Does the Fantasy have a Brig??

[Uncleromulus]

If so, where is it on the ship?

And what authority does the captain have to place someone in it??

 

[dclpluto]

If so, where is it on the ship?

And what authority does the captain have to place someone in it??

All cruise ships have a brig.

I hope I never find out where it's at on the ship.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

If so, where is it on the ship?

And what authority does the captain have to place someone in it??

Yes, deck two cabins.

 

[mmouse37]

Well, I'll gladly stay in my Deck 2 cabin....I mean brig.

MJ

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

There have been reports there is a brig and others say there is not a brig. The MASTER has FULL AUTHORITY to put anyone in a brig or under restraints. This would including anyone whose conduct is disturbing or a threat to others, drunk, drugs, attacks anyone, assault, or anything the Master feels is a threat to the vessel or others or themselves for that matter.

DCL, RCCL and I would expect the same on other lines, security does have restraints, cuffs, leg irons, etc. A person who requires restraints can be placed, under guard, in their own cabin or a empty one. At the next port of call any person under restraints is put ashore in the custody of local authorities.

AKK

 

[tiggergal15]

Why the concern??? Are you planing on doing something illeagal?? All ships have "brigs". Where depends on the type of ship. Could be down in the hold or anywhere the Captain deems necessary and secure enough to fit the need.The Captain of any ship has full authority to put anyone in the " brig". ...good luck...

 

[xlxo]

If it's full.... they can always put them in one of those colorful lifeboats and have trouble makers towed to the next port.

What are the rules and opportunities in International waters?

 

[stitchlovestink]

All cruise ships have a brig.

I hope I never find out where it's at on the ship.

And how do you know this to be so???

When I inquired this exact question to the senior officer in charge of security on the Dream, I was advised in fact that DCL ship DO NOT have brigs. He also told me how they dealt with detaining unruly guests if necessary. It was VERY INTERESTING!!!

 

[dclpluto]

And how do you know this to be so???

When I inquired this exact question to the senior officer in charge of security on the Dream, I was advised in fact that DCL ship DO NOT have brigs. He also told me how they dealt with detaining unruly guests if necessary. It was VERY INTERESTING!!!

They have to have somewhere to put the guests or crew that deserves to be locked up until they can get them off ship to authorities. well let's hear it if it was VERY INTERESTING

 

[Rob1872]

I'd be surprised if a cruise ship had a brig. Why would they? How often do you need to lock someone up? In the rare times you would need to lock up someone you could always handcuff them and keep them in their quarters.

However, a Master of a ship (i.e. the captain) has the authority to detain someone and put them ashore at his/her next opportunity. If the cruise ship company is unhappy with his/her decision they can fire the captain, but they can't do much at the time of the incident. By definition, the captain is responsible for all operation of the vessel; the captain is held accountable because he/she has the authority to carry out all operations. If the captain thinks the weather is too dangerous to pull into a port, then you don't pull into the port. If the captain wants to put ashore a passenger because they are a danger to the rest of his passengers, then it will happen.

 

[diznymom]

I want to read the VERY INTERESTING explanation of how DCL handles unruly guests.

 

[dclpluto]

I'd be surprised if a cruise ship had a brig. Why would they? How often do you need to lock someone up? In the rare times you would need to lock up someone you could always handcuff them and keep them in their quarters.

However, a Master of a ship (i.e. the captain) has the authority to detain someone and put them ashore at his/her next opportunity. If the cruise ship company is unhappy with his/her decision they can fire the captain, but they can't do much at the time of the incident. By definition, the captain is responsible for all operation of the vessel; the captain is held accountable because he/she has the authority to carry out all operations. If the captain thinks the weather is too dangerous to pull into a port, then you don't pull into the port. If the captain wants to put ashore a passenger because they are a danger to the rest of his passengers, then it will happen.

i imagine what happens a person will be put in a inside or port hole room with a security guard at the door. Than that room will become a temporary brig. No verendahs so the person can't commit suicide by jumping

 

[stitchlovestink]

i imagine what happens a person will be put in a inside or port hole room with a security guard at the door. Than that room will become a temporary brig. No verendahs so the person can't commit suicide by jumping

Pretty close....they are put into an inside stateroom that isn't in a high traffic area (no porthole) with 24 security posted at the door. What is very interesting is the security officer has the capability to reverse the locks and set the lock so that any cabin locks from the outside in. Meaning that whoever is inside the cabin is locked inside of it once the door closes until someone outside of the cabin opens that door or releases that lock! He told me this can easily be done on ANY of our cabins!! :O They will also use handcuffs if they feel the need. Sometimes a few sets together in front to give them some use of their hands but not too much.
What I also find interesting is DCL hires almost all of its ships's security from Europe. Why?? Because here in the states our officers are fairly dependent on the service weapon. In Europe, the police don't generally carry a weapon and have learned to deal with people using other methods....more talking first and such.... so since they can't have any service weapon on the cruise line, they found that the police who have worked in Europe tend to "work out better" on the cruiseline....not that there can be an exception...

 

[mmouse37]

We witnessed security taking an unruly guest (drunk and abusive) off to somewhere onboard. We heard he was put in a cabin with security at the door. He needed to be taken down.

MJ

 

[dclpluto]

What I also find interesting is DCL hires almost all of its ships's security from Europe. Why?? Because here in the states our officers are fairly dependent on the service weapon. In Europe, the police don't generally carry a weapon and have learned to deal with people using other methods....more talking first and such.... so since they can't have any service weapon on the cruise line, they found that the police who have worked in Europe tend to "work out better" on the cruiseline....not that there can be an exception...

Or maybe the people in the USA don't want to work for the low wages.

 

[stitchlovestink]

There are Americans who apply to DCL and do not get hired.... wages aren't always the issue....sometimes it is who is the best candidate for the job!!

 

[tvguy]

They have a morgue too. Ships are floating cities and have to deal with all the issues cities have to deal with.
I suspect things like a brig may not be a dedicated space, but a space that can be used as a brig if the need arrives. It can be used for passengers or crew. Drug running is an issue with cruise ships.

 

[C6PT7]

Or maybe the people in the USA don't want to work for the low wages.

I honestly think you may underestimate how much cruise lines value their security staff and how much they pay them.
This royal caribbean job sounds quite extensive and requires a candidate to be very well trained to be on a low wage IMO.

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There are Americans who apply to DCL and do not get hired.... wages aren't always the issue....sometimes it is who is the best candidate for the job!!

And American's have to pay tax on their earnings to. Not so for staff from other countries.

 

[mareed]

I remember hearing at one of the Captain's Corners talks that Disney does not have a brig on their ship, though I do believe the method posted about using an interior cabin with a posted guard. I also think the Captain said that they're the only cruise line that does not, and this I'd also believe! I watch the Galveston web cam sometimes and have seen police waiting to receive passengers who are escorted off in handcuffs at the end of the cruise.

 

[stitchlovestink]

They have a morgue too. Ships are floating cities and have to deal with all the issues cities have to deal with.
I suspect things like a brig may not be a dedicated space, but a space that can be used as a brig if the need arrives. It can be used for passengers or crew. Drug running is an issue with cruise ships.

Yes, the senior officer in charge of security did say they do have a tiny morgue. It is somehow 'connected' in with the health care facilities onboard. They can accommodate more than a couple of people in the morgue on board as sad as that is!!
I was told the same thing by the medical personnel I talked to that was on CC. They have to have someone on CC (not necessarily a Dr, but someone who specializes in emergency medical care... I can't remember the exact title, if it was an EMT or what) but when there isn't a ship there, they have to have someone there on the island with emergency medical training to care for CMs in case of emergency until they can get them to the hospital. It is really interesting what you can learn by talking to the CMs especially those that hold higher or more 'unique positions.