Do you think this is what is confussing CM and Guests?

[Delaware Mike]

I Agree completely - that doesn't mean Disney will though.

The only way to resasonably affect change is to make opinions known to Disney management. If enough folks express themselves to Disney, in an effort to affect positive change, they may possibly listen.

...hey, it always works concerning Disney transporation.

 

[bicker]

well, which one is it, bicker, go by what is written in the brochure, or the brochure is irrelevant?

Your quoting above is wrong. I never wrote "It doesn't matter what the brochure says" -- YOU did. And I replied, "It actually is what the brochure says. I believe I've mentioned that already."

quite the paradox, don't you think?

Not at all. There is no paradox. What the brochure explicitly promises is provided. Anything the brochure doesn't explicitly promise is up to the restaurant. No quandary at all.

Why make this so complicated?

 

[minnie61650]

I apologize, Linda, however "non-transferrable" means the product/service cannot be used by anyone except by whom it was purchased.

IMHO, and please, I mean no disrespect to Linda or anyone else as I value all opinions posted here, however the confusion in this part of the plan which I take the greatest umbrage. I purchased the DDP, which provides "x" snack credits, "y" counter-service meals, and "z" table service meals. Let's say, for example, I'm and adult staying 8 nights with the DDP, staying alone at a WDW resort and let's limit our discussion to only TS meals. Under the plan, I have credits representing 8 TS meals. If I happen to meet someone while walking through The World Showcase in EPCOT, and invite her to dinner at Le Cellier, I should be able to use one of my 8 TS credits for my meal, and one for my guest. It makes no difference who eats the other adult meal, as I'm still using 2 credits. I'll be leaving the table with 6 credits remaining "in the bank". After doing this 4 times, I've used all 8 TS credits and I'm done with my TS credits. Hence, have I violated any rule? In my opinion, I think not.

The same applies for a family with pooled credits they have purchased...

The credits on the DDP represent a value, or money if you prefer. Just like money, once spent, it's gone. And since I purchased the value of those TS credits, as long as I stay within the rules, I should be able to use them anyway I wish... Hey, check the rules. Like Prego, "it's in there...."

In short, if I use the credits in the described manner, I'm not violating the rule. If I give the credits to someone else to use while I'm not present, then I'm violating the non-transferrable rule.

Thank you for allow me to express my opinion.

I Agree completely - that doesn't mean Disney will though.

I based my interpretation of the nontransferable clause on the way Disney handles their park tickets. Since Disney will not let guests share a ticket to treat someone else to a day at the park I thought they would handle the nontransferable DDP credits the same way.

My interpretation may be wrong.

In the end it will be Disney's interpretation and only Disney's interpretation that counts.

 

[Sammie]

I personally feel the answer to the problem of adults using child credits to purchase adult meals would be to issue family members on the dining plan an actual booklet that containes tear-out vouchers for each meal type and includes the name the reservation is under and an expiration date based on check-out. For example, the voucher would clearly identify that it is for a "Child" Counter Service meal, or an "Adult" Table Service meal. You order three adult entrees and one child entree at Pecos Bill's...great, just hand the CM at the register the corresponding vouchers and be on your merry way. The older kids want to go their separate way...fine, rip-out their meal vouchers and threaten them with a slow and painful death if they lose them (okay, maybe that's not the best example -- but you get the idea, right?).

Now the real question is: Is the problem really wide-spread enough to justify the expense of changing the system, or is this group of criminal masterminds on the DISboard such a small percentage of total visitors to WDW that we're having hundreds of debates about something that is really small potatoes to the Powers-That-Be?

It's enough of a problem to change it.

 

[Pedler]

Your quoting above is wrong. I never wrote "It doesn't matter what the brochure says" -- YOU did. And I replied, "It actually is what the brochure says. I believe I've mentioned that already."

Not at all. There is no paradox. What the brochure explicitly promises is provided. Anything the brochure doesn't explicitly promise is up to the restaurant. No quandary at all.

Why make this so complicated?

What makes it so complicated is that for some people they will look for any type of wording or lack of to try to manipulate things to their benefit regardless of the intent.

It reminds me of a funny skit that Saturday Night Live did years ago with Edie Murphy. He had found a genie or some magical being and was given 3 wishes. Of course he knew the problem with genies interpretation of simple wishes turning out wrong for the person doing the wishing so he hired a lawyer to write out his wishes. Each one was pages and pages long with every possible exception listed and handled. As they read through them the exceptions that were considered become increasingly absurd and the genie would make some exclimation as another loophole he could have used was closed.

Sometimes I get the feeling that there are people that would only be happy if Disney provided a 100+ page double sided document single spaced in 6 point type identifying every permutation and saying if it is or is not allowed for each item on the menu for each age classification. Of course then they would complain about having to read all the rules for the plan.

 

[Kaycee]

Bicker and Rantnnravin, please do not use this thread to hold a debate. If you would like to address issues to each other personally, please do so through the private message system. If you have something to share on this topic with others on the board, please post it here.

Thank you.

 

[bicker]

Sounds good to me.