Does the food appear better because it's Disney??

Once again, I can totally relate! We have a Subway, Pizza Hut and Taco Johns in my small town, and NO other chain restaurants or good family places. I also have to drive an hour to have Olive Garden or anything else above average, so I really understand.
WDW food it a wonderful "vacation" from the YUCK I can get at home. Even if is was WDW YUCK, I'd still like it more than my own town's YUCK. ;)

Wow, I hadn't looked at it from that perspective, but it makes alot of sense. I have always lived in areas with a wide variety of restaurant choices so I guess I've been spoiled in that way. Moved from the city to a rural area now-which is also a college town-so we have ample places to eat.
 
Sort of an interesting question:

I will often hear people rant and rave about the food at Disney: the infamous tuna sandwich at CHH, the schoolbread in Norway, the steak at Le Cellier.....then we will go and try these things and while they are "good," I never find them to be "great" or overwhelmingly amazing or "the best ever". I often wonder if people are misled into thinking the food is amazing because of the way Disney presents it-in a beautifully themed restaurant in the heart of the "happiest place on earth."

Is it all an illusion because it's got a Disney tag hooked onto it, with all of the other things that Disney has to offer (theming, service, atmosphere)??:confused3

I wonder if you did a taste test of these foods, outside of WDW with no connection to WDW, would you still think these foods are amazing? If someone snuck a Le Cellier filet on your place at Applebees but didn't tell you it was from Le Cellier, would you still think it's the best steak ever?

Curious to know your thoughts on this....

I think I can judge food at Disney with some impartiality.

Let's start with the tuna sandwich at Columbia Harbor House. I think the quality of the tuna salad is excellent, and the bread has substance to put it above most restaurants. I find it on par with the tuna on honey what at Panera for the same level of satisfaction. Both are good choices, IMHO.

Steak, on the other hand, is subjective. I come from a huge meat-eating area, so I have an opinion about steak. I thought Le Cellier was average, and Yachtsman's filet mignon was lacking the last time I had it. The bread service with roasted soft garlic and pull apart onion rolls outshone the steak, and sides were better than the meat I had. Shula's, on the other hand, served a better quality filet by comparison.

One of my absolute mediocre foods would be from ABC Commissary. Don't get a burger there. Ever. If you had one at this place, and then tried the Angus deluxe from Pecos Bill's, you'd find a world of difference. My favorite burger is at The Fountain at the Dolphin. Beaches and Cream's burger used to rank up there, but it's not the same.

Which brings me to the schoolbread "donut" in Norway. Years ago, people were raving about the OLD recipe sold at Kringla bakery. The new recipe that they currently serve is ok, but it's not the same one everyone used to rave about.

There are still a few things that knock my socks off. I love a lot of the dishes and desserts from Todd English's bluezoo™, some of the appetizers and a wonderful lamb ragout that was also featured last year during the S/D Food and Wine Classic, and the wild boar appetizer at Jiko, to name a few.

And yes, there are times when the most disgustingly bad comfort food can be so good. The English Bulldog sandwich served at the Rose and Crown pub (not restaurant; pub only). It's a sausage topped with mashed potatoes and cheese, served in a toasted bun with some mustard. Sounds nasty until you try it. It's not the most delicious thing unless you're having some beer with it! :thumbsup2

While many foods at WDW are decent, at least in terms of "Would I order this again?", there's only a few things I'd never order because they are just bad to mediocre.
 
Most of the food would compare very poorly to food in the real world IMHO! That steak at LeCellier is a prime example. I don't think it's good at Disney and compared to what you get outside it shameful that Disney charges what they do for it.
One of the reason WDW property is so large is to control the immediate business the environment and options. The food is over priced for being mass produced in a generic commissary the day before. The era of Disney quality dining was the 90's. The 2000's is about dining plans, affordability and new TS diners. Travel to other vacation destinations and you no longer have to make a vacation project plan to see things or dine at TS restaurants, no ADRs, no hurry up and wait in lines...just spontaneous adventure at your pace, while dining at far superior dining establishment at or below Disney's prices..just by walking-in.
 
Yes I do believe it is better because we are at Disney but as someone else posted that is a good thing. It makes my trip so much better. Most of the restaurants are also sooo much fancier than I would ever go to at home so that has something to do with it! And the past three times I have gone I got free dining or only $11 per day which has something to do with it too...to know this yummy food is FREEE!
 

One of the reason WDW property is so large is to control the immediate business the environment and options. The food is over priced for being mass produced in a generic commissary the day before.
You're referring to theme park restaurants, right? Citricos and California Grille, to name two, boast open kitchens.
 
I think, some have inhaled, an enormous amount of pixie dust and the experience is clouded, by the Disney brand. Although, personally...it can be a hit or miss. The food is never consistent, except...maybe, the brats and jäger. I confess, it could be, the jäger, influencing my opinion.;)
 
Could It be the atmesphere?,could it be the fact your on vacation?, could it be Pixie dust???,yes,yes and more yes. The fact I am eatting a buger In the happyest place on earth,will make me pay twice as much and call it the greatest buger in the world and would be worth every penny. Is there foods at Disney that i call the best I ve eaten,yep you bet. For me,its all about atmesphere and at the end of the day thats what matters to me because weather its applebes or disney if i feel welcome and I enjoy my surroundings half of the challange is done.
 
Most of the food would compare very poorly to food in the real world IMHO! That steak at LeCellier is a prime example. I don't think it's good at Disney and compared to what you get outside it shameful that Disney charges what they do for it.

I agree for some reason folks expectations are clouded by the mouse. I can honestly say that I have never had a good meal at Disney, and happily ate McDonalds for a week the last time I was there. Most of the snacks are greasy and too sweet and taste extremely artificial, just my two euro cents. I do wonder if the food at Euro Disney is better, as Europeans tend to eat very well, and most food is fresh and cooked to order, it did not fall out of the back of a sysco truck and pre- prepared in one central kitchen.:eek:
 
I agree for some reason folks expectations are clouded by the mouse. I can honestly say that I have never had a good meal at Disney, and happily ate McDonalds for a week the last time I was there. Most of the snacks are greasy and too sweet and taste extremely artificial, just my two euro cents. I do wonder if the food at Euro Disney is better, as Europeans tend to eat very well, and most food is fresh and cooked to order, it did not fall out of the back of a sysco truck and pre- prepared in one central kitchen.:eek:

Seriously????
How can you say McDonald's is good place to eat for a week and Disney is greasy and artificial in the same paragraph?

I understand McDs is less expensive, so I can understand a complaint about price....but if you are willing to eat McDs then how can you complain about quality at Disney?
 
I personally think the food is AMAZING!! Here's my perspective. 3 out of 4 people in my family have laundry lists of food allergies. We can actually eat at restaurants at WDW. Safely. In a restaurant. Without getting sick. More than just a plain steak without sides or a bunless burger without sides. This is an experience that's pretty unique to WDW. Can't beat that. Oh, and they really do make us some tasty foods. Some of the chefs at WDW have even taught me some of their tricks which I've taken home to make my own cooking better. There really are some talented chefs at WDW. Dining is an important part of our WDW vacations and we enjoy every minute of it.

There are a few restaurants an hour or so away from us that have reputations for being able to do similar things (including one belonging to the famous Chef Ming Tsai which I really want to try) but I don't travel that far for a meal. I'm sure if I had similar options near home then the food at WDW wouldn't seem quite as spectacular but as it is, it's the only place we can get food like this and we do find it quite tasty.
 
I think, some have inhaled, an enormous amount of pixie dust and the experience is clouded, by the Disney brand.

As I was sort of saying before, I think that pixie dust can make good food better, but it can't make bad food good. I simply cannot understand the people who say that Disney food is bad overall. The better table service restaurants are objectively good. The counter service restaurants are still better than most fast food burgers joints.

Regarding the comparison between Disney food and what is available near home, I live in NYC, and I think Disney food is pretty darn good. Is there much better food available in NYC (especially more interesting and inventive food)? Obviously yes, but don't think you're going to pay less than $20 per entree for that kind of quality. When I'm home I prefer to eat relatively cheaper "ethnic food" most of the time, most of which is not really comparable to Disney food. And although this reviewer only ate at signature restaurants, I think it supports my basic point:

http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/travel/escapes/27disney.html

As for the guy who "happily ate McDonalds for a week," I just have to say "to each his own." I think it's safe to say that if you're happy to eat that much McDonalds (or even Olive Garden for that matter), under any circumstances, then we just don't have any common ground for talking about food.
 
. I do wonder if the food at Euro Disney is better, as Europeans tend to eat very well, and most food is fresh and cooked to order, it did not fall out of the back of a sysco truck and pre- prepared in one central kitchen.:eek:

My opinion, Disneyland Paris is no better. Although, choices reflect European tastes.
 
yes. It depends on where you live- do you have many choices? We live in an area with any restaurant imaginable, so we're spoiled...
I think Tusker House is great, but we have plenty of restaurants here to compare it with. I can get a homemade samosa any time I want around here.
Last time we ate inside mexico, at epcot, it was terrible. We live near many Mexican restaurants that are fresh and amazing, though. If it was your first mexican outside of taco bell, might be more impressive.

I think the coffee is a sad, sick trick. No real coffee unless you find a few places that serve it, and that instant crap everywhere else!!!! That, I think, is a true shame- where in this country can you not get a good cappucino or latte at any moment? :surfweb: only disney, where you need to work for it!

but I will say- some of the alcohol is phenomenal! The tiki drinks at the poly are as good or better than tiki restaurants we go to..and the frozen grey goose lemonade in france kicks butt! :)
 
I agree for some reason folks expectations are clouded by the mouse. I can honestly say that I have never had a good meal at Disney, and happily ate McDonalds for a week the last time I was there. Most of the snacks are greasy and too sweet and taste extremely artificial, just my two euro cents. I do wonder if the food at Euro Disney is better, as Europeans tend to eat very well, and most food is fresh and cooked to order, it did not fall out of the back of a sysco truck and pre- prepared in one central kitchen.:eek:


I gotta laugh a little at this one - food in EuroDisney better....are you kidding? I am from the UK - the food at Eurodisney is TERRIBLE - the wierdest burger I ever had and waaaaaaaaaaay more overpriced than the USA!
 
I would order the CHH tuna sandwich anywhere I could find it. I like it that much.
 
I live near NYC, and I think I judge the food pretty objectively. Some food opinions are probably inflated due to factors such as the DDP and being in Disney, but you have to factor in that the judgements are relative.

The tuna sandwich at CHH is very good relative to other fast food locations. For example, I'd say it's better than Cosi, and far better than most of MK's other options.

Le Cellier's steak is a unique situation. I'd say the steak itself is on par with Outback's filet (which is fine), but the truffle butter is a really nice addition that you don't see even at higher end steakhouses. That said, Le Cellier stands out compared to most of the park restaurants (I'd say Epcot on the whole is full of overpriced, tame versions of what Americans expect to be ethnic food, while Coral Reef is worse than Applebee's and Garden Grill isn't even popular for its food). That said, I think the cheese soup is better than ABP's cheese soup, but not something that deserves the raves it gets.

I actually think Yachtsman is better than Ruth's Chris in every way aside from the entrees. So I think the steak at Yachtsman is hyped, but the rest of the menu is pretty consistent with Disney's other signatures. Most people say that Yachtsman is the best steak on the DDP, which shows awareness that steak off the DDP (such as at Shula's) is better.

Some snacks might receive a lot of hype, but that's more telling of their uniqueness. I can find frozen yogurt anywhere at home, but I've never seen pineapple soft serve anywhere besides WDW and Disneyland. So that makes the dole whip a really enjoyable treat for me. Plus, the pineapple flavor doesn't taste artificial (can't say the same about the orange), which makes it better than most of the fro yo near my house.

In terms of the signatures, I think Citricos's food scores are rather inflated. I've had better, more creative Mediterranean fare near my home for much less money. However, there are very few restaurants near me that serve food like Jiko or Artist Point. Jiko is higher quality (but less authentic) than the one South African restaurant I've been to in NYC, while the salmon at Artist Point was better than the Alaskan king salmon I had at Morimoto. However, many people say California Grill has the best sushi they've ever had, but I don't think California Grill's sushi was better than Morimoto's (but it's far better than my local sushi place).

Then there's Ohana, one of the most popular Disney restaurants. I have to say, Ohana has far less meat variety than Fogo de Chao, but Ohana's meat quality was similar. In fact, I'd say Ohana's chicken was more moist than Fogo's, and I actually preferred the oak-grilled flavor of Ohana's steak. Ohana's sides aren't as good as Fogo's salad bar, but Ohana costs way less than Fogo anyway, so I think Ohana would fare quite well even in a non-Disney setting.

So I do think Disney dining has some establishments that aren't too inflated when compared to similar places outside of the world. It obviously depends on personal experience (there are quite a few restaurants that are too dumbed down and mediocre for us to ever return to again), but that's why it's good that Disney has variety. You don't have to eat at Disney's hibachi restaurant or diner-style restaurants or whatever if you don't want. Unless you eat at French Laundry or Per Se or Le Bernardin or Alinea or Manhattan's finest restaurants all the time, the odds are pretty high that WDW will have something that's unusual to you or at least comparable in quality to similar food at home. As for being overpriced, I think that's a separate issue, but that's something Disney does on purpose to make people more likely to purchase dining plans (because that $59 surf and turf at Narcoossee's was so much more enjoyable when you used credits on it instead of paying cash, even if it didn't taste any better than lobster that costs $20).
 
As someone else mentioned, I think a lot of the appeal of Disney food is that it's unique to the reviewer. A lot of my favorite dishes were "incredible" the first time I had them, but now they're just "good", even though I know they're prepared the exact same way and with equal quality ingredients. The sheer novelty of a dish kicks it up a few notches, in my experience, so for people who haven't had that dish before, they're much more likely to see it as extraordinary.

I also wonder if that effect explains why some people will insist a dish was "changed, and not so good as before" while others who've been going longer insist it's the same as it's always been. :scratchin

I'm asking do you think the "must eats amazing food" is only perceived by guests as amazing because of the marketing that WDW does to display the food-i.e. mediocre food surrounded by amazing theming, great service, magical atmosphere in the "happiest place on earth." If you took that same food and put it on a plate outside of it's element, would you still think it's so amazing tasting or is it just an illusion?

I think it's mostly an illusion. Walt Disney was a marketing genius, Roy could outdo most on that front, and the company continues to be good at it. Marketing can't convince you that something dreadful is great once you experience it, but it can definitely take something passable into the heights. It's actually one of the more reliable ways of getting that kind of buzz for some people, so I don't see anything wrong with it. :confused3

3 out of 4 people in my family have laundry lists of food allergies. We can actually eat at restaurants at WDW. Safely. In a restaurant. Without getting sick. More than just a plain steak without sides or a bunless burger without sides. This is an experience that's pretty unique to WDW. Can't beat that.

This, IMHO, is one of the advantages of Disney's size. Because of the high turnover, they're dealing with enough people who have various allergies that it's worth their time to figure out how to cope with that.
 












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