Does anyone actually LIKE fastpass +

I love love love the new fastpass plus.

-No more running ahead with all the tickets to try and get a toy story mania FP.
-No more holding said fastpasses and tickets and risk losing them
-No more hoping to get a good time while running there.
-less people taking advantage of the prior systems rules and pulling 6+ passes per day (notice I'm not saying this is wrong, I just don't like it).

It's just a nicer overall experience for us. Made our last trip all the more relaxing. We were actually able to enjoy meandering around more than we ever had before.
 
We were actually able to enjoy meandering around more than we ever had before.

WHAM! Here it is in a nutshell. On the positive side, one will say the above. On the negative side, one might say:
We were actually forced to meander around more than we ever had to before.
Neither side is right or wrong.
 
WHAM! Here it is in a nutshell. On the positive side, one will say the above. On the negative side, one might say:

Neither side is right or wrong.

hah you're right!

I guess it's the difference between someone like me who can ride something once and be happy versus people who want to ride certain things multiple times in a row or very close together.

I'm in the crowd that enjoys the atmosphere of the park in addition to the rides, not just the rides themselves.
 
Yes I do like it. Just got back from my second (FP+) vacation.

There are parts that I am not in love with, but I like making my reservations early. I have changed things days later, a week before the trip, the night before and Wed I decided to change my epcot night to an epcot morning and changed my FP's including soarin on the bus between AK and Epcot. (parks were busy, like purple/green/gold packed with LA folks, teen groups from WWoS, and senior trips plus Brazil was in the house).

No problem. Does it always work on the fly? Nope, but then again, how many times was I in the parks using legacy FP only to find that the window was 8 hours away or that they were already out for the day cause I didn't get there in the first two hours. Lots, that's how often. At least this way I can get 3 at once and if I can't change them no biggie.

I do think tiering is kind of dopey and honestly it's killing the SR line at RnR and TT. And 4 or 5 is probably more realistic at MK for most people. However I doubt we have seen the final version. As it stands I can live with the things I don't like to get the parts I really like.

I used wifi in October but my phones software for wifi died about a month ago. I ran entirely off my data plan this trip.
The only constant is change.
 

I tried in Dec and was at Pop with MB/FP+ only. I liked FP+ for arrival day and I did think it was pretty neat to walk into HS and and ride TSM at 4pm with no wait. However, all that being said I don't think positives outweigh the negative. I only get to WDW every couple years so one ride on my faves (with little wait) isn't enough for me.
 
I liked it when I was able to use it back on our trip back in November. Mind you things have changed since then. But the ability to hit a few things that weren't on the old FP system and not covered under my DAS card that I have was a definite plus for me. I still had a couple of issues with it but it mainly dealt with my Magic Band changing in booking. But for the most part I actually enjoyed it. So yeah not perfect but definitely didn't hate it like others on here. And looking forward to using it again this coming November hopefully.
 
apparently, a bird brain invented it.

so if you like it. sorry. a bird brain invented it.
 
We thought it worked fine. We were there for 8 days, had FP+ each day, and 0 problems. I switched them around quite a bit and had no problems getting FP's at the last minute or the night before, except for Enchanted Tales.

Our only issue was the tiering and the 3 FP+ limit, but that wasn't a big obstacle. I think once the confusion dies down and people get used to it many going to prefer it to racing around gathering FP's and trying to figure out if the time works for us.
 
From the threads I've read, most people who have used it liked it. Most people who have not used it don't like it.

I've used it and don't like it. Even the limited exception I note above doesn't make up for all the other ways it makes our family's experience a lesser one. I just don't feel the need to jump into every FP+ thread and express that sentiment.
 
Well, we just returned from our 11 night trip. Third trip, first time using Magic Bands and Fastpass+. I fully expected to HATE the new system. I did my best to keep an open mind going into it.

While I can't say that I'm in love with the new system, there were several advantages over the old system.

1) On several occasions, we had a Fastpass reserved for something we thought would be an extremely long wait. When we arrived at 2PM to use our Expedition Everest Fastpass, we found the wait to be only 15 minutes. Rather than waste the Fastpass, we changed it to something else. We did the same thing with Dumbo, which was a walk-on, and switched it for Peter Pan.

2) On two mornings, we didn't get through the turnstyles at Hollywood Studios until well after 9, because it seemingly takes an eternity to get through the line with the new scanners. I was less stressed knowing that my TSMM Fastpass was safe and secure for later in the afternoon. For those that go in peak times, unless they arrive at rope drop every day, they may not be able to get a Fastpass for certain attractions, Fastpass+ allows them that opportunity.

3) On a different day at Animal Kingdom, Expedition Everest (which we had already ridden several times that day) was down during our FP window. Without having to do anything, our Fastpass+ reservation was updated so that we could use it on any ride, at any time, for the rest of the day. We used it on the safari, which we had already used a Fastpass on earlier in the day. To my knowledge, if a ride was down during your Fastpass- window, they would honor your Fastpass for a later time that day, but you couldn't go and use it for something else. I found this to be a nice alternative.

Now, the not so good stuff...

1) Tiering! In Epcot, The only two rides I would want to use a Fastpass on were Test Track and Soarin. So we had to pick our favorite that day. Same for Hollywood Studios. Thankfully Tower of Terror is still a Tier 2 attraction, if they every move it to tier 1, I will lose my marbles.

2) Any Fastpass+ for a show! On our second to last night, we were wandering around the World Showcase wondering WHERE all of the people were for Illuminations. There were many, many wonderful spots available 10 minutes before show time. We didn't plan to stay for it, so on our exit, we found all the people, crammed into the Fastpass area like sardines. I felt a little guilty not informing them that there were dozens of less crowded spaces!

We also had a Fastpass for Nemo, and ALL of the standby line was in the building before we had moved more than one or two spots in the Fastpass line. The delay was of course, caused by the scanners. Not sure if you have to wait and scan at every show, but if you do, it sounds like a huge waste of a Fastpass, as the Standby line just goes right in. So we ended up just using the standby line and switching that Fastpass to something else, which is what the cast members were trying to convince everyone else to do.
 
I used it in November, loved it.

The main reason was being able to pick anytime of the day. You could fit in the times based on your plans, not having to see what the return time was that was being distributed when you were at the ride. Plus you don't have to go to the ride to get it. You can change it on the fly (I had no trouble doing this).

I know availability will be harder to get when everyone is on it. Hopefully they will work out the technical glitches. Plus there are rumors that they will allow you to pick more "day of" and in another park.
 
Yes, my family prefers FP+ to the 'old' FP- system.

Having the ability to schedule attractions instead of having to gather hard-ticket FP- is, for my family, a change for the better.

Knowing that we are going to ride Toy Story Mania at, let's say 2pm by our choice, is far better than arriving at 9am to get a FP- with an undetermined return time.

Do I want 'tiering' to go away - YES!

Do I think Park Hopping should be allowed - YES!

Having said that, the My Disney Experience (MDE) interface that allows people to schedule FP+ is atrocious. The very idea that the system remains 'glitchy' while Disney rolls out availability to even more guests is just plain old dumb.

However, according to a Cast Member I spoke with today, Disney is receiving fewer complaints each day for MDE.....until they roll it out to the next group....like Annual Pass Holders.
 
This exemplifies my problem with the system. FP- was equal for all guests. FP+ is not. It is difficult for me to warm up to a system that charges people the same amount of money yet provides them entirely different experiences. If and when they get back to equality, I will have a more positive outlook.

Also, look at how many positive replies mention or end by saying: "But I'd like to see the limit of 3 raised and no tiering." Interesting.
Q: What do you call FP+ with more FPs and no tiering?
A: FP-


I don't mind the concept, and don't mind the technology though it is clearly not ready for prime time. But what I do not like are the unintended consequences which should have been anticipated by experienced people. Those include the greater need for early park arrival (as opposed to more relaxed arrival times which I think is what they were shooting for); longer Standby lines caused by adding many more FP eligible rides; and the horrid FP+ return lines that are 15+ minutes long and form outside of the attraction queue areas spilling into the park. This last problem is fixable. The second problem is fixable if they eliminate FP eligibility on rides that don't need it. The first problem will remain as long as tiers remain. Want to ride Soarin' and Test Track on the same day without a huge wait? Better arrive at RD. This seems to defeat one of the main purposes of FP+.


People who stay on-site are paying a premium. For some time, Disney has provided a perk of Extra Magic Hours to these guests. FP+ reservation system is yet another perk being offered to guests staying on-site.....similar to Universal. Moreover, even as a family who frequently stays at Swan & Dolphin (technically, off-site for FP+ reservation purposes), I am all for FP+ only being available to on-site guests.

Tiering and FP+ limits are two separate problems.

Tiering stops first-comers from grabbing all of the FP+ for E-ticket attractions in Parks with few attractions. My opinion is that this is only a problem during peak crowd periods. I'll guess that at some point in the future, Tiering will only happen on peak crowd days - like Disney raising menu prices or 'blackout' for some Tables in Wonderland restaurants for a select few days. Tiering mitigates the problem you mentioned of long stand-by lines for attractions most in demand.

FP+ limitations - until Disney decides who will be able to receive FP+, limiting to 3/day is reasonable. However, once the Parks are open and a family has used all 3 FP+, then I believe these same people should be able to get additional FP+ if available. Plainly and simply, Disney prefers that potential FP+ go unused instead of allowing late-comers to use them. This will likely change. FP+ will also mitigate the problem you mentioned of long stand-by lines, despite anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

One other issue is the inability to not Park Hop with FP+. Once Disney sees a decline in Park Hopping purchases, then this policy will get changed. But in my opinion, this policy has more to do with the on-line 'glitches' than it does with a policy preference. In other words, once Disney can get MDE to actually work, then I suspect that Park Hopping with FP+ will become available.

Lastly, and by no means am I defending Disney, all new technology comes with glitches. However, Disney has had more than their fair share. It has been deplorable. I only wish Disney could have had a better plan to test what is apparently more IT than Disney is able to handle. Too many people, myself included, have spent too much time on-line making FP+ plans that we might have preferred actually waiting stand-by for an attraction. According to a Cast Member I spoke with today, there are fewer problems each day.:crowded:

In the end, FP+ allows more people access to FP. The more people who can access FP, the more there are happy guests at Disney. Obviously, this is a 'win' for Disney. But for many people, like my family, FP+ makes the Disney experience better, and is a win for these people too. The people who 'lost' from the changes are: 1.) the commando's who arrived early and received more than their fair share of FP's, 2.) people who find planning to be a burden. I have no sympathy for the first group, and the second group is no different than those who still complain about FP in general.
 
People who stay on-site are paying a premium.

They are paying a premium for EMHs, Magical Express, and Disney transportation. They did not pay a premium for FP-. Since FP+ provides an oppotunity to obtain fewer FPs per day, it is hard to say that this is a value added feature to staying on site. And Disney has maintained that it is not an on site only perk. That just seems to be wishful thinking by people here. Yet, after saying that this is not an on site only perk, they made it heavily tilted that way for the first 2 or 3 months. It appears that they are figuring this out.

And yes, I understand the need for limits and tiering. I just find it very ironic that there are so many responses that say: "I love FP+. But I would love it better if I could hop, have more than 3 and no tiers." That sounds a lot like: "I love FP+. But I liked the features of FP- more." No?
 
I like it so far. I think there are some downsides like not being able to book in two parks, but overall it works for the way we tour. I was never in love with the last system as we missed out more than a few times on popular rides from FP running out.
 
And yes, I understand the need for limits and tiering. I just find it very ironic that there are so many responses that say: "I love FP+. But I would love it better if I could hop, have more than 3 and no tiers." That sounds a lot like: "I love FP+. But I liked the features of FP- more." No?

Not necessarily. There were features of both that I liked but FP+ for our family does work out better. You couldn't adjust your time with the old system. They ran out before we could get them for rides like Soarin, TT and TSM so we missed those some trips. You couldn't swap your FP for a different attraction. And I hated the running around to get them. Or getting to a ride and finding the return time wouldn't work for what we had planned that day.

Sure the no tiering and ability to get more FP is ideal but there were more negative than positive features to the old system for us.
 
We used in October and loved it! We had an issue with one opening our door, but just used my DH's for that since we were all together anyway.
 
We were there in Feb and really liked it. We are a rope drop family, so we rode tons of rides in the morning (headliners many times in a row) then left the park after it got crowded (lunch time). All of our FP+ were for the afternoon/evening in our second park. Worked great! With FP- it was always a little difficult to hop because we couldn't get FP with mid-afternoon return times because you would be gone, but by the time we got to the second park all of the FP were gone.

As an added bonus, with FP+ the Brazilian tour groups couldn't hog all the FP :)
 


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