Do you think suicide is a selfish act?

Do you think suicide is a selfish act?

  • yes

  • somewhat

  • no

  • other answer

  • I really have no idea


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At one point I would have said Yes immediately. But, not these days. I was reading in the newspaper just this morning that more military personnel died in the month of January from suicide than died in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. I could hardly call these suicides selfish acts. Can you? Sometimes people are pushed past the limits of what they can handle.
 
I used to think not, but then I changed my mind. A friend of mine was killed about a year ago, complete freak accident. But I saw the hurt and confusion it caused, it tore his family apart. I don't see how anyone could do that to the family they leave behind through a suicide act. I do think people who are suicidal need help, but to kill yourself and leave behind family and friends, and force them to grieve and have their lives turned upside down, yes, suicide is selfish. I have other thoughts on assisted suicide after a long, terminal illness.
 
Saying it's selfish is saying severe mental illness is selfish.

When someone is in such severe pain due to mental illness they can't take care of themselves never mind being able to see what there act would do to others.

Maybe it's selfish for those of us left behind to believe our loved ones wanted to cause us such (at times) unbearable pain & suffering...

When someone dies from heart disease & smoked we don't call that selfish, why do we call mental illness selfish?
 
Saying it's selfish is saying severe mental illness is selfish.

When someone is in such severe pain due to mental illness they can't take care of themselves never mind being able to see what there act would do to others.

Maybe it's selfish for those of us left behind to believe our loved ones wanted to cause us such (at times) unbearable pain & suffering...

When someone dies from heart disease & smoked we don't call that selfish, why do we call mental illness selfish?


I agree....100%
but again like I said before people are people and when someone dies at their own hand it is easier to blame rather than grieve ( be mad rather then admit the person is gone) for some and others just judge because they don't know about mental illness ( ie are ignorant) and others just judge to be nasty.

I am not the only one on this earth with a mental illness that makes people comit suicde every day. It is a real illness, you can DENY it EXCEPT it MAKE FUN of it or whatever. But it is real and it does make people do things like commit suicide without the right treatment. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. IT IS A HORRIBLE DISEASE that cant be explained by me right now very well. I am lucky to be alive myself.... not dramatic whatsoever... ohhhh wow... wish people could see into mental illness but most cant and so they they judge....
 

Saying it's selfish is saying severe mental illness is selfish.

When someone is in such severe pain due to mental illness they can't take care of themselves never mind being able to see what there act would do to others.

Maybe it's selfish for those of us left behind to believe our loved ones wanted to cause us such (at times) unbearable pain & suffering...

When someone dies from heart disease & smoked we don't call that selfish, why do we call mental illness selfish?
You'd be surprised how many people do call the smokers selfish and do NOT feel badly for them when they're ill.

In fact, the first question most people ask when finding out that someone has lung cancer is, "Did they smoke?" Or they'll mention that someone (Christopher Reeve's wife is a good example) has lung cancer and will add "...and she didn't smoke." They might as well say, "...and we should feel sorry for her."

I understand people's kids being pissed off about it. I had a patient who was dying from heart disease and her two grown girls were so pissed at her. "We even bought her exercise tapes she could do sitting down and she wouldn't!" the cried...literally cried. Their mom died and had long refused to help herself and they were pissed off with her for it because they loved her and were going to miss her and took it rather personally. I get that.

But to not feel sorry for people because they smoked or were fat...they're still sick. They still suffer. They still deserve a little sympathy.

But you'd be very surprised how many people just do not care. "Well, they chose it" is pretty much how many people feel.

Someone kills themself, I figure they had their reasons and don't need us dumping on them. I can totally see their family seeing it as selfish, but the rest of us (IMO) should figure that they had their reasons and leave it at that. None of our beezwax, anyway.

So long as they aren't preventing people who need help from getting to the hospital, that is. I feel terribly for people who get to the suicidal place...as long as they don't decide to take others down with them. I might feel for you, but you don't get to drag everyone else into it against their will and to their detriment.
 
I think it is NOT a selfish act. How could you be in your right mind and commit suicide? I believe the majority of people are suffering from mental illness at the time this act is committed and rationale is non existent.
 
I said "Yes" but when a person is in that deep of a depression- they don't see it that way- If they were rational they wouldn't be suicidal.
 
This topic gets me semi riled up. In the mind of the mentally ill, suicide sometimes seems like the only option. I do not think it's fair to blame them for their actions because obviously their coping skills are not normal. Plus, I find it a little backwards when people say those who commit suicide are selfish for what they do to you.
 
Saying it's selfish is saying severe mental illness is selfish.

When someone is in such severe pain due to mental illness they can't take care of themselves never mind being able to see what there act would do to others.

Maybe it's selfish for those of us left behind to believe our loved ones wanted to cause us such (at times) unbearable pain & suffering...

When someone dies from heart disease & smoked we don't call that selfish, why do we call mental illness selfish?

I agree with this; you stated this very well.
 
Sorry, long post! LOL! And, I just want to add, it is actually totally drama-free. Not a sob story, at all. I actually laugh and joke a lot about my experience, though it was not funny, at the time.

I used to think suicide was selfish until I walked in those shoes....

About 15 years ago, I went through a sudden emotional trauma, that sent me into a severe depression. The trigger, for me, may have had almost no effect on someone else. We're all wired differently. I wasn't eating or sleeping and I began seeing a therapist right away. I never consciously considered suicide.....

At the time, DH and I were planning a trip to the Grand Canyon, with some friends. One day, I was driving to the store and thinking about the trip. I thought about where we would stay and what we would do. I visualized us all standing on the rim of the canyon. Then, I saw myself stepping off the edge!! :scared:

For the next few days I could not get that image out of my head and could not think about going on the trip without seeing myself stepping off into the abyss. This is not something I had ever heard about suicidal people.....Once that switch had flipped in my brain, the thought of jumping into the canyon became like a compulsion! I did not want to kill myself, but I also did not trust myself not to! I had no control over it.

It scared me so much that I told DH what was going on, canceled the trip, and got myself to a Psychiatrist to be put on meds. Thankfully, it worked and I was only them a short time.

In my case, I had a history of anxiety and some mild depression, so had visited therapists on and off. I knew myself and my "emotional temperature" very well, so knew when I had crossed a serious line. I was fortunate to have a very supportive DH & Mom, who I could always be open and honest with, regarding what was going in my head, without fear of feeling misunderstood or stigmatized by seeking help. Not everyone has that.

If that switch in my brain had flipped, and: I had no experience with depression, never had the opportunity for introspection, did not have supportive people around me, did not have the means and resources (financial or otherwise) to get help, etc..., there is very little chance I would have survived the compulsion.

Imagine being in that situation with nowhere to turn. No, I don't think suicide is selfish, most of the time. We could argue that the circumstances of a suicide are selfish (ie., doing it where a loved one will find them). But, I believe that, by the time someone has been driven to that point, they are literally out of their mind.

Since I went through that, I have lost one terminally ill friend to sucide and my best friends, bi-polar DH hanged himself but lived. He has permanant brain damage. I can only have have compassion for them.

By the way, I'm fine now, and have been for years.:)
 


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