do u go on vacation if ur poor??

I second the WAshington DC trip. Easy 4 hr car ride from NJ and hotels are much cheaper on the wkends. You could easily find a hotel on priceline or expedia w/ breakfast for under $100. It could also be a last minute trip with little time to plan if money is a huge factor. Bring a coller with breakfast stuff if breakfast is not included as well as snacks so maybe you could eat a big snack and skip lunch all together. As a PP said most museums are free and the National Zoo is fantastic. You know the SHore is NOT cheap no matter where you stay during the summer. If you can pay for the vacation with cash, not charge anything and also not be stressed about what else the money could be used for I say GO FOR IT!!!!!!
 
Kinda depends on your financial situation. To be frank, some folks that make a wonderful salary probably shouldn't be taking the types of vacation they do....not if they are already in debt up to their eyeballs and paying for the vacation on credit. Not a wise move, because they'll come home to more stress because now the bills are higher!

If that tax refund would be more wisely spent getting yourself out of debt, then I'd say, no maybe don't do a big vacation right now, get out of debt first. And by debt I mean the crushing kind....where you are making minimum payments that don't even cover the finance charges from last month....where you are waiting for a paycheck to arrive just to go grocery shopping because you literally don't have $10 in your pocket.

So what if you do have crushing debt but still need to do something for a little fun. Consider some of the much less expensive vacations. Do you have to do a theme park? How about just a long weekend at the beach....relaxing, playing in the sand/water? How about visiting friends or relatives (of course only if you get along well, otherwise the stress isn't a vacation!). Some gas money, a little spending money and a nice dinner out to thank the friends for their hospitality, but rich memories with friends/family can be very destressing. If no friends/family you want to visit, how about a weekend at a local resort. Pool, maid service, nothing to do but sit out and relax. A lot of the nice resorts often have special rates for locals....and loads of specials for short visits. Or one 100 miles away...cheap on transportation but far enough away to not feel like you're home....explore the town's parks, museums, playgrounds....contact their Chamber of Commerce and find out about any free concerts or plays happening, and what else there is to do in town that's free or cheap.

Probably blasphemy to say on this board, but vacations do NOT have to be expensive. And while we love our Disney vacations, we have a lot of almost free vacations that have been just as memorable!

Another thought....if you are always getting a large tax refund...consider changing your withholding so that you get more of a paycheck and less of a refund of the loan to the government! You can take that extra money and put it in your savings account earning a few pennies of interest, but also making life a little more joyous seeing that money grown. And consider saving a little each week to make that savings grow...$20 a week is over $1,000 in the course of year. Most people can find $20 a week to save even on low income. Most "experts" say to pay yourself first...so take that $20 and put it away before you pay bills or go shopping....you won't miss it nearly as much as you think! I put away $125 each Friday with automatic transfer, so my DH's direct deposit paycheck arrives on Thursday, and $125 of it disappears each Friday, we have a large nest egg for our trips to Disney and yet my budget doesn't seem to be affected because if I had that $125 in the checking account I'd spend it....like I used to do!

And try to find ways to earn that $20 if the budget just can't stretch that far.....my kids collect aluminum cans and turn them in...started out with just the few cans we used, but when they mentioned their earned pennies to a neighbor, the neighbor offered to let them have her cans....and then the neighbor told another neighbor and now it's spread where my kids go around the neighborhood and collect cans from 5 different families. All big soda drinkers (which we aren't!) who like the idea of recycling but don't want to bother hauling the cans to the machine, so they're happy to let my kids do it for them! Win win. They get over $60 a month and we go to the recycler twice a month.

Coupon clipping...take the money you save from coupons (the receipt always shows the total coupons used) and put that money away for savings. It is surprising how saving a couple dollars here or there can add up so big over the course of time! We put any rebates into our savings accounts....that $10 check doesn't seem like much until it combines with our $125/week, our coupons, or cans and suddenly we've got enough for a very nice trip!.
 
I just wanted to second the idea of Priceline or Hotwire if you decide to go. You can save a lot by using them and by eating some meals in your room.

I'd also like to wish you the best. I hope things turn out well for you.

:)
 
Hi, I'm Anna, and I'm poor. ;)

I'm a single mom and I now how stressful things can get! My opinion is, you NEED a vacation. We just got back from WDW (thanks to my brother and sis-in-law) and it was an amazing trip! I honestly never thought my DD would see Disney as a child. I'm a good budget-er but on one income getting to WDW from Idaho is a feat! But this trip made me realize how important family vacations are. We have memories that you really can't put a price tag on. I have come back determined to fit vacationing into our budget. It won't be another WDW vacation for a llllooonnnggg time, but I'm already planning on a trip to Yellowstone this summer.

I would definitely take some of the return, pay bills, put some in savings and then hit a destination close to home. :thumbsup2
 

Yes, have a vacation, just keep it reasonable. Here are some ideas to expand on your thoughts already expressed:
-If you go on weekdays instead of a weekend you may find hotels have cheaper rates. For Williamsburg we have seen rates at $39/night, with waffle breakfast included. Look in the areas surrounding Williamsburg for better deals. If you do both Williamsburg historical section and Busch Gardens you will want to stay at least 2 nights. If you do the historical as well as Busch Gardens make sure you do the history part on arrival and the next day and the park the last day. Williamsburg is a lot of fun, but would be a bit dull after a day of whooshing on rides. If you want to and can stay a third night, Jamestown settlement is pretty neat as well.
-If that is not an option, or runs into too much money, maybe you can break things down into several day trips during the summer. Don't know how far you are from the beach, from parks in NJ and from Hershey but taking a day off to get there, have fun and get home (no hotel) can be refreshing, although tiring. Again, a weekday would make it feel like something out of the ordinary and would help with crowds as well.
- A stay-cation can be fun. I assume you have time to take a couple days off from work, just not the bankroll you would like to have to fund a trip. Take several days off and do some of the above (hershey etc) or here are some other ideas: working farms that allow visitors, historical attractions, fishing/boating areas with the paddle boats or canoes, putt-putt, nature walks/hiking areas, a public beach within driving distance, maybe even buy some kites and find a good place to enjoy that with a picnic lunch. By figuring out a plan for each day, but sleeping at home, you may find you have as good of a time as traveling somewhere!
If you want to add a Disney flair, watch related (or related in your mind at least) movies in the evening. Pocahontas if you do Williamsburg/Jamestown/Busch Gardens. Some of the European themed movies (Snow White/Cinderella/Sleeping Beauty/Sword in the Stone) actually fit well with Busch Gardens as well, they used to have an Irish attraction-Darby O'Gill and the Little People would be a good movie to fit that theme! If you do the hiking/nature and canoeing maybe Jungle Book, Escape to Witch Mtn, and maybe even Lion King. I am sure there are plenty of other movies that would sort of fit with the theme of the day. With a day at the beach the older version of That Darn Cat could be cute as well (lots of surf references).
Edited to add one last thought: Tarrytown in NY should be do-able in a day, or even stay overnight one night. Several neat mansions (like Washington Irvings home-Sunnyside) and events throughout the year, although October has the best ones! Watch Legend of Sleepy Hollow the night before or that evening!
 
There is nothing more stressful to me than debt and no savings, so going on a holiday to relieve stress only to come home to more debt would stress me out more than a vacation as would not having an emergency fund.

Dawn
 
No, I don't think it is irresponsible. Sounds like you are very responsible in how you do handle your money even if you consider yourself to be low income. In this economy you are no different from a majority of the people across the country right now. You and your husband sound like you deserve a little get-a-way.
 
When we were poor and did not have kids, no, we did not vacation. "Vacation" for us at those times meant sleeping in late and maybe eating out for dinner.

However, since we have kids, I think it's important to get away with them once in a while, ideally at least once a year. Even if you tent camp, the kids will have good memories of their vacations. I would take some of your return to vacation. Kids are usually excited just to stay in a hotel with a pool! Maybe go visit the next town over. See if there's a place with an indoor water park near you.

I don't know where you are located but the cheapest "far" vacation we've taken, which happened to be my kids' favorite vacation of all time, was a trip to the White Mountains in NH. We stayed in a 2 BR cottage up there for $99/night. It was wonderful. We drove up Mt. Washington which was astounding (and harrowing!!!:scared1:). We visited the next town over which boasted the world's longest candy counter. We went moose seeing and saw Clark's Bear Show at Clark's Trading Post. There was also a great mini golf in the area, a convenient grocery store and laundromat. I think the whole trip cost us about $1500 for the week, gas included. I know that's not cheap but we ate out every meal and could've trimmed a couple of hundred dollars by making sandwiches and buying more stuff at the grocery store.
 
Even going on the regular hotels website you can find good deals on hotels if you can book them early enough.

I have gotten Econolodge hotels for $25-$35 a night just using Choice Hotels website.
 
Also if you have the time and patience, you can get a deal by going to a timeshare presentation for a cheaper hotel or tickets somewhere. We've done that before. The kids were prepared before that we were going to say no, so they were counting how many times Dad had to say no during the afternoon.
 
We are a low income family with little debt and no savings... we havent been on a vacation in 4 years. we have taken day trips to local places but you still come back to the stresses at the end of the day. Hubby and i are thinking of taking some of our tax return $ that is coming and putting some away for savings and some for a low budget 3 or 4 days..we are in jersey so we are thinking maybe herhey or busch gardens. We feel that maybe its time to take a few days with the family to destress and spend more than one day together. Question is, is it irresponsible of us when we are so very tight with cash or do you see it as a positive? please tell us what you all are doing? oh and moving to a cheaper place isnt possible to save $, it would compromise our safety where we are. Thanks.

I'm poor, but I'm also making a tremendous sacrifice to afford a disney vacation for my daughter and me. During the year, I make enough to pay my bills and whatever I am able to save is usually needed for some emergency that was unforseen so that it is never really a "savings", but money set aside for car repairs and activity expenses for my daughter. We, she and I, haven't had a vacation in all of her life (2.5 yrs.) and I haven't had one in about 4.

I've been sacrificing eating out, manicures, pedicures, and just being budget conscience overall to pay for the trip and because I am in a lower income bracket, I will be using my income tax refund, part of it anyway, to pay the remaining balance on our trip. Since she's under 3 I don't have to buy park tickets are pay room fees for her. She'll also be dining free while we're on vacation as well, but nevertheless, we'd be going even if she were 3 and up.

I work hard and believe that I and my daughter deserve, when well planned and budgeted for, to see the world outside of our small town and to enjoy life too! No, I don't condone being irresponsible and taking away bill money to do so, but I don't find what you're doing or considering irresponsible.

You have to live life! So, if it's within your power and you can use your income tax without taking away from paying your bills and regular living expenses I say DO IT! I am although I could probably use my refund to pay down some debt or a small balance on my credit card, but i'm able to pay them without my taxes. Maybe I should pay it off, but I'm responsible 365 days of the year and by darnit i'm going to live a little for 7 of those day this year. Next year will take care of itself!!!
 
I just have to comment on the "you deserve it" I keep reading here.

Noone deserves to forgo the permanent for something temporary.

What you DESERVE is to live within your means and save for your future. If that means forgoing toys or vacations for the sake of tomorrow, then that is what it means.

There are so many ways to build memories with your children besides a vacation/trip.

You mentioned no time to go to school.....is school a DESIRE you have or just something you decided to mention? If it is a true desire, I do believe you can find a way. Many of us here on this board went to school while working AND mothering.

I have no idea what your income vs. housing costs are so I am not going to comment on that other than to say that since you brought it up, the ratio must be fairly high. Dave Ramsey recommends mortgage, taxes, and insurance of 25% of your take home pay only.....but that is a guideline, obviously some people are stuck in higher amounts and can't currently change that. But it is an ideal amount.

Dawn
 
I just have to comment on the "you deserve it" I keep reading here.

Noone deserves to forgo the permanent for something temporary.

What you DESERVE is to live within your means and save for your future. If that means forgoing toys or vacations for the sake of tomorrow, then that is what it means.

There are so many ways to build memories with your children besides a vacation/trip.

You mentioned no time to go to school.....is school a DESIRE you have or just something you decided to mention? If it is a true desire, I do believe you can find a way. Many of us here on this board went to school while working AND mothering.

I have no idea what your income vs. housing costs are so I am not going to comment on that other than to say that since you brought it up, the ratio must be fairly high. Dave Ramsey recommends mortgage, taxes, and insurance of 25% of your take home pay only.....but that is a guideline, obviously some people are stuck in higher amounts and can't currently change that. But it is an ideal amount.

Dawn

I have to disagree a bit on that. The horrible truth is, for some, tomorrow never comes. I'm not saying don't save for the future, you have to. But what is the point of living if all your are doing is trying to get "to the future" and missing life now. There has to be a balance. Only an individual themselves would know what that balance was.

I do agree that memories can be made in your backyard. The point is, don't forget to enjoy life before it passes you by.
 
I'll be honest, I haven't known poor in a very long time but there was a day when we were. Growing up we never went on traditional vacations. Only once do I remember my parents saving up enough money to drive up to Niagra Falls for a weekend while having an uncle take care of me.

But what we did so was drive to uncles house and spend a week there. ( We were in Cleveland and they were in Detroit ). The adults would get to visit while the cousins got to see each other. Apart from gas and tolls there was really no expense as all meals would be cooked and served at home.
 
We are a low income family with little debt and no savings... we havent been on a vacation in 4 years. we have taken day trips to local places but you still come back to the stresses at the end of the day. Hubby and i are thinking of taking some of our tax return $ that is coming and putting some away for savings and some for a low budget 3 or 4 days..we are in jersey so we are thinking maybe herhey or busch gardens. We feel that maybe its time to take a few days with the family to destress and spend more than one day together. Question is, is it irresponsible of us when we are so very tight with cash or do you see it as a positive? please tell us what you all are doing? oh and moving to a cheaper place isnt possible to save $, it would compromise our safety where we are. Thanks.

I haven't read all the postings, but from your posting style and avitars, it appears you're a young couple (family of two) without children, with one of you being a struggling artist-type and the other a stay at home housewife-type. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Oh dear, I just read some of the OP's posting history: not young, has children and wants more. Oh well, I gave good advise anyway, so I'll keep the below post as it is...

You're on the right track to have little debt, and especially not having children until you're in a better financial situation. Good for you for taking responsibility in that. It seems the lack of income might be because you're young and just starting out. Sometimes that's just the way it is. If your avitars are representative of you two being a housewife and artist, it might be time to think about getting grown-up jobs so you can do the things you want. Not judging you; just pointing it out.

ETA: Don't do this if you're taking the children along; it'd be inconsiderate to your fellow passengers. If you're vacationing alone, this'll work great. Someplace like Busch Gardens is certainly do-able. I'd take Amtrak to Williamsburg if at all possible: it'll seem like more of a vacation, isn't that expensive, and saves wear and tear on your car. Besides, it's a PITA to drive down there or in any tourist area. You'll likely be able to priceline a 3* hotel for about 75/night or less (use the bidding sites like biddingfortravel.com or betterbidding.com to do your research). Williamsburg has a terrific public transporation system and website: most hotels are close to a bus line, and one route drops off directly at the Busch Gardens gate to the England pavillion (see williamsburgtransport.com). In the summer there are frequently combo ticket packages to Water County, Busch Gardens and Colonial Williamsburg.

Good luck. Even if it doesn't work out and you don't get to go anywhere, it'll give you experience in vacation planning. Planning is half the fun!
 
I will say do it......as long as you can pay cash without missing payments on bills or pulling from a fund you have designated for something else (medical bills, housing upgrades, etc...) We didn't vacation until my oldest was 7. I never thought we could afford it. Then I got sick of seeing everyone else having a blast and decided we'd do it or bust LOL I saved each week, anything I didn't spend went into the savings. In the end I didn't have much (about $1000) but it covered our room and some gas. My parents went with us (in their own room) and paid the other half of the gas. My food budget was just what I would've spent that week anyway. We went to Florida, stayed in a Super 8 about a mile from the beach, and had a blast. Seeing my kids in the ocean the first time was awesome. Also, I am a "super tourist" (my mom's words) and had researched out fun kid things to do that were FREE or next to nothing in cost. We visited a children's museum, went to eat at Fudpucker's (kids loved it, adults were "meh"), etc... After that we've gone every year. One year my parents rented a condo in Myrtle Beach and we tagged along and paid for food and entertainment, we split gas. The next year was all on our own. DH had enough pts to get 2 free rooms for 3 nights at a Sleep Inn on the Beach. First ever vacation for him (he won't vacay with my parents) and he was sold. Last year we went to Lake Michigan. Again, I scouted out inexpensive but nice rooms and had found cool places to visit on the inexpensive side. Days at the "beach" were free, we even packed a cooler for lunch. Still, we are spending not much more than that on our WDW vacation. We are staying in an offsite condo, only eating onsite 3 or 4 times, buying discounted tickets, and driving down (flying six cheaply? LOL not that I've found......yet.) One year we even just went to Nasville for the weekend and did the Nashville Shore waterpark.

You may not be able to do Disney (or you may, you have to factor in the expense of getting there and the tickets but you can usually micro-manage other details to cheapen them.) The thing is you may have to do a 3 day vacation - Fri, Sat, and Sun with a hotel room Fri and Sat night. It can still be wonderful and the bonus is - the one working only misses Friday!! The year we went to the beach with DH he missed two days, Fri and Mon, because we stayed over a weekend to accomodate his work schedule. You don't have to be gone 7 days, do what works for you.

I wish I had made that realization earlier and we had vacationed earlier. For us, it has really helped create a memory that bonds us. But, again, we only do it when we can pay it upfront and still meet other repsonibilites. Oh, and I had to add - We have friends who are better off than we are and they go into debt to vacation :scared1: They also don't know how to budget for a vacation and want to do it all "maximum experience". They refuse to drive, flying is "nicer". They refuse to use a condo to eat in (why bother renting one and having the full kitchen? Though I will admit we rent 2 hotel rooms sometimes because we just need the space) because they are on vacation and want to eat out, etc... Sometimes you have to live within your means which means vacationing within your means, too. I'd much rather be cooking in my condo on the beach or offsite near Disney, or taking sandwiches I made to the beach at Lake Michigan than sitting in my living room all summer but that is just me (I mean, really, I'll have to fix food at home so why not do it somewhere fun? LOL)

ETA - Dave Ramsey is great BUT 25% of some people's income would not approach covering a home/apt in a safe neighborhood. Do what you gotta do but don't put your kids in danger to have a cheaper house payment. Also, when my kids were younger I, basically, had to stay home. I tried to work and 2 kids in daycare ate my check. That was okay except if I had to miss work when one was sick (and still had to pay daycare to hold their spot) which meant I had to "borrow" from DH's check to make the daycare. Then it ceased to make sense. Also, I would LOVE to go to school but for me it IS about finances. We make "too much" (insert sarcastic laugh) for me to get grants and I work 8 - 5:30 every week for a job that, once insurance is taken out, leaves me with about 1/2 my pay. BUT the insurance is good. I could quit and DH could go back to carrying insurance but it is my $500 good insurance vs his $1200 crummy insurance. For us, with kids who do go to the doctor and who have orthodontics, etc... it really isn't worth it right now. And I don't live anywhere that offers night classes for 100% of your degree so I WOULD have to quit at some point, for about a year. I may do that later, if circumstances change, but right now that would be a financial disaster. I'm just saying you can cut corners and cut corners but when there is nothing left to cut you have to work with what you've got. OP may not mean she can't go to school EVER but right now it may be her reality and only she and her family can make that decision. They may not have to live where they are for life but right now it may be their best option. Again, that is really only something those in her home can decide.
 
I have to disagree a bit on that. The horrible truth is, for some, tomorrow never comes. I'm not saying don't save for the future, you have to. But what is the point of living if all your are doing is trying to get "to the future" and missing life now. There has to be a balance. Only an individual themselves would know what that balance was.

I do agree that memories can be made in your backyard. The point is, don't forget to enjoy life before it passes you by.
I agree. Some people never have much money and how sad it would be to never do anything because of money worries. Of course that's reality for some but I think that if you can save and pay for a vacation without adding debt that you've done nothing wrong.

Besides it's really up to the OP anyway.
 
We camped for three years in a row. We'd just throw our stuff together and go. Pretty cheap but kind of labor intensive. We had a few good spots that we used. By the third year, we were experts. Then we had our debt paid and we started saving for a more deluxe vacation. Now, I no longer sleep on the ground and we are going to try to find a pop up camper - not for a cheap vaca but for the outdoor enjoyment.
 
I say to go forward with a vacation. Yes, some people need to be conciencious about the amount that is spent over the "vacation" so that they don't return home to stress over the finances. But if you do your homework and check out the affordable lodging accommodations at the desired destination, eat reasonably, and don't go overboard on expensive souveniers or activities you should be ok.

Growing up our family vacations were camping trips to either the beach or Yosemite (grew up in CA). While they were great we did long to go to Disneyland or someplace exotic like Hawaii. But Disneyland only happened a few times when we were young and then not again until we were in high school. And like the PP, regardless of home many weekend day trips we took to the beach you still come home to reality.

As a teacher I have worked with numerous children who's families don't take them out of town, so any small outings that we take in school or that the family take son their own is meaningful to them. But you see their faces when they listen to their friends talk about where they're going and where they've been. Their envious. So as a parent if you can afford to take your family someplace, to do something "special" it can impact your family in a positive way.

Regardless of ones financial situation, it's those individuals who know how to budget their money and don't overspend that can have successful family vacations that relieve them of the exterior stressors of everyday life. I'd rather go into a vacation with a realistic budget, mindful of my finances than one where I go hog wild to regret it later.
 
hello everyone-im the OP and iam astonished at all the replies i got..such good advice..our last vacation was disney in 2007..our twins were born premature with some medical issues which made have to be at home with them..only till this year (1st grade) am i looking for a part time job cuz they have got their medical issues under control. Having to live on one salary since 2003 has been very eye opening. i have gone without manicures/pedicures( do it myself) as well as do it yourself hair color..only get haircuts 2x a year and eating out is not an option.it can really wear on someones spirits but thankfully my hubby and i have always had a positive outlook so even though its been 7 years of struggling we know one day it will change. Vacations are a luxury for us so this is a big deal. btw-the disney trip was paid for by my parents who took us.

will look into the camping and have though about dc but would 2 seven year olds like it? btw our cars are a 97 & 91 hondas
 














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