Do transferred points keep home resort status?

[jmatias]

We were lucky to get FF tickets and now we are going to WDW in December ..very excited about that!

We really would like to stay at VWL but our points are at BWV & BCV. So my options are to either have a VWL owner book the stay or transfer the points if they keep the home resort status.

Anyone know the answer? Thanks!

 

[RobDoc]

Transferred points are supposed to retain their original Use Year and resort status. In reality, they will usually assume the Use Year and nome resort of the contract into which they were transferred.

HOWEVER ... if you have them transferred specifically so they may take advantage of the 11 month priority, MS can/will manually track the status of the points if prodded. You may need to even ask to speak with a supervisor, but they will do this for you. I would let them know at the time of transfer that this is your intent- write down the name of the CM you work with as well as the date- just so you have some documentation and refer to that info, if needed, when you call to make the reservation at VWL.

We should not have to do anything , since the points should behave as prescribed in our documents, but you can have points transferred for that purpose and MS will assist with their appropriate use - just be prepared if they are reluctant.

Enjoy!

 

[keishashadow]

I'd be happy to switch out my VWL points for Hawaii . I just went thru two separate transfers of points into my accounts - somewhat perplexing.

For some reason CM's I spoke to kept insisting that the the UY of points I transferred in had to match my UY. First transfer of BCV went into my BWV account. I was told that the points had to have my Oct. UY (or earlier) in order to use the 11 month window @ my home resort (BWV). There was no concern as to what resort points were transferred though (?)

CM's did verify that if points are from a different resort, they can retain their original resort status but; this requires a manual pull to determine where they came from (again, they indicated that could take some time & researching could delay the actual booking until they verify their pedigree).

I'd like to think that I've been told the "worst case scenario" by MS. Seems as though plenty of other folks haven't had these restrictions.

Good luck.

 

[m4travel]

So, let's see if I understand this. We have, say, 300 points at SSR. We also have a small contract, say 25 - 50 points, at OKW.

We want to stay at OKW at a popular time, but don't have enough points even with borrowing from the next UY (remember, it's a small contract). We could then transfer the needed points from SSR to the OKW contract and be able to book the stay at OKW at the 11-month window, right, rather than the 7-month window?

I'm hoping this is the way it works...

 

[jmatias]

Thank you for the replies! I think I'll call MS tomorrow to double check how it will all work.

Maybe just easier to ask a VWL owner to book the ressie but for some reason I prefer to control the points myself.

 

[Doctor P]

So, let's see if I understand this. We have, say, 300 points at SSR. We also have a small contract, say 25 - 50 points, at OKW.

We want to stay at OKW at a popular time, but don't have enough points even with borrowing from the next UY (remember, it's a small contract). We could then transfer the needed points from SSR to the OKW contract and be able to book the stay at OKW at the 11-month window, right, rather than the 7-month window?

I'm hoping this is the way it works...

No. This is one situation that they do have control over and they will not let you do this. That is part of the unfairness with the glitch in the system that allows the points ever to change their home resort or use year status--it doesn't apply evenly. In the situation I experienced, I had points that we got through an add on at the end of my use year (closing was only two weeks from the end of my use year). DVD would absolutely not allow me to bank the points, but a member jumped on my offer to rent the points at a bargain price. Only slightly later I found out that once transferred, the points went into the member's OWN use year (rather than retaining mine) and the member had 11 more months to use the points whereas if I retained the points they would have expired. The member didn't do anything wrong, the member was extremely experienced at doing this and took advantage of the system for his advantage (for which I do not blame him). I do feel that the system that allows this is unfair, though.

 

[jmatias]

Just an update:

Called MS to confirm that I could transfer VWL Dec. 2006 points into my BCV June 2006 account so I could make ressies at VWL this December to take advantage of the VWL home resort priority.

MS said yes to the transfer and yes to the points keeping VWL priority.

Okay....called my cousin who is the VWL owner and found out he is out of 2006 points but has 2007.

Called back MS and this time they said No...transferred points must be same year...didn't have to been same use month but needed to be same year points.

So....in the end I asked cousin to make my december ressies for me at VWL.

As mentioned in the other posts...transferring points between different resorts doesn't follow a clear cut outline....best to call MS and ask

 

[keys2kingdom]

OK, let me put an opposite twist on this. I am a BCV owner. I am still in my 11 month window and am shopping for a transfer. Are we sure that once points are transfered they assume MY home resort and MY UY automatically because that is what I would want them to do? So in reality I can have any kind of points transferred not just BCV right?

 

[Doctor P]

OK, let me put an opposite twist on this. I am a BCV owner. I am still in my 11 month window and am shopping for a transfer. Are we sure that once points are transfered they assume MY home resort and MY UY automatically because that is what I would want them to do? So in reality I can have any kind of points transferred not just BCV right?

No. That is not the way that transfers are supposed to work according to the POS, and, at any time they can choose to enforce the POS for a given transaction. They may not, and often times you are (wrongly, IMHO) allowed to do what you say, but I personally wouldn't want to risk that it will work.

 

[keys2kingdom]

OK good to know, I don't want to take any chances so if I want BCV points I'd better ask for BCV points. This is my first transfer and I want it to go smoothly and have the result that I am looking for. I don't want to overlook anything that might screw up the transaction.

 

[greenban]

No. That is not the way that transfers are supposed to work according to the POS, and, at any time they can choose to enforce the POS for a given transaction. They may not, and often times you are (wrongly, IMHO) allowed to do what you say, but I personally wouldn't want to risk that it will work.

As usual, Dr. P is spot on. I have had several transfers, where any resort points took on my home resort & UY. I have also had two where they have not. And whoever did the transfer, placed a note, so that other Advisors also knew the point status.

That is how it should work, and hopefully one day it will.

I have also had the other problem, where I transferred BCV points into my OKW account, and I needed them to stay as BCV. I let MS know this BEFORE and During the transfer. SO what happened? They became OKW points!.

Not a big problem, MS was able to manually correct that.

What was a major problem was the UY. The BCV went from an 04/04 UY to a 12/04 UY, and I could not book my July vacation! Transferred points cannot be borrowed (only banked) so that blocked the easy solution! This SNAFU took a supervisor and 3 days, and as inventory had become depleted while they were 'returning' my transferred points to their correct status, involved a waitlist, clown and several dead fish!

Hope this helps!

-Tony

 

[Dean]

Not a big problem, MS was able to manually correct that.

What was a major problem was the UY. The BCV went from an 04/04 UY to a 12/04 UY, and I could not book my July vacation! Transferred points cannot be borrowed (only banked) so that blocked the easy solution! This SNAFU took a supervisor and 3 days, and as inventory had become depleted while they were 'returning' my transferred points to their correct status, involved a waitlist, clown and several dead fish!

Hope this helps!

-Tony

And that is the problem with the manual work around. You can't do day by day bookings for high demand units.

 

[twotoohappy]

We really would like to stay at VWL but our points are at BWV & BCV. !

I booked at VWL for the 1st week in Dec. and I'm hoping to switch to BCV/BWV from 12/1 - 12/9 in a 2 bedroom. I feel your pain. I love VWL, but love being closer to Jellyrolls

 

[ccc002]

Let's assume I'm asking this question back in January '06.

Say I own BCV, but I don't have enough points for a week in Dec '06 (even with borrowing '07 points). I can borrow OKW ('06) from someone, but from what I understand, I'd have to wait until June to use those points. Since Dec is a popular month, I could get what I want in Jan , but might not in June .

If I can't get what I want in Dec '06, I'll go somewhere else . Here's my spin...Can I bank both the '05 BCV and OKW points and use them BOTH in Jan '07 for a Dec '07 BCV trip?