Do you prefer orca wild or captive

[orcadreamer]

What do you think....Do you prefer orcas captive or wild

 

[annabelle]

I would prefer to see them wild... but it took seeing them in captivity to have an appreciation for them.

As much as I hate to see wild animals - captured - and put on display, I think these parks do create an awareness for animals both on land and sea. With awareness, education and and hopefully respect, these animals stand a chance to be protected in the wild for future generations.

Maybe I'm living in a fantasy world... but that's just the way I see it.

 

[Tillikumtrainer]

Im actually okay with it as long a their well taken care of, are stimulated mentally, well fed and have enough space to swim in. Lolita's situation is horrible, however the SW crew are fine, from what i've seen everytime i go over there (20 years is along time). I seen the trainers and the whales in between shows so im okay with it. Back then we all thought whales were the most evil creatures who'd kill anything. we never thought them to be so intelligent they are, their social structure is so incredible, we never knew the whales birth gestation would be 17 months, or

how they help each other- quoted from "Operation Orca"

But when the white whale, now named Chimo, and another young female, Nootka, were moved to the Sealand facility at Oak Bay, Haida, the resident whale, was able to persuade the newcomers to begin eating. Ellis described what happened. "It was the most amazing thing. We had a safety net across between them and we had someone distracting [Haida] and feeding him, at the other end of the pool. We put in both of these animals and Haida kept coming, going by the net and looking at them through the web. I was in the water watching the net in case an animal got tangled. Haida came along with herring and they both came face to face in the net. He actually pushed herring through the mesh and into their mouths and that's how they started feeding. That happened within minutes of them going in the pool. In retrospect, that totally blows me away. It was really astounding."

so im happy their amazing. we even watched babies learn and grow. Im okay with it ..

 

[PaulaSB12]

Wild, that fish pond they have them in is way too small for an animal designed to swim thousands of miles, thats why their back fins are bent over you don't see that in the wild
Captivity


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Numerous animal protection agencies (including The Vancouver Humane Society, The Humane Society of the United States, The Vancouver SPCA) all agree that whales physically suffer the limited movement allowed in small artificial pools, suffer social deprivation when removed from their families in the wild, and suffer much shorter life spans than their counterparts in the wild.

Studies on physiology, senses, and energetic can be valid in limited ways to determine such physical responses as eye sensitivity to light, or the number of calories it takes to swim a certain distance. But, for the most part, behavioral studies on captives whales can't be applied to wild whales because captivity forces these animals to behave unnaturally.

Close-up contact with captive whales is initially a thrilling experience, but soon most people begin to sense that these magnificent mammals cannot possibly be living lives remotely resembling those they might have had in the world. Their movements are appallingly restricted to endless circling in the pool. They are fed dead fish to eat, are taught to perform on cue, and are forced to endure unrelenting public scrutiny for most of their captive lives. The sole educational purpose of these whale displays is, ironically, to directly confront human beings with the selfishness and cruelty they have imposed upon a highly intelligent fellow species. The "entertainment" provided by the whales is not "educational:, as the Aquarium maintains.

Rehabitation and release programs are a new area of scientific study. Only ONE orca has been released into the wild. For more information about Keiko ("Free Willy"), please visit www.oceanfutures.org.

"There is about as much educational benefit to be gained in studying dolphins ... in captivity as there would be studying mankind by only observing prisoners held in solitary confinement"
- Jacques Consteau

What's Wrong with Captivity?
IN THE WILD . . . Female orca whales are thought to live 80 years, and male orcas about 50. Both beluga whales and dolphins can live 25 to 30 years.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . Whales and dolphins frequently live only a fraction of the time they would in the wild. Many die shortly after capture, often unexpectedly, but necropsies find most die from bacterial infections. According to records, over 24 cetaceans have died at the Vancouver Aquarium. Bjossa has lost 2 mates and 3 babies.

IN THE WILD . . . Whales and dolphins are intelligent, highly social mammals who live in small family groups called "pods". Orca offspring stay with their mothers for life.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . Unrelated whales and dolphins are often forced to live together in groups that are nothing like their families in the wild. At the Vancouver Aquarium, a baby beluga whale was separated for 6 months from her mother.

IN THE WILD . . . Orca whales may travel up to 100 miles a day, reach speeds of 30 miles per hour and dive hundreds of feet below the water's surface.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . Most captive whales and dolphins can swim for only a few seconds before reaching the sides of their tanks. Bjossa would have to swim around her tank 2500 times a day to get enough exercise.

IN THE WILD . . . Whales and dolphins live in a world of sound. Orca pods have unique "dialects" containing specific sound patterns. Whales and dolphins use echolocation to locate each other and to capture live prey.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . The Vancouver Aquarium, whale tanks are many times noisier than the ocean. The glass and concrete walls frequently inhibit the natural use of sound by whales and dolphins. The water and cooling pumps are heard underwater 24 hours a day.

IN THE WILD . . . Whales and dolphins have evolved for millions of years as part of a complex web of marine life. They belong in the ocean, surrounded by other sea animals, along with the tides, waves, storms, sea floors and coastlines of their natural homes.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . Nothing in their evolution has prepared whales or dolphins for life in captivity. Everything is foreign - from the size and shape of the tanks, to the artificial social environment, to the textures, colours, sounds and lighting they experience, to the water they live in, which is often artificial sea water, chemically treated with chlorine. Sadly, the results is often abnormal behaviour, aggression, injury, illness and premature death.

Captivity vs. Trends
Over seventy established or proposed aquariums in North America are whale and dolphin-free facilities.
Since 1990, 19 marine and amusement parks in North America have closed or discontinued dolphin shows.
Attendance may be declining at display facilities.
Better educational programs teach respect and care for wild cetaceans. As public learn truths about "real" cetaceans, they often pity captive ones.
As TV, computers, and virtual reality become greater educational tools, such "justification" to keep captives on display fades further away.
Wild whales and dolphin watching tours are a worldwide growth industry, an alternative to captivity and a deterrent to whaling.

 

[donaldduck352]

I would prefer to see them wild... but it took seeing them in captivity to have an appreciation for them.

As much as I hate to see wild animals - captured - and put on display, I think these parks do create an awareness for animals both on land and sea. With awareness, education and and hopefully respect, these animals stand a chance to be protected in the wild for future generations.

Maybe I'm living in a fantasy world... but that's just the way I see it.

If it was not for places like Sw, alot of people would not understand!!
They are countrys out there that donn't have protective laws So maybe the sacrifice of the few make will help teach us of thier demise!!

Wild, that fish pond they have them in is way too small for an animal designed to swim thousands of miles, thats why their back fins are bent over you don't see that in the wild
Captivity


CFNWIC
action alerts

Numerous animal protection agencies (including The Vancouver Humane Society, The Humane Society of the United States, The Vancouver SPCA) all agree that whales physically suffer the limited movement allowed in small artificial pools, suffer social deprivation when removed from their families in the wild, and suffer much shorter life spans than their counterparts in the wild.

Studies on physiology, senses, and energetic can be valid in limited ways to determine such physical responses as eye sensitivity to light, or the number of calories it takes to swim a certain distance. But, for the most part, behavioral studies on captives whales can't be applied to wild whales because captivity forces these animals to behave unnaturally.

Close-up contact with captive whales is initially a thrilling experience, but soon most people begin to sense that these magnificent mammals cannot possibly be living lives remotely resembling those they might have had in the world. Their movements are appallingly restricted to endless circling in the pool. They are fed dead fish to eat, are taught to perform on cue, and are forced to endure unrelenting public scrutiny for most of their captive lives. The sole educational purpose of these whale displays is, ironically, to directly confront human beings with the selfishness and cruelty they have imposed upon a highly intelligent fellow species. The "entertainment" provided by the whales is not "educational:, as the Aquarium maintains.

Rehabitation and release programs are a new area of scientific study. Only ONE orca has been released into the wild. For more information about Keiko ("Free Willy"), please visit www.oceanfutures.org.

"There is about as much educational benefit to be gained in studying dolphins ... in captivity as there would be studying mankind by only observing prisoners held in solitary confinement"
- Jacques Consteau

What's Wrong with Captivity?
IN THE WILD . . . Female orca whales are thought to live 80 years, and male orcas about 50. Both beluga whales and dolphins can live 25 to 30 years.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . Whales and dolphins frequently live only a fraction of the time they would in the wild. Many die shortly after capture, often unexpectedly, but necropsies find most die from bacterial infections. According to records, over 24 cetaceans have died at the Vancouver Aquarium. Bjossa has lost 2 mates and 3 babies.

IN THE WILD . . . Whales and dolphins are intelligent, highly social mammals who live in small family groups called "pods". Orca offspring stay with their mothers for life.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . Unrelated whales and dolphins are often forced to live together in groups that are nothing like their families in the wild. At the Vancouver Aquarium, a baby beluga whale was separated for 6 months from her mother.

IN THE WILD . . . Orca whales may travel up to 100 miles a day, reach speeds of 30 miles per hour and dive hundreds of feet below the water's surface.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . Most captive whales and dolphins can swim for only a few seconds before reaching the sides of their tanks. Bjossa would have to swim around her tank 2500 times a day to get enough exercise.

IN THE WILD . . . Whales and dolphins live in a world of sound. Orca pods have unique "dialects" containing specific sound patterns. Whales and dolphins use echolocation to locate each other and to capture live prey.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . The Vancouver Aquarium, whale tanks are many times noisier than the ocean. The glass and concrete walls frequently inhibit the natural use of sound by whales and dolphins. The water and cooling pumps are heard underwater 24 hours a day.

IN THE WILD . . . Whales and dolphins have evolved for millions of years as part of a complex web of marine life. They belong in the ocean, surrounded by other sea animals, along with the tides, waves, storms, sea floors and coastlines of their natural homes.

IN CAPTIVITY . . . Nothing in their evolution has prepared whales or dolphins for life in captivity. Everything is foreign - from the size and shape of the tanks, to the artificial social environment, to the textures, colours, sounds and lighting they experience, to the water they live in, which is often artificial sea water, chemically treated with chlorine. Sadly, the results is often abnormal behaviour, aggression, injury, illness and premature death.

Captivity vs. Trends
Over seventy established or proposed aquariums in North America are whale and dolphin-free facilities.
Since 1990, 19 marine and amusement parks in North America have closed or discontinued dolphin shows.
Attendance may be declining at display facilities.
Better educational programs teach respect and care for wild cetaceans. As public learn truths about "real" cetaceans, they often pity captive ones.
As TV, computers, and virtual reality become greater educational tools, such "justification" to keep captives on display fades further away.
Wild whales and dolphin watching tours are a worldwide growth industry, an alternative to captivity and a deterrent to whaling.

The needs of the many outwiegh the needs of a few.Just to show us how we as people have ignored the situ. So to me I think SW brings this to light

 

[donaldduck352]

Feed on this And please post if you think I'm wrong!!

 

[julieannbabe]

What do you think....Do you prefer orcas captive or wild

Orca wild - amazing to just observe them in the ocean.
they are much more playful in the wild.

 

[LuvOrlando]

In the wild. I am ok with non domesticated animals being held in captivity when being held is for their own protection (an abandoned baby or handicapped animal) or as part of a preserve operation to increase the population in the wild. Occasionally I am ok with zoos ect if they are part of research programs and the animals are receiving amazing care. But orca & dolphin are totally different, I dislike it unless being in the wild means certain death. I really dislike marine life being held because they require so much room and even the best facilities fail miserably at giving them enough. These are pack animals and we (humans) deprive them of pods because of space limitations, it always seems so cruel to me. Check out the social structure, they like to stay as families

www.pbs.org/kqed/oceanadventures/episodes/killerwhale/indepth-orcas.html

 

[Mrs. Darcy]

Wild. It's awesome to see them up close in a tank, but it's sad, too.

 

[Magic Mom]

You mean like for dinner?

 

[luvmy3]

In the wild.

 

[jrmasm]

You mean like for dinner?

You stole my question!!!!

 

[Magic Mom]

You stole my question!!!!

Sorry!

 

[Sanchez]

You mean like for dinner?

Grilled with Cajun seasoning.

 

[LuvOrlando]

A ha ha, a ha ha a haaaaaaaaa......
so not funny

 

[shortbun]

While I love seeing the animals in zoos and waterparks, I wish we didn't have any. I wish animals were not endangered and needing saving by those experts who have studied them. I wish it was illegal on the earth to hunt and fish for these mammals or do anything that would harm them-they should be protected just like we are - wait, it's actually illegal to dump toxins in our water, pollute our air, use our natural resources with wild abandon...guess we're ALL in a world of hurt. Sad.

 

[idieh]

I think that most people would agree that they are a little saddened about what has happened to nature since man has risen to the top of the food chain. All wildlife appears to have suffered. Species that were once free to roam the planet are now forced to live in much smaller spaces. Some have been pushed to the brink of extinction; due solely to the effects of man and our uncontrollable population and its demands.

However, without these theme parks and scientific labs/studies we would never be able to build a loving bond with these creatures. Lets face it, most of us would never glimpse wild animals, except for what is visible outside of our backyard windows. Seeing nature only through the TV would not breed the attachment needed to spawn all of the websites and charities that we have today. We need to see the creatures "close-up" to appreciate their beauty and develop genuine caring for their plight!

 

[Jennasis]

It's not just orcas, but all animals in zoos and marineparks. Of course we would prefer them to be in the wild. That's just common sense.

However, if they are in a captive environment, I would hope they are treated humanely, with dignity and allowed to be as natural as possible.

THAT SAID, it's obvious that this poster is just phishing for hits for her own website.

 

[disney_mommy]

Out in the wild. Same way I like my trolls.

 

[SaraJayne]

The OP is two and a half years old.