Do you wish there was an adult's only restaurant at DW?

[Tricia1972]

BTW how do you think the press wil react? DISNEY BANS CHILDREN FROM HIS RESTAURANTS!!!!!

That would cause a much different reaction that the headline...

"Disney World Opens XYZ, an Adult's Only Dining Experience

Mom and Dad, leave Jr at home and enjoy some adult time at the #1 vacation destination in the world. Experience Five Star cooking in a..."

I don't think anyone is suggesting that children are to be banned from all restaurants.

I think that Disney is many different things to many different groups of people. From newlyweds, to parents with young children, to parents with older children, to parents looking to get away for a weekend, to childless couples, to friends going away for the weekend, to empty nesters. Many people come to Disney for different reasons. I see no harm in Disney opening one (or two ) restaurants that'd appeal to the adults only crowd. The worst thing about such a restaurant would be for people trying to get a reservation there! OY!

I am not sure if we'd go there, but I have NO problem with it being there.

 

[sjaakie]

That would cause a much different reaction that the headline...

"Disney World Opens XYZ, an Adult's Only Dining Experience

Mom and Dad, leave Jr at home and enjoy some adult time at the #1 vacation destination in the world. Experience Five Star cooking in a..."

I don't think anyone is suggesting that children are to be banned from all restaurants.

I think that Disney is many different things to many different groups of people. From newlyweds, to parents with young children, to parents with older children, to parents looking to get away for a weekend, to childless couples, to friends going away for the weekend, to empty nesters. Many people come to Disney for different reasons. I see no harm in Disney opening one (or two ) restaurants that'd appeal to the adults only crowd. The worst thing about such a restaurant would be for people trying to get a reservation there! OY!

I am not sure if we'd go there, but I have NO problem with it being there.

I’m sure the press would present it in the most horrible way and children will be crying on Dr. Phill`s lap on television

I`m NOT against such a restaurant and my child has grown up but in my opinion there`s little chance that Disney will touch such a "hot item".

 

[Tricia1972]

I’m sure the press would present it in the most horrible way and children will be crying on Dr. Phill`s lap on television

I`m NOT against such a restaurant and my child has grown up but in my opinion there`s little chance that Disney will touch such a "hot item".

My point is Disney already went there with Palo, without a ruffle in the press.

I highly doubt Dr Phil would take it. He's too busy dealing with my sister slept with my husband issues.

You may be right, Disney may not do it at WDW, but it may be for different reasons than what you're thinking.

 

[TDC Nala]

BTW how do you think the press wil react? DISNEY BANS CHILDREN FROM HIS RESTAURANTS!!!!!

I would think instituting ONE adult only restaurant (and they already have Victoria & Alberts, which, while not banning children, is priced way out of the range of most families with young kids) wouldn't result in this headline.

You'd think there would be a headline reading "DISNEY PRICES BAN AVERAGE FAMILIES FROM FOUR-STAR RESTAURANT"

Why do they even HAVE a four-star restaurant? Isn't Disney just for families with children?

 

[Mermaid_Ariel]

Do what we do when we want a dinner without the kids. We drop them off at the Poly pool with their mugs from last trip to swim and remind them to grab chairs on the beach for the fireworks before the Poly guests get them all.

This is probably the wittiest summation I've ever seen of the drama on these boards.

 

[PlutoLuvr]

I'd love an adults-only restaurant.

Families come in all shapes and sizes. Not all have little kids in them.

 

[gina2000]

Rather than see an adult only restaurant, I'd want to see CMs quietly escort families with misbehaving children out the door of any table service restaurant. Misbehaving includes throwing food, crawling around on the floor, screaming at the top of one's lungs for more than a minute or behaving in a manner than is inconsistant and inappropriate for a table service venue.

We used to get up and walk our child outside of a restaurant if he was anxious, upset or squirmy. We didn't order appetizers, drinks prior to the meal or dessert. This way we knew that he should be able to sit for a time similar to a family meal at home. If he wasn't, we took him outside in shifts. That's responsible parenting in a public venue.

 

[Nancyg56]

Rather than see an adult only restaurant, I'd want to see CMs quietly escort families with misbehaving children out the door of any table service restaurant. Misbehaving includes throwing food, crawling around on the floor, screaming at the top of one's lungs for more than a minute or behaving in a manner than is inconsistant and inappropriate for a table service venue.

It really is not all about misbehaving children. There is something different about dining in a room where there are no children. As I said before, I have no issues with kids, but there are people who either are with children all day, work with children all day, do not have children and would like to dine without other peoples children or have kids of their own and would love one meal without their own kids or anyone else's kids around for the meal.


Disney has a lot of dining experiences, most are family friendly, some are fine dining establishments that welcome children, one is a fine dining establishment that does not encourage children but does allow them, and some are geared more towards children than to adults. With so many options available one or tow restaurants that are designed for an adult only clientèle should not bother anyone.

 

[TANYABETH]

Lets suppose Disney opens an adult restaurant .

Which group will come with there next wishes? A child free park once a month, a special day just for the elderly, maybe a pet day when pets are allowed in the park, an resort just for adults. The wish list will grow and grow .

I just don’t think that Disney will ore can make exceptions for different kind of groups.

Sounds good to me. I'd love to spend the day in the park with my two dogs and husband! Would there be limits as to which rides my dogs could go on though? While on the subject of wishes, how about banning those darn scooters that hold me up from getting on the bus. Hey, I can see if you've got a broken leg, 80 years old or have some other major health issue, but lets it we all see people on them or are just plain lazy. I've seen whole families on them and doubt highly that all four of them have health issues that would cause them to be on a scooter.

And for a second wish, maybe they should offer baby carriages with horns and flashing lights because I am sick of getting my feet run over by parents on a mission to get to character signings.

 

[KirklandTutu]

As I was out dining last night in a wine cafe with nary a child in sight and surrounded by 30 and 40 somethings...I had to think about this thread. Wether everyone likes the idea or not, I would be willing to bet good money on the following. Were WDW to ever open an adults only sit down dining experience, I am willing to bet that within a year, the same rules that apply to CRT would apply to the new place as far getting your ADRs goes. 180 days out, 7am, or sorry, too late.

 

[sjaakie]

Sounds good to me. I'd love to spend the day in the park with my two dogs and husband! Would there be limits as to which rides my dogs could go on though?

O my God my dog has asked me if we could not buy a little cap for him, put him in a stroller and just say to everyone that he's an ugly baby.

He likes WDW to.
Yeah I know I’m crazy and talk with my dog.

 

[bdcp]

One restaurant out of dozens shouldn't be an issue. This is not about liking or not liking kids or discrimminating against anyone, but wanting a quiet, upscale dining experience like a lot of restaurants used to be like before two income families with children starting taking their children everywhere they went. I adore my children and when they were children, we didnt' take them every single place we went. Too many parents are feeling so much guilt that they don't want to deprive their children of anything even if the kids can't handle it. I guess because I was home with my boys until they were almost grown, I have no guilt.

On our last cruise, at lunch there was a family with a two year old who definitely didnt' want to be in the dining room, but mom and dad did so this child cried and carried on until someone said something. That was all about mom and dad and their "right to be there". They forgot that everyone else had a right to eat with a little less screaming going on. It's selfish behavior by some parents that cause threads like this to be started.

Sorry, the dog issue isn't even relevant. I've had dogs and I've had kids and it's not the same thing.

 

[erikthewise]

Do I wish there was one? No.
Would I mind if there was? No.
While you're waiting, Shula's (Dolphin), Bistro de Paris (Epcot), and Victoria & Albert's (Grand Floridian) are the next best thing.

 

[sjaakie]

. Too many parents are feeling so much guilt that they don't want to deprive their children of anything even if the kids can't handle it. I guess because I was home with my boys until they were almost grown, I have no guilt.

We took our son out with us to dine when he was two years old.
He never screamed,run about,cried,made a fuss ore whatever.
He loved every dinner and we took him through half of Europe.

I don’t see why my child should ore we should have been punisht for the behaviour of other kids.
And I was also a home mother with cookies and thee waiting after school and I neither have any guild feelings but there was also never even a moment we thougt of going to any dinner without him.

The bad behaviour of other children is not my concern neither is the behaviour of other parents.

Besides if there was an adult restaurant from witch age does the restriction ends? 12 year,16 year ore maybe 21 years? What about shouting and drunk adults?

And what about parents with an adult handicapped child witch screams, drools al over the table is loud and the parents can’t control this?
Also no entrance fore them?

 

[bdcp]

We took our son out with us to dine when he was two years old.
He never screamed,run about,cried,made a fuss ore whatever.
He loved every dinner and we took him through half of Europe.

I don’t see why my child should ore we should have been punisht for the behaviour of other kids.
And I was also a home mother with cookies and thee waiting after school and I neither have any guild feelings but there was also never even a moment we thougt of going to any dinner without him.

The bad behaviour of other children is not my concern neither is the behaviour of other parents.

Besides if there was an adult restaurant from witch age does the restriction ends? 12 year,16 year ore maybe 21 years?

And what about parents with an adult handicapped child witch screams, spits is loud and the parents can’t control this?
Also no entrance fore them?

This is not about punishment. It's about adults wanting ONE restaurant they can go to without any children. ONE, not all, just ONE! I adored my children, took them to a lot of places, taught them manners and they are now wonderful adults, but there are times and places for that. We took them to dine, too, just not in places that I felt were adult restaurants. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to dine without children. Nothing! So,your child is perfect. Yeah for you. No normal two year old sits quietly still through a meal every time. It just doesnt' happen. The expectation that children's rights usurps everyone else's is why we have so many self-involved people today. I see it in driving, rude behavior in movies, restaurants, schools, etc. My niece is autistic and yes, she would get nothing out of being in an upscale restaurant, so I would say, find something appropriate for her. Children do not have the capacity to enjoy or endure an involved sit down meal. That is behavior learned though maturity.

Now, really, how often do you see shouting, drunk adults? I have never seen that in a restaurant. Isn't that a little over the top?

Re read this thread. The vast majority do want ONE adults only restaurant. I do realize that if that happened people would complain just because, not because they really planned to take their children there, but just to make some kind of point.

 

[donaldsgal]

Just curious, but most of you who have said you don't want one have followed up by saying all the reasons you wouldn't want to go there. So then why would you care if there is one? If you're never going to go to it and it's not something you'd be interested in, why begrudge others who might be interested?

I can't stand McDonald's and I would never eat at the one at Downtown Disney, but I certainly don't care that it's there. I just walk on past and don't give it a second thought.

As a few people have pointed out, families come in all shapes and sizes and not all include children, either by chance or by design. So the excuse "Disney is for families" doesn't cut it. Besides, as Walt himself said, Disney is for EVERYONE.

I think this is an excellent point that is well-stated. I also find it strange that people who would not want to eat at an adults-only restaurant would be opposed to having one at Disney.

We are one of those different family compilations. I travel with my older sister (34) and niece (2 in two weeks). Often our mom goes along these days to help out with my niece since we (more often me ) like to enjoy some time without her. We also value having nice dining experiences. Before my niece came into our lives through adoption, I was one of those people who have a low tolerance for screaming, fussy, or badly-behaved children in restaurants (or during shows/attractions). For the record, I'm STILL one of those people! I'm a mental health counselor and I work with these types of kids all day long, so on my off time, I want to be as relaxed as possible. Anyways, when my niece, who is strong-willed, starts to fuss during dinner, I give her about 10 seconds to pull it together before I insist she be taken out. I don't want other diners looking at us in irritation, and I don't want to listen to her wail either.

However, just because my niece is with us, I don't want to sacrifice dining at our favorite places - including signature restaurants. This is a large part of our enjoyment at Disney. We don't WANT to eat exclusively at Hollywood & Vine, Chef Mickey's, or Garden Grill. We want the comfort and luxury of the finer establishments. That being said, though, we make our reservations at 180 days out, so we always get the earliest dinner time possible. We do this so that we can enjoy signature restaurants at opening time and, hopefully, accomplish 3 things: 1) eat at a time when my niece is better behaved after coming off of a 2-4 hour rest period back in the room; 2) have less impact on more serious diners who want to have more than just a meal but rather have an experience (as I'm one of those people too); and 3) enjoy the meal ourselves!

We have two upscale dining experiences coming up in March at California Grill and Yachtsman. We are not taking Hannah to CG - my mom and she will have a night off in the room. We are all going to YSH at 5:30. Part of this is because our CG meal last time - adults only - lasted about 2.5 hours. Our YSH meal - adults only - lasted 1.5 hours, and we believe she can handle that with appropriate behavior.

I'd also like to commend the wait staff who never make any diner feel unwelcome, whether they have kids with them or not. Adults only restaurants are fine with me - I'd like to go as long as someone we know was with us to watch my niece.

 

[sjaakie]

Nothing! So,your child is perfect. Yeah for you. No normal two year old sits quietly still through a meal every time. It just doesnt' happen.

You can't judge a child you never saw and my child is surely not perfect but in company ore in places outside our house we though him manners from day one.
And yes even with two years old his behaviour was so that we never had to leave a restaurant ore call him to order.

Those children also exist in spite off the spoiled ones ore children with a little problem.

 

[Tricia1972]

This is not about punishment. It's about adults wanting ONE restaurant they can go to without any children. ONE, not all, just ONE! I adored my children, took them to a lot of places, taught them manners and they are now wonderful adults, but there are times and places for that. We took them to dine, too, just not in places that I felt were adult restaurants. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to dine without children. Nothing! So,your child is perfect. Yeah for you. No normal two year old sits quietly still through a meal every time. It just doesnt' happen. The expectation that children's rights usurps everyone else's is why we have so many self-involved people today. I see it in driving, rude behavior in movies, restaurants, schools, etc. My niece is autistic and yes, she would get nothing out of being in an upscale restaurant, so I would say, find something appropriate for her. Children do not have the capacity to enjoy or endure an involved sit down meal. That is behavior learned though maturity.

Now, really, how often do you see shouting, drunk adults? I have never seen that in a restaurant. Isn't that a little over the top?

Re read this thread. The vast majority do want ONE adults only restaurant. I do realize that if that happened people would complain just because, not because they really planned to take their children there, but just to make some kind of point.

Well said.

 

[Colleen27]

One restaurant out of dozens shouldn't be an issue. This is not about liking or not liking kids or discrimminating against anyone, but wanting a quiet, upscale dining experience like a lot of restaurants used to be like before two income families with children starting taking their children everywhere they went. I adore my children and when they were children, we didnt' take them every single place we went. Too many parents are feeling so much guilt that they don't want to deprive their children of anything even if the kids can't handle it. I guess because I was home with my boys until they were almost grown, I have no guilt.

I don't think guilt is the only, or even the most common, motivator. Families now tend to include children in more of life just as a matter of course, and I think that in general that's a good thing.

We are a two income family, but we're both home with the kids most of the time and they've never been in daycare (we're both self-employed with home offices). But we do take them out to the places we enjoy, because we don't think that things like good food and entertainment have a minimum age. It isn't about not wanting to deprive them of anything - it is about wanting to raise them to enjoy the same things we enjoy.

Too many kids of my generation grew up on a steady diet of kids' meals and bland American food, going to movies but never the theatre, pop concerts but never the symphony. That isn't how we want to raise our children, and that's why we started exposing them to nicer experiences from a fairly young age. And because they're used to it at home, they're perfectly able to enjoy (and behave through) a meal at California Grill or Narcoosees when we're on vacation.

 

[bdcp]

Okay People. We're talking about one restaurant here. Not every restaurant. Why is that such an issue? My children were always well behaved too and we only took them out of maybe one restaurant when they were growing up, but we never took them anywhere they weren't ready for. Small children cannot sit quietly for 2 hours in a restaurant. No matter how you teach or raise them. It's neuorologically impossible. It's a maturity factor, not a parenting factor at age 2. There are plenty of parents who don't care how their kids act and those families are the reasons threads like this get started. They demand their "rights" even if it impedes on the rights of others.

BTW, I was raised on that "bland" american diet, went to movies but not pop concerts because my parents wouldn't let us, but guess what? We grew up and started doing those things you consider, what? cultured? when we were mature enough to appreciate them and it didnt' ruin us to not have done them when we were 5. And, just because you enjoy them doesn't mean your children do. You do know that right? That also isn't the point of this thread.