Does it make sense for a 60 yr old to buy?

Daisy54

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I've been contemplating buying a re-sale. I will be 60 years old this year and my hubby is 57. We do not have children. We do a week vacation at DW every other year, but would come every year if we could afford to stay on property. I might add that we are eligible to stay at the military Shades of Green, but we would really like having a kitchen (saves on eating out). I could see us getting about 10 or 15 years out of owning. What would you do? :confused3
 
I've been contemplating buying a re-sale. I will be 60 years old this year and my hubby is 57. We do not have children. We do a week vacation at DW every other year, but would come every year if we could afford to stay on property. I might add that we are eligible to stay at the military Shades of Green, but we would really like having a kitchen (saves on eating out). I could see us getting about 10 or 15 years out of owning. What would you do? :confused3

I would figure out the total cost of ownership for 10 and 15 years (you should be able to get info on how much the costs increase each year, and you can estimate the future from there), then figure how much it would cost you to get hotels for that same time frame (not really sure how to estimate increases in hotel rooms per year, maybe someone that stays from year to year could shed some light on that). Don't forget the cost of tickets/annual passes and transportation. If it's close, and you know you guys would enjoy it, I'd say go for it. If it's going to be a lot more expensive for one or the other, then your choice would be easier :)
 
My DH was 66 when we bought 220 points in 1999. We have since added on many times. We have enjoyed using and sharing every single point and I even had to have points transferred into our account this year.
 
I don't know if it makes sense but we did it. DH was 61 and looking to retire when we bought 210 points at BLT in 2009. We have added on twice since then and could certainly use more. Since he retired we are able to go more often and enjoy it immensely. Our kids will be splitting our contracts when we aren't able to go any more.

We are very happy we did this, best money we ever spent on ourselves.
 

I've been contemplating buying a re-sale. I will be 60 years old this year and my hubby is 57. We do not have children. We do a week vacation at DW every other year, but would come every year if we could afford to stay on property. I might add that we are eligible to stay at the military Shades of Green, but we would really like having a kitchen (saves on eating out). I could see us getting about 10 or 15 years out of owning. What would you do? :confused3
The answer is it depends. Age alone shouldn't be a negative factor but health and visit plans would be. Disney is a very expensive trip even with cheap accommodations but you're going anyway EOY. I think most find the kitchen really doesn't saves them that much but there are exceptions and you might have enough track record to know. I'd also suggest you look at non Disney timeshares that are top notch and close by, especially Hilton, Marriott, Bluegreen and Wyndham. If you do non Disney trips also, one of those might be better. Of course you could rent privately and receive most of the savings and benefit of owning with slightly more risk for a given trip but far less long term risk.
 
I've been contemplating buying a re-sale. I will be 60 years old this year and my hubby is 57. We do not have children. We do a week vacation at DW every other year, but would come every year if we could afford to stay on property. I might add that we are eligible to stay at the military Shades of Green, but we would really like having a kitchen (saves on eating out). I could see us getting about 10 or 15 years out of owning. What would you do? :confused3

It's all about you, the numbers and what you can afford.

Your likes and dislikes and the numbers will tell you if DVC can save you money.

Good luck

:earsboy: Bill
 
Another thought, Disney is an very safe place to vacation. There is lots to do even if you don't go to the theme parks. We can easily spend a week there every year without going to the theme parks.

What you may want to do is rent a members points and visit every dvc resort.
In your situation, buy where you want to stay makes sense.

Resell is the way to go! PS you will probably get 20-25 years use out of it.

Good luck on whatever decision you make.
 
I turned 60 this past December and just bought my first contract last September. I now own 3. Before I made the plunge I went through the same deliberations. Is it worth the cost for the length of time I will use it. I finally decided to buy, play until I am too old to enjoy it anymore and then sell. You only live once.
 
I turned 60 this past December and just bought my first contract last September. I now own 3. Before I made the plunge I went through the same deliberations. Is it worth the cost for the length of time I will use it. I finally decided to buy, play until I am too old to enjoy it anymore and then sell. You only live once.

Good for you!
 
I turned 60 this past December and just bought my first contract last September. I now own 3. Before I made the plunge I went through the same deliberations. Is it worth the cost for the length of time I will use it. I finally decided to buy, play until I am too old to enjoy it anymore and then sell. You only live once.
Planning to sell at that point is likely a big risk. IF one must be able to sell in 10-15 yrs, it likely isn't worth it in the OP's situation, esp if one is counting on selling for a "reasonable price" at that time as part of the cost effectiveness calculations. Other considerations would include heirs including the situations, interest and abilities.
 
We are in our early 50's and for about 2 years now we have been pondering what to do when we retire. Here is my generic way of looking at a question such as this; answer these two questions:

1 - Do we want to do this?
2 - Can we afford it w/o impacting our financial security?

If they are both "yes" then do it. My rationale is the following - for most of our lives we make big decisions that balance many priorities (others, the future, our work, etc). So ...that's what retirement can bring you; finally the opportunity to do things just because "you want to."

Your decision can be judged a success if (1) you had fun and (2) you still have financial security.
 
Planning to sell at that point is likely a big risk. IF one must be able to sell in 10-15 yrs, it likely isn't worth it in the OP's situation, esp if one is counting on selling for a "reasonable price" at that time as part of the cost effectiveness calculations. Other considerations would include heirs including the situations, interest and abilities.

I totally agree that this is not a cost effective decision and I do not expect to get any return or even break even on my contracts. My "return" is the pure entertainment and joy I will receive treating the DD, GDDs and myself to as many Disney vacations as I can until I am unable or no longer want to. Cost was not the primary factor in my decision. A big factor yes, but not the primary one.
 
Planning to sell at that point is likely a big risk. IF one must be able to sell in 10-15 yrs, it likely isn't worth it in the OP's situation, esp if one is counting on selling for a "reasonable price" at that time as part of the cost effectiveness calculations. Other considerations would include heirs including the situations, interest and abilities.

Not sure why that is considered a big risk. Seems like any time you sell, it will take 1-6 months to sell. Why would it be any bigger risk then? 10-15 years is a pretty broad time range, and long enough out to have gotten some good use out of it.
 
I totally agree that this is not a cost effective decision and I do not expect to get any return or even break even on my contracts. My "return" is the pure entertainment and joy I will receive treating the DD, GDDs and myself to as many Disney vacations as I can until I am unable or no longer want to. Cost was not the primary factor in my decision. A big factor yes, but not the primary one.
One of the issues that I see as absolute is that owning DVC has to make financial sense, thinking the numbers don't work but buying anyway is unreasonable IMO. There are other ways to take advance of DVC without committing to owning.

Not sure why that is considered a big risk. Seems like any time you sell, it will take 1-6 months to sell. Why would it be any bigger risk then? 10-15 years is a pretty broad time range, and long enough out to have gotten some good use out of it.
Because it's 10-15 years from now, a timeshare, and many of the resorts will be at or under 15 years remaining by that timeframe. IMO non one should buy expecting to be able to sell, it just doesn't make sense to make such a large commitment for relatively low return with those long term obligations and uncertainties.
 
One of the issues that I see as absolute is that owning DVC has to make financial sense, thinking the numbers don't work but buying anyway is unreasonable IMO. There are other ways to take advance of DVC without committing to owning.

Because it's 10-15 years from now, a timeshare, and many of the resorts will be at or under 15 years remaining by that timeframe. IMO non one should buy expecting to be able to sell, it just doesn't make sense to make such a large commitment for relatively low return with those long term obligations and uncertainties.

I am certain there will still be demand for a timeshare with 15 years remaining. However, it just won't be at today's prices. One could make a reasonable estimate of the residual value by doing a straight line depreciation based on todays cost vs remaining years. That 15k BCV contract today will probably be a 7.5k (in today's dollars) BCV contract in 14 or so years.

These contracts will still be changing hands with 3-5 years to go on them.
 
I am certain there will still be demand for a timeshare with 15 years remaining. However, it just won't be at today's prices. One could make a reasonable estimate of the residual value by doing a straight line depreciation based on todays cost vs remaining years. That 15k BCV contract today will probably be a 7.5k (in today's dollars) BCV contract in 14 or so years.

These contracts will still be changing hands with 3-5 years to go on them.
That's an assumption that I'm not willing to accept personally and one that I see just as unlikely to be true as it is likely. It's entirely possible that dues will go up or the economy will change or even Disney will change to the degree that one may not be able to give them away at some point and as early as 10-15 years. The idea that a 2042 resort will be worth half (adjusted for inflation) what it is today in 14 years is something I would be willing to bet is not going to be the case. I see that line of thinking as dramatically optimistic and it takes me back to one of my observations about people buying. In almost all cases it seems people take the best case scenario or close to it, to make their long term decisions where DVC is concerned (likely most areas of life). There are simply way to many variables and risks both on the personal side and on the timeshare side to buy DVC to save a little or just to "be part of the club".
 
Thanks for all the insight and suggestions. I think I will try to rent points at one of the resorts and then make the decision if it is something we want to invest in. It is nice to stay on property for the convenience of the transportation as well as the extra hours. I have rented timeshares in the past off property, and they were not in good shape, so I was thinking that the DVC timeshares would be better cared for.
 
That's an assumption that I'm not willing to accept personally and one that I see just as unlikely to be true as it is likely. It's entirely possible that dues will go up or the economy will change or even Disney will change to the degree that one may not be able to give them away at some point and as early as 10-15 years. The idea that a 2042 resort will be worth half (adjusted for inflation) what it is today in 14 years is something I would be willing to bet is not going to be the case. I see that line of thinking as dramatically optimistic and it takes me back to one of my observations about people buying. In almost all cases it seems people take the best case scenario or close to it, to make their long term decisions where DVC is concerned (likely most areas of life). There are simply way to many variables and risks both on the personal side and on the timeshare side to buy DVC to save a little or just to "be part of the club".

Right, that's why it is a median estimate. As likely to occur as not to.

I hardly think 50% depreciation over 50% of the time is "best case scenario" (particularly when buying a resale). Estimating depreciation on a timeshare is nothing new, and has proven to be somewhat accurate for ages. The only thing that is certain is that over 100% of time, it will depreciate 100%. Anything in the middle is an educated guess.
 
We purchased DVC in 2000 during construction of BCV at the age 61. We had been visiting Disney for a number of years, staying mostly at Dixie Landing, now known as Riverside. We have gone almost every year since we purchased with some or all of our kids and grand kids (which we have immensely enjoyed). Now with all the grand kids off to school and each one with a different school and work schedule it is harder getting everyone on the same page plus the fact grandma and I have slowed down somewhat. We drive to and from so we can bring “stuff” home, (and we have “stuff” after each stay of two to three weeks) and that drive is getting a little harder and longer. I have also noticed that the park benches around Disney are getting further apart…or perhaps I am looking for them more often. Still we are talking and planning out next trip to the Beach Club for another two to three week stay…we will see how it goes. It has been a great experience over the years and if we had purchased at a younger age we would have those additional memories.
 
Right, that's why it is a median estimate. As likely to occur as not to.

I hardly think 50% depreciation over 50% of the time is "best case scenario" (particularly when buying a resale). Estimating depreciation on a timeshare is nothing new, and has proven to be somewhat accurate for ages. The only thing that is certain is that over 100% of time, it will depreciate 100%. Anything in the middle is an educated guess.
But it's not a median estimate, it is best case scenario or close to it, everything else is on the negative side, it really can't work out much or any better long term. It very well may work out OK but there are a lot of areas of risk that could affect these assumptions and they are all to the negative. There really is very little that can happen that would make things work out better than this assumption hence the best case scenario. Many timeshares went from a modest value to you can't give them away or have to pay to do so a few years ago, to think that couldn't happen to DVC is being unrealistic. At the end of the day you're pinning your hopes on Disney, the local economy for Orlando and the national economy; any one of which could get you.
 



















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