.

2.) Epidemiologically unsound: The current rules are based on the presumption that gay and bisexual men are the group of people (or at least the ONLY group of people) who are likely to have an undiagnosed HIV infection which we know in this country is no longer always in case. Take, for example, the dramatic increases we have seen in the last decade (or more) of HIV infections of heterosexual African-American women. In truth, if the FDA/Red Cross, want to ban a community of people based on what is perceived as "statistical high risk" of HIV, then they should enforce a ban on straight Black women----and, of course, they would never do so (nor SHOULD they) because it is clearly racist and sexist....

...policies like this are rooted less in science than they are in bigotry and we have a responsibility to speak out against them!
 
Actually this point about hte difference between it being an FDA rule and a Red Cross rule is correct....PARTIALLY. LGBTIQ healthcare equality & advocacy is actually the field in which I work professionally. (I have, ironically, just returned from the National LGBTI Health Summit in Chicago yesterday!) So I am often doing advocacy and education around the ban on gay and bisexual men's blood (and sperm, actually....we are not allowed to donate sperm in fertility clinics either unless our sperm has been requested by a specific recipient). The rule banning blood from any man who has had sex with another man since the year 1977 is, indeed, an FDA rule that the Red Cross is forced to follow. It is true that the Red Cross has publicly stated that they are in favor of revising the rule...HOWEVER, it is important to note that the last time the Red Cross proposed a revision to the rule, they recommended not banning all gay/bi men, but simply stating that they had to be deferred or one year from their last same-sex contact-----a "revised" policy that still effectively bans all sexually active adult gay/bi men from donating blood....even those who consistently practice sexual safety OR who are involved in long term monogomous relationships with an uninfected partner----so, in truth, this "lifting of the ban" is a semantic smoke screen. Others are absolutely right that questions used to defer potential blood donors should be altered to be more risk AND time-specific so that they fall in line with the science of HIV and blood testing.

I realize this is a touchy issue for many to talk about, but I also agree that our community and its allies need to hold both the FDA and the Red Cross' feet to the fire on this issue and lift the ban because not only does it perpetuate institutionalized homophobia, but it is largely scientifically unnecessary AND it is epidemiologically unsound.

1.) Scientifically unnecessary: The truth is that testing for HIV has improved exponentially over the past 3 decades. The most commonly used tests today can be accurate for a window as little as 21 to 90 days after infection and there antigen-based tests (which, I might add, the Red Cross USES!!!) that can detect even acute infection in less than a 21 day window. Testing can and does detect infected blood every day in this country----so enforcin a window of over 30 years or even one year is not needed.

2.) Epidemiologically unsound: The current rules are based on the presumption that gay and bisexual men are the group of people (or at least the ONLY group of people) who are likely to have an undiagnosed HIV infection which we know in this country is no longer always in case. Take, for example, the dramatic increases we have seen in the last decade (or more) of HIV infections of heterosexual African-American women. In truth, if the FDA/Red Cross, want to ban a community of people based on what is perceived as "statistical high risk" of HIV, then they should enforce a ban on straight Black women----and, of course, they would never do so (nor SHOULD they) because it is clearly racist and sexist....

...policies like this are rooted less in science than they are in bigotry and we have a responsibility to speak out against them!

great post :thumbsup2

your sig picture is great, the two of you are adorable :)
 

I stopped giving blood because the blood mobile technicians tried to reinsert the needle in my arm with their bare hands - no gloves. I was freaking out about that and never went back.
 
I stopped giving blood because the blood mobile technicians tried to reinsert the needle in my arm with their bare hands - no gloves. I was freaking out about that and never went back.

With respect, I thought the person wearing the gloves was protecting themselves from anything the person receiveing the needle might have, not the other way around. Not that it's right and is probably against procedure, but just wondering.
 
I can understand they're protecting themselves, but those bloodmobiles are used heavily and while I was waiting my turn, I didn't see any major disinfecting going on!
 
Actually this point about hte difference between it being an FDA rule and a Red Cross rule is correct....PARTIALLY. LGBTIQ healthcare equality & advocacy is actually the field in which I work professionally. (I have, ironically, just returned from the National LGBTI Health Summit in Chicago yesterday!) So I am often doing advocacy and education around the ban on gay and bisexual men's blood (and sperm, actually....we are not allowed to donate sperm in fertility clinics either unless our sperm has been requested by a specific recipient). The rule banning blood from any man who has had sex with another man since the year 1977 is, indeed, an FDA rule that the Red Cross is forced to follow. It is true that the Red Cross has publicly stated that they are in favor of revising the rule...HOWEVER, it is important to note that the last time the Red Cross proposed a revision to the rule, they recommended not banning all gay/bi men, but simply stating that they had to be deferred or one year from their last same-sex contact-----a "revised" policy that still effectively bans all sexually active adult gay/bi men from donating blood....even those who consistently practice sexual safety OR who are involved in long term monogomous relationships with an uninfected partner----so, in truth, this "lifting of the ban" is a semantic smoke screen. Others are absolutely right that questions used to defer potential blood donors should be altered to be more risk AND time-specific so that they fall in line with the science of HIV and blood testing.

I realize this is a touchy issue for many to talk about, but I also agree that our community and its allies need to hold both the FDA and the Red Cross' feet to the fire on this issue and lift the ban because not only does it perpetuate institutionalized homophobia, but it is largely scientifically unnecessary AND it is epidemiologically unsound.

1.) Scientifically unnecessary: The truth is that testing for HIV has improved exponentially over the past 3 decades. The most commonly used tests today can be accurate for a window as little as 21 to 90 days after infection and there antigen-based tests (which, I might add, the Red Cross USES!!!) that can detect even acute infection in less than a 21 day window. Testing can and does detect infected blood every day in this country----so enforcin a window of over 30 years or even one year is not needed.

2.) Epidemiologically unsound: The current rules are based on the presumption that gay and bisexual men are the group of people (or at least the ONLY group of people) who are likely to have an undiagnosed HIV infection which we know in this country is no longer always in case. Take, for example, the dramatic increases we have seen in the last decade (or more) of HIV infections of heterosexual African-American women. In truth, if the FDA/Red Cross, want to ban a community of people based on what is perceived as "statistical high risk" of HIV, then they should enforce a ban on straight Black women----and, of course, they would never do so (nor SHOULD they) because it is clearly racist and sexist....

...policies like this are rooted less in science than they are in bigotry and we have a responsibility to speak out against them!

Very informative :thumbsup2

Seems kind of asinine that a used-to-be-with-a-man guy can donate but a still-with-a-man guy can not. :sad2:

If anyone here is interested in privately donating... I'm an O+... ;) and I'll take the "gay blood" any day!

Just the simple fact that seeing some of you guys so upset you were turned away from helping another person is awesome! :thumbsup2 Some people wouldn't give if the other person was dying at their feet. :sad2:
 












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