Do you think pot should be legalized?

[goofysk8]

Yeahh, I think that all those drugs should be illegal.
Exspecially Cigs. In my opinion, I find the sososo gross. Nasty.

 

[BabyPiglet]

I have to say though, that if they could make cigarettes illegal, I would be so happy.

My parents smoke and it used to not bother me at all, but now..ew. I can't even get close to a cigarette without having to cover my mouth. Thankfully, I just stay in my room and the air is nice and fresh.

 

[Fatphil32]

Pot does impair your judgment. That's why people shouldn't drive after using it.

Marijuana doesn't, which is what I'm talking about. People say pot and some assume they mean marijuana and others think they mean things that can make you hallucinate. Marijuana does not make your judgement impaired. I know plenty of people who have driven while smoking it and they're perfectly normal.

 

[chisnpeke]

Marijuana doesn't, which is what I'm talking about. People say pot and some assume they mean marijuana and others think they mean thinks that can make you hallucinate. Marijuana does not make your judgement impaired. I know plenty of people who have driven while smoking it and they're perfectly normal.

Isn't pot and marijuana the same thing? Weed, mary jane, pot...all nicknames for marijuana.

If you're high on it, it affects your judgment.

From this website: http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm


Effects of smoking are generally felt within a few minutes and peak in 10 to 30minutes. They include dry mouth and throat, increased heart rate, impaired coordination and balance, delayed reaction time, and diminished short-term memory. Moderate doses tend to induce a sense of well-being and a dreamy state of relaxation that encourages fantasies, renders some users highly suggestible, and distorts perception (making it dangerous to operate machinery, drive a car or boat, or ride a bicycle). Stronger doses prompt more intense and often disturbing reactions including paranoia and hallucinations.

From this one: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99/marijuana/Health_1.html

In the short term, marijuana use impairs perception, judgment, thinking, memory, and learning; memory defects may persist six weeks after last use.

 

[Sparx]

Marijuana doesn't, which is what I'm talking about. People say pot and some assume they mean marijuana and others think they mean thinks that can make you hallucinate. Marijuana does not make your judgement impaired. I know plenty of people who have driven while smoking it and they're perfectly normal.

marijuana is counted among the cause for 18% of vehicle related deaths.

your friends are endangering everyone else on the road.

now, i'm sure that because you've done these drugs or you're close to those that do you want to think that it doesn't impair your judgment, but they do. there's no way around it.

one in six (15%) teens reported driving under the influence of marijuana, a number nearly equivalent to those who reported driving under the influence of alcohol (16%). Research shows that smoking pot affects concentration, perception, coordination and reaction time, many of the skills required for safe driving – and these effects can last up to 24 hours. In 2001, an estimated 38,000 high school seniors in the U.S. crashed while driving under the influence of marijuana and 46,000 crashed after driving under the influence of alcohol.
(freevibe.com/drug_facts)

i think those numbers make it completely obvious that driving under the influence of marijuana and driving under the influence of alcohol are JUST as dangerous as each other, if marijuana isn't even more dangerous because you sober up faster when you're drunk.

 

[imabrat]

I thought:

pot = marijuana.
hallucinations = shrooms. (well, they make you hallucinate anyway)

want hallucinations? take ambien. holy crap.

 

[BabyPiglet]

Marijuana doesn't, which is what I'm talking about. People say pot and some assume they mean marijuana and others think they mean things that can make you hallucinate. Marijuana does not make your judgement impaired. I know plenty of people who have driven while smoking it and they're perfectly normal.

Yeah, and my dad says chain smoking cigarettes isn't affecting his health either.

 

[BabyPiglet]

I thought:

pot = marijuana.
hallucinations = shrooms. (well, they make you hallucinate anyway)

want hallucinations? take ambien. holy crap.

My aunt cleaned her kitchen asleep while on ambien. That stuff is dangerousss.

 

[Sparx]

Marijuana doesn't, which is what I'm talking about. People say pot and some assume they mean marijuana and others think they mean things that can make you hallucinate. Marijuana does not make your judgement impaired. I know plenty of people who have driven while smoking it and they're perfectly normal.

here. i'll even break it down for you. this is exactly what pot does to your brain.

prefrontal cortex:

this is the part that lets you understand consequences and make decisions.
when you start smoking pot, the bloodflow to your prefrontal cortex is shut down. basically your prefrontal cortex suffocates. this causes you to make poor decisions and not understand the consequences.

cerebral cortex:

the cerebral cortex is the wrinkled covering of the forbrain. it is responsible for (among other things) judgment control, fine motor skills, problem solving, and comprehension.
when you start smoking, distorts the routs that the cerebral cortex uses to send messages to the other parts of your brain. basically information gets sent to the worng places and not used. its like two parts of your brain are talking but can't hear each other. this also dulls your senses. like hearing or vision.

limbic system:

your limbic system is how your body talks to your brain. the amygdala controls your emotions. when you smoke pot, your amygdala gets swamped with information. this can cause emotional outbursts or bouts of depression. your hippocampus controls your memory. when the thc in the pot finds the limbic system, this is what makes you feel it. you can get addicted to pot. your hippocampus creates a vivid (albeit mostly fabricated) memory of how you feel when you're drugged, making you want to do it again.

hypothalamus:

your hypothalamus controls blood pressure, metabolism, sleep and wake circadian rhythms, and body temperature. pot raises your blood pressure, slows your metabolism, speeds up your apetite, and either crashes you or wires you. all of which have lasting effects. this is where the "munchies" come from.

cerebellum:

your cerebellum is what allows you to walk, stay balanced, and it also controls internal timing and reaction speeds. the thc in pot blocks the receptors to this part of the brain. that makes movements slow and difficult and causes bad balance. it also causes problems with how time is comprehended. an hour can feel like a few minutes or an hour can feel like a few days.


now i want you to tell me that pot doesn't affect your body.

 

[Fatphil32]

marijuana is counted among the cause for 18% of vehicle related deaths.

your friends are endangering everyone else on the road.

now, i'm sure that because you've done these drugs or you're close to those that do you want to think that it doesn't impair your judgment, but they do. there's no way around it.

one in six (15%) teens reported driving under the influence of marijuana, a number nearly equivalent to those who reported driving under the influence of alcohol (16%). Research shows that smoking pot affects concentration, perception, coordination and reaction time, many of the skills required for safe driving – and these effects can last up to 24 hours. In 2001, an estimated 38,000 high school seniors in the U.S. crashed while driving under the influence of marijuana and 46,000 crashed after driving under the influence of alcohol.
(freevibe.com/drug_facts)

i think those numbers make it completely obvious that driving under the influence of marijuana and driving under the influence of alcohol are JUST as dangerous as each other, if marijuana isn't even more dangerous because you sober up faster when you're drunk.

I guess I worded that wrong.. It's not the direct cause of deaths. Yes, people smoking marijuana can get in car accidents, but it's a lesser percentage of non-marijuana users.

(Marijuana users also have the same or lower incidence of murders and highway deaths and accidents than the general non-marijuana using population as a whole. Crancer Study, UCLA; U.S. Funded

Jack Herer

And I had to lol at the thought that marijuana does not sober up as fast as alcohol..

I thought:

pot = marijuana.
hallucinations = shrooms. (well, they make you hallucinate anyway)

want hallucinations? take ambien. holy crap.

Most people say pot as a general reference to any illegal things of the kind.

 

[Fatphil32]

Yeah, and my dad says chain smoking cigarettes isn't affecting his health either.

Where did I say it doesn't affect your health? Hmmm.. no where. It just doesn't impair your decision making skills or judgement.

Everyone here's taking my words out of context. Did I say it doesn't slow down your reaction times or hand-eye coordination? No. Everyone needs to read and comprehend sentences before responding.

 

[Sparx]

I guess I worded that wrong.. It's not the direct cause of deaths. Yes, people smoking marijuana can get in car accidents, but it's a lesser percentage of non-marijuana users.



Jack Herer

And I had to lol at the thought that marijuana does not sober up as fast as alcohol..



Most people say pot as a general reference to any illegal things of the kind.

i think i've proven with my previous post that you don't need to argue what your brain does and does not do with me... yes, the feel good affects of marijuana wear off faster than those of alcohol, but when your alcohol feel good affects go away, so does the alcohol. marijuana's thc stays attached and in the synaptic gaps in your brain for up to twenty four hours.

 

[Fatphil32]

now i want you to tell me that pot doesn't affect your body. [/B]

Hmm.. where did I say it didn't affect your body? Anywhere? Nope. I even said it was a relaxer, which obviously will slow your reaction time, hand-eye cordination, ect. Maybe try reading my post before responding. All I said was that it doesn't impair your decision making skills. I know plenty of people who have done it while driving, being at school, heck riding their bikes and they're just fine. It's not to the affect of alcohol like everyone makes it out to be, you don't get dizzy or anything.

 

[Fatphil32]

i think i've proven with my previous post that you don't need to argue what your brain does and does not do with me... yes, the feel good affects of marijuana wear off faster than those of alcohol, but when your alcohol feel good affects go away, so does the alcohol. marijuana's thc stays attached and in the synaptic gaps in your brain for up to twenty four hours.

All I did was prove that marijuana users have the same to lower rate of highway and general accidents than non-marijuana users. And you'd think for something that "impairs your judgment" they'd have higher automobile crash ratings and homicide rates.

And just because it's in your system doesn't mean it's affect is going on. Most of the effect happens for around an hour before it dies down. The only way to get those affects going again is to intake some more.

 

[BabyPiglet]

Where did I say it doesn't affect your health? Hmmm.. no where. It just doesn't impair your decision making skills or judgement.

Everyone here's taking my words out of context. Did I say it doesn't slow down your reaction times or hand-eye coordination? No. Everyone needs to read and comprehend sentences before responding.

That's not what I meant. I meant that people who do marijuana or are friends with people who do marijuana usually don't think it affects them. They're too close.

No, you said it doesn't impair peoples judgement. It clearly does. How am I taking that out of context?

And I read just fine, thanks.

 

[chisnpeke]

Where did I say it doesn't affect your health? Hmmm.. no where. It just doesn't impair your decision making skills or judgement.

Everyone here's taking my words out of context. Did I say it doesn't slow down your reaction times or hand-eye coordination? No. Everyone needs to read and comprehend sentences before responding.

Slowed reaction time and hand eye coordination are essential to driving. If it takes a longer time for you to slow your car at a light, that is taking away your ability to judge like you normally would.

 

[Sparx]

Hmm.. where did I say it didn't affect your body? Anywhere? Nope. I even said it was a relaxer, which obviously will slow your reaction time, hand-eye cordination, ect. Maybe try reading my post before responding. All I said was that it doesn't impair your decision making skills. I know plenty of people who have done it while driving, being at school, heck riding their bikes and they're just fine. It's not to the affect of alcohol like everyone makes it out to be, you don't get dizzy or anything.

are you even reading your posts? youre only backing up what i'm saying. how can you try to disagree?

and are you reading mine? i showed you exactly how it impairs your decision making skills.

how can anything that slows your reaction time or hand eye coordination be "fine" to do while driving?

 

[Fatphil32]

are you even reading your posts? youre only backing up what i'm saying. how can you try to disagree?

and are you reading mine? i showed you exactly how it impairs your decision making skills.

how can anything that slows your reaction time or hand eye coordination be "fine" to do while driving?

How's that? You're sitting here telling me how it really affects how you drive and such, even though it's a proven fact there's a lower automobile accident rate for marijuana users than those who don't.

And I'm reading yours and having trouble responding, which I'll explain to you in a PM later.

And I didn't say it's fine to do while driving. I said I know people who have been fine while under the wheel while high.

 

[DramaQueen]

All I did was prove that marijuana users have the same to lower rate of highway and general accidents than non-marijuana users. And you'd think for something that "impairs your judgment" they'd have higher automobile crash ratings and homicide rates.

And just because it's in your system doesn't mean it's affect is going on. Most of the effect happens for around an hour before it dies down. The only way to get those affects going again is to intake some more.

I'm not going to get into everything thats been mentioned in this thread to counter that, but who is saying that smoking pot ONLY affects your motor skills (and i mean vehicular, not your physical motor skills) it definitley does 'relax you' as you're saying, but when doing that it slows down your reaction time (as mentioned before) among other things.
It impairs your decision making, not ONLY on the road, but in your general surroundings (ie; whatever party you're at, or whoever's basement your in)

You're only talking about auto accidents, there are ALOT of other wrong decisions people make while high I'm sure.

 

[Babyjustrun]

Just because there's a lower statistic, doesn't mean it's still alright.
I think people, no matter what they do, forget cars can kill someone.