Do you think men and women can be "just friends"? Update: Page 7

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Let me first properly say hello. :wave: I have posted mostly on the Theme Parks and Budget Boards, but I have posted a few times here. I am always entertained!

The question I posed in my post was sparked by a current situation between me, my boyfriend, and his new female work buddy. I would love to get an outsiders read of it to hear if I'm making a mountain out of a molehill or if I have a right to feel as suspicious as I'm feeling now.

My BF (25-works full time) and I (21 - college student) have been dating for three years. Until the last few months, we have been very serious about eachother and very much in love. Around Thanksgiving time we even looked at engagement rings because we were thinking about getting engaged when I graduate in May. In December, our relationship became very strained--my BF became very irritible and yelled at me for the smallest things (even other people close to me began complaining about his "short fuse").

I can't help but think that these problems are mostly due to his budding friendship with a girl he works with. They began hanging out in December (at first going out together with one other work friend to bowling or a bar, then just going by themselves) at a time when I was extremely busy with school. He always invited me, but he knew I was so bogged down with school that i couldn't go.

He is spending more and more time with this girl. She is 30 and married. At first, I felt secure with it b/c of that, but there have since been many red flags. One, she is married, but says her husband doesn't like to leave the house. So...she meets men online and has spent entire weekends with men she meets online. Two, she is always buying my BF lunches at work and treats from Starbucks. She also has given him several gifts (clothes).

Last week, two things happened that really made me suspicious of what is going one. After he got out of his night class, he went and saw a movie with her. I was not invited and did not hear about it until the next day. A few days later, he said he was going bowling with her at 6pm. I said I would like to go, but could not go until 9pm. He said no, b/c he did not want to stay out of late b/c he had to work the next day. It turns out that he did not get home until midnight--they bowled at 7pm, then went out to a salsa dancing bar at 9pm, and I was again not invited.

Sorry this is so long...but I wanted to be detailed. He says that they are "just friends." I am not sure if I believe that. I don't think they're having a physical affair, but I am worried that this woman wants out of her marriage and is trying to butter up my BF. Any thoughts? :confused3
 
Oh, I'd definitely be suspicious of that relationship!

For the record, I do not believe that men and women can be just friends (as in, friends who hang out and do things together) because someone always wants more, even if it remains unspoken. Editing my post to add that I am not saying that this is an absolute rule, but in my experience if it's someone that you've just met (as in, a new co-worker), your instincts are going to tell you that it's just not cool to start hanging out all alone with this new person if you have a spouse or significant other.

If it's someone you've known for FOREVER, I think that's different, but if it's someone new, then forget it. I don't think you can really just make friends of the opposite sex that easily without at least one of you wanting something more.

I would sit down and have a long talk with your boyfriend about this other woman because it doesn't really sound all innocent to me. :guilty: In fact, if it were my DH and one of his co-workers, I'd be FURIOUS!
 
Considering most of my friends are male and we are "just friends" I believe they can be. One of my friends is married and we will go out to lunch or dinner alone; sometimes he pays, sometimes I pay, sometimes we pay for ourselves. His wife knows and she doesn't care. We are friends as well and that may make a difference. And no, neither of us "wants more", not even in an unspoken way. And yes, I am sure.

However with the personality change in your bf you do have a reason to feel the way you do.
 
No, you are not being too suspicious. This is bad news. Sorry. Not sure if anything has happened yet, but I'm sure your boyfriend is "flattered" by the attention of this woman and, let me tell you, she is going ALL OUT for him.
 

Based on what you described, it sounds like they are dating, not just "friends" hanging out. Whatever happens, listen to your inner voice. :grouphug:
 
While men and women can be "just" friends, this situtation sounds a bit questionable. :hug:
 
regardless of whether they have anything going yet or not, your boyfriend would rather hang out with a married woman, who apparently has permission from her husband to spend weekends with other men, and is treating your boyfriend like a boytoy/gifts and such....sounds like some rather loose morals on her part, if this is the kind of woman your boyfriend prefers, do you really want a future with him...
 
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I would be concerned. Based on what you have written I have to agree with the other poster it sounds like they are dating.
 
Miss Jasmine said:
While men and women can be "just" friends, this situtation sounds a bit questionable. :hug:
::yes::

It does sound like things are more serious that he is leading you to believe. So sorry this is happening to you. :grouphug: Follow you instincts, they are usually correct.
 
I do think that men and women can be friends, but in your case from all you described it doesn't sound like they are just friends. Not saying he is cheating, but it does sound like the woman wants more from the relationship than friendship and that can lead to a slippery slope.
 
I would agree with everyone else. I think you are justified in feeling like you do. Coming from a marriage with an unfaithful husband the signs are all there. Watch out!
 
I believe that men and women can just be friends. I have several male friends. Two of my very best friends are married to each other--which makes it nice, I can hang out with either or both of them. I have some male friends I've known for years--others are more recent.

However, your situation is different than that. I would never exclude a spouse or gf--nor do I buy my male friends gifts unless it's a birthday or something. If you are feeling uncomfortable, there is most likely something wrong--trust your gut on this one. The behavior change is a huge tip-off. :grouphug: I hope it all works out well for you.
 
Miss Jasmine said:
While men and women can be "just" friends, this situtation sounds a bit questionable. :hug:

Agreed, except for the "bit" part. I should say it is more than that.
 
To answer your question, yes, men and women can be just friends. I have a number of guy friends, most of whom I knew before I met my husband. We're still friends and still hang out on occasion.

But...this situation does sound a bit fishy. As someone else stated, it sounds more like they're dating than just hanging out together as friends.
 
I agree men & women can be just friends, but it does sound like your bf and his co-worker are dating. I think you should always trust your gut in situations like this.
I'm sorry, it's a lousy situation.
 
Thank you all for the feedback--I guess I'm not overreacting. Funny, I didn't start to get really suspicious about all of this until today. I thought that I had two problems (1. BF is getting increasingly difficult to be around, complaining a lot about me, my cooking, etc. and 2. BF likes spending time with this other girl), and it didn't dawn on me until talking for a very long time with my mom (who is very close to both me and my BF) that these two problems are related.

Here are a few things that happened this weekend that made me even more suspicious:
-We often go to spend the weekend at my parent's house. They live 1.5 hours away. For the past year and a half, we have been arriving on Friday evenings and leaving very early Monday mornings. For the first time ever, he was insistant about leaving Sunday morning. When we (mom and I) asked him why, he never gave a clear answer, other than saying he wanted to straighten up his apartment and clear some things out of boxes in his closet. After lots of pleading on my part, I was able to get him to stay until the evening so we could go out with my mom for her birthday dinner. Still, I don't really know why it was so important for him to get home early to clean, of all things. Does he want her to visit her apartment? Did he have plans with her? (she called him Sunday afternoon to ask when he was coming back).

-He spent TONS of time this weekend on the internet playing pool. When he has played online pool at my house, it has always been against her. Usually he loves sitting with me doing homework or watching a movie, this weekend he was on the computer most of the time.

I plan on having a talk with him about this tomorrow--saying that something strange is going on and that he can't be dating two people at once.
 
Can men and women be just friends? Oh wow, that is quite a question isn't it?
I think so many factors are involved there is no clear cut answer. It really depends on the man and the woman involved, doesn't it? Some can, some end up crossing the line.

I think it sounds like your guy is in very dangerous territory and the two of you have some serious issues to discuss. Attention like that from another woman can be a huge temptation and ego trip for even the most faithful and loving of men. Don't let his behavior slide. Try to talk it out. Best of luck to you. :grouphug:
 
Personally, I do not believe that men and women can be "just friends". In fact, a married couple that we have been friends with since high school split up last weekend after ten years of marriage and two kids. She threw him out because he tried to put a stop to their mutual male friend's daily visits while he was at work. She swears that they are only "good friends" and that he shouldn't be jealous. The fact is that there was a lot of touching involved and the man was going to their house while the husband was at work on a daily basis. My husband and I know the man and he is the biggest pervert. So sad...but my husband told his friend not to bring that man around his wife and he did it anyway.
 
I think that a man and a women and be just friends but in his case it seems that they are turning into more then friends. At least he did this before you got married.
 
Yes, men and women can be friends, but that's not what's happening here.

When people act differently they're doing something different. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
 














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