Does anyone else feel like a criminal when going through TSA?

[DCLMP]

Here's a question I'll throw out there. Does anyone actually feel safer now with the TSA than they did flying pre 9/11?

No. I’ve never felt unsafe before or after.

These days I worry more about a brawl on the airplane. The you tube videos are entertaining though.

 

[fortwildernessishome]

I havent read the entire thread yet, but have to say such a Facinating thread with such a wide arrary of opinions!!

I have no problem with any of the TSA screening procedures. I say this as someone who flies on average 4 times a year and gets patted down pretty much every time through security. I have never encountered a rude TSA agent. Almost always a lady agent does the patting down. They always ask if there is any part of my body that is sore or causes pain when touched. I've been asked if I want to go to a private area. I don't.
We very often have someone in our family that needs to have their carry on luggage gone through by hand.
None of it bothers me at all.

 

[JLTraveling]

Naked Pictures and groping. Sounds very Alex Jones to me.

If anyone actually feels that the TSA is violating your rights you can hire a lawyer and bring a case that may eventually make it to the SCOTUS.



Oh my GAWD, the graphic nudity!!!

Clearly you don't know my post history, or you'd know that the times I've gotten points have been for being way too much of a flaming liberal, so yeah, Alex Jones? Not so much. As another poster pointed out, the backscatter machines that show EVERYTHING were standard until just a few years ago. And transgender people still have trouble today for having the "wrong" parts showing in the not so naked image. And there have been multiple cases of women being forced to SHOW their used menstrual pads after they showed up on the naked scan. But hey, say whatever you want about me, you're only making yourself look dumb.

 

[RamblingMad]

Get TSA Precheck or fly planes in South America.

 

[DCLMP]

Get TSA Precheck or fly planes in South America.

There are lots of credit cards out there will reimburse the fee. It doesn't excuse the TSA, but it makes it more tolerable.

 

[JLTraveling]

There are lots of credit cards out there will reimburse the fee. It doesn't excuse the TSA, but it makes it more tolerable.

Again, assuming you're ok with giving the TSA a deep dive into your entire life history.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Again, assuming you're ok with giving the TSA a deep dive into your entire life history.

If someone has an issue with it they won't be using their CC perk for it...

It's understood you personally do not feel comfortable doing so. The advice therefore isn't going to be applicable to you.

 

[soccerdad72]

Again, assuming you're ok with giving the TSA a deep dive into your entire life history.

My life history is pretty dull, so they can have at it.

 

[mrodgers]

Seriously? You think this can happen at Walmart? You really see no suspension of rights we would otherwise have literally anyplace else in the US?

There is no suspension of rights when you willingly choose to enter yourself into the situation.

By going through the process, you and the rest of the public that goes through it accepts it. I don't accept it, thus I've only ever flown once, before TSA (I think, or it was so lax because I was the only one in KPIT on 9/11/2002.)

It's similar to complaining about the price of an iPhone while standing in line holding out the credit card. Or paying $24 for a dozen wings and the changing of chickens having 4 wings now because society has accepted that half a wing equates to a whole wing, so you only get 6 actual wings in a dozen. Or complaining now about gas prices when you've lived through 2008, then went out and bought your huge 15 mpg SUV or truck when prices dropped lower than normal. Anyone complaining in these situations shouldn't complain because they accept said situation by making the choice to still engage in the situation.

 

[MillauFr]

Again, assuming you're ok with giving the TSA a deep dive into your entire life history.

I've always assumed they are already doing that.

 

[DCLMP]

Again, assuming you're ok with giving the TSA a deep dive into your entire life history.

I’ve under gone lots of background checks in my life including getting. a passport. I’m not ok with government over reach, but I do have to fly.
I’m not sure how deep a dive the TSA takes I got cleared in two days. I’ve had a background check for a job that took two months. That was invasive.

 

[JLTraveling]

There is no suspension of rights when you willingly choose to enter yourself into the situation.

By going through the process, you and the rest of the public that goes through it accepts it. I don't accept it, thus I've only ever flown once, before TSA (I think, or it was so lax because I was the only one in KPIT on 9/11/2002.)

It's similar to complaining about the price of an iPhone while standing in line holding out the credit card. Or paying $24 for a dozen wings and the changing of chickens having 4 wings now because society has accepted that half a wing equates to a whole wing, so you only get 6 actual wings in a dozen. Or complaining now about gas prices when you've lived through 2008, then went out and bought your huge 15 mpg SUV or truck when prices dropped lower than normal. Anyone complaining in these situations shouldn't complain because they accept said situation by making the choice to still engage in the situation.

The difference is that literally nobody HAS to have an iPhone or chicken wings or an SUV. Commercial air flight is sometimes unavoidable (yes, you could choose to get fired or not rush to your dying mother's bedside, but choices like that aren't really choices, are they?) Pre-TSA, people in those situations could choose to go to a different airport if they didn't like the security contractor in one. Now, they're literally stuck.

 

[RedAngie]

I don’t mind if someone tracks what I check out if the library. In fact, I hope someone DOES.

 

[White Cat]

Only on the dis could something so simple as going through TSA turn into such a big deal. If it causes so much anxiety just don’t fly or go to mental health counseling.

 

[Dan Murphy]

Only on the dis could something so simple as going through TSA turn into such a big deal. If it causes so much anxiety just don’t fly or go to mental health counseling.

We're only up to 11 pages, WC. Give it time to percolate a bit.

 

[jdb in AZ]

I don't feel like a criminal, but have felt violated after being "groped" above and below the waist. We now have TSA pre-check and it's made a big difference.

 

[Dan Murphy]

I don't feel like a criminal, but have felt violated after being "groped" above and below the waist. We now have TSA pre-check and it's made a big difference.

Do the parentheses around "groped" mean not actually or really groped?

 

[xipotec]

I just wish I could figure out why the “sniffer” always thinks I smell like a bomb……

 

[jdb in AZ]

Do the parentheses around "groped" mean not actually or really groped?

It means I wear an underwire bra, and a TSA agent had to check to make sure it was really a bra that set off the metal detector instead of an explosive device. This happened twice in one day between international flights.

Below the waist included inside the waistband, and going up one inner thigh to my privates, and down the other inner thigh. So yeah, I call that getting groped.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It means I wear an underwire bra, and a TSA agent had to check to make sure it was really a bra that set off the metal detector instead of an explosive device. This happened twice in one day between international flights.

Below the waist included inside the waistband, and going up one inner thigh to my privates, and down the other inner thigh. So yeah, I call that getting groped.

It happens with me every now and then with my bras. They just pat the backside of it. I believe my current bras are because they are more backsmoothing ones that have more fabric and thus create a different shape although it's still clear it's a bra. The underwire part has zero to do with setting it off so just wearing one won't do that.

The one and only time I have had any sort of touch around my waistband was the one and only time I wore a belt (which was allowed at my airport) years back. After that I just took off my belt even though I technically didn't have to. These days I wear leggings or jeggings so no belt.

Is there something you wore previously that may have set it off?