Do people really do this? Use 2 Magic Bands for 6 FP+??

[ArwenMarie]

No surprise we all know most people are unethical when no one is looking. The part I find funny is this lady thinks she is so intelligent that she was the first to think of all these "hacks" as she calles them. People make me laugh all that work for some FPs to IASW.

That's for SDFPs, which I agree, are highly dependent on the circumstances whether or not they are valuable. I think when you start leveling up with a second set of tickets, that's where you can start seeing some real benefits.

 

[LaurenT]

Disney is well aware that this is going on. Back over the summer there were reports that they would require MBs (or the account they're attached to) to be scanned into the park in order to work for FP, but it still hasn't happened ... It probably will eventually.
I also don't think it's making enough of an impact for Sisney to bother with it at this point .. They have bigger issues to deal with.

 

[ThistleMae]

I didn't scan that article very closely. But am I getting the idea that I can take our magic bands from a trip back in Sept 2013 that was booked on a completely different MDE account to the parks next month to use for extra fast passes?

I am not arguing the right or wrong, or even really planning on doing this (I am in the "that's a lot of work" camp), I just don't fully understand the idea.

Yeah, I did read the entire article and my understanding is that you can take those magic bands from 2013, within two years of issue, and use them to book fast passes at the kiosks. I don't entirely get how it works but apparently there are a whole lot of people out there figuring it out. I don't think you can use them to book fast passes online...but not so certain about that. I did read about the "fake booking scam" to get additional MB, which you can then use to book online. It does have a certain criminal element to it; spending all that time to figure out how to cheat/steal from Disney.

 

[IheartRapunzel]

It seems like wayyyy too much work.

 

[ThistleMae]

I truly think that if people are more vocal about this, and let their complaints be heard, Disney will put an end to it.

This is totally off topic...but I love your Avatar! So Cute!

 

[mom2rtk]

Yeah, I did read the entire article and my understanding is that you can take those magic bands from 2013, within two years of issue, and use them to book fast passes at the kiosks. I don't entirely get how it works but apparently there are a whole lot of people out there figuring it out. I don't think you can use them to book fast passes online...but not so certain about that. I did read about the "fake booking scam" to get additional MB, which you can then use to book online. It does have a certain criminal element to it; spending all that time to figure out how to cheat/steal from Disney.

You can only use them to pre-book online if there are tickets associated with them.

 

[ThistleMae]

Wow. Before you know it, people will be booking campsites they don't intend to use just so they can get another set of MB's and............

Oh, wait.


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Wow, two perfect quotes for this topic! Bravo!

 

[ThistleMae]

You can only use them to pre-book online if there are tickets associated with them.

So, if you have your MB's from last year, tickets associated, you can book FP+ online with those bands? I imagine you would need another MDE account as well? The plot thickens....

 

[mom2rtk]

So, if you have your MB's from last year, tickets associated, you can book FP+ online with those bands? I imagine you would need another MDE account as well? The plot thickens....

Yes, you would need another MDE account.

Any of this could change at any point in time if Disney flipped the switch and only accepted FPs associated with a ticket used to enter the park that day.

 

[staceyeileen]

So, if you have your MB's from last year, tickets associated, you can book FP+ online with those bands? I imagine you would need another MDE account as well? The plot thickens....

You wouldn't necessarily need another MDE account. You could just create a new persona in the same MDE account and associate your new reservation/ticket/band to that persona. I'm assuming you will have 2 tickets, one from last year and you'll be getting a new ticket with a new reservation for this year?

 

[Luckybee]

Also... Disney making or not making money will not impact most but the lack of room availability will.

When you try to get a reservation at value or tent site you find "sorry... all booked for that week". But of course there are rooms, but they will not open until 30/60 out because unscrupulous folk want the perks of on site but don't want to pay. So room inventory is wrong, you can't find room for your trip until very close to the date. That means you pay more and no discounts from Disney because they thought the rooms were booked.

Yes. Like most things out this nature the proponents think "I'm not hurting anyone!" ... only if you look.

Not to mention the one time, trip of a lifetime folks, who end up with no good FP because "gamers" have two headliners and four high level on the same day.

You misunderstood my post. What I am saying is that what you are describing is NOT a throwaway room. Even by name a throwaway room is a room booked and PAID for. And no that type of room doesn't open up 30/60 days before hand because it is booked and PAID for !

 

[MrInfinity]

Yeah, I did read the entire article and my understanding is that you can take those magic bands from 2013, within two years of issue, and use them to book fast passes at the kiosks. I don't entirely get how it works but apparently there are a whole lot of people out there figuring it out. I don't think you can use them to book fast passes online...but not so certain about that. I did read about the "fake booking scam" to get additional MB, which you can then use to book online. It does have a certain criminal element to it; spending all that time to figure out how to cheat/steal from Disney.

I'm really surprised the Dis does not prevent this type of content. People learned about DDP hacks, but those are not allowed to be spoken of. This seems strangely tolerated. So much so that the thread about it has a sticky that basically say they acknowledge that the morality if it is something likely to be questioned, and that to do so will be stricken. Very very strange.

 

[FigmentIsTheBest]

You misunderstood my post. What I am saying is that what you are describing is NOT a throwaway room. Even by name a throwaway room is a room booked and PAID for. And no that type of room doesn't open up 30/60 days before hand because it is booked and PAID for !

I agree. (That's why I started with - "Also...")

I just wanted to point out the other ramifications of this behavior. You post was just closest to the idea for me to latch on.

 

[JimmyV]

I'm really surprised the Dis does not prevent this type of content.

I don't pretend to know where the line is drawn, but the Moderators here have been consistent in their approach that if a loophole exists that Disney can easily plug, but chooses not to do so, then discussion of that loophole is fair game in the "Strategies" board. If a topic veers off into the arena of "breaking Disney rules", it is shut down. Here, there is apparently no rule against bringing in extra MBs for the day. At least not one that can be cited to in any Disney publication. It has been stated in this thread that CMs know about the practice and don't say a word about it. So I think that is why the Dis tolerates it. Same with Throwaway Rooms. Disney could put an end to them. But they don't.

 

[Luckybee]

I'm really surprised the Dis does not prevent this type of content. People learned about DDP hacks, but those are not allowed to be spoken of. This seems strangely tolerated. So much so that the thread about it has a sticky that basically say they acknowledge that the morality if it is something likely to be questioned, and that to do so will be stricken. Very very strange.

Because there is nothing wrong with the practice if one is speaking of true throwaways as opposed to what they have morphed into of late.
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[cakebaker]

Here, there is apparently no rule against bringing in extra MBs for the day. At least not one that can be cited to in any Disney publication.

This is not accurate. They do have policy against it in a couple of places at least. What is accurate is that, at least for now, they choose not to put anything in place that would keep someone from violating those policies.

"If you have multiple MagicBands or cards linked to your Disney account, you can continue to use as many as your wrists and pockets can carry. However, getting multiple MagicBands or cards does not give you multiple entitlements, such as additional FastPass+ selections or park admission. Also, once a MagicBand or card is linked to a person, it cannot be transferred to another person."

"Q.
Can other people use my MagicBand or card?

A.
No. Your MagicBand or card is unique to you and only you are authorized to access the benefits associated with it—including linked tickets, FastPass+ experiences, touch-to-pay purchases and other entitlements. Once a MagicBand or card is linked to your Disney account, it cannot be transferred to another person."


https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/passholders/multiple-bands-cards/

Just a factual clarification.

 

[JimmyV]

This is not accurate. They do have policy against it in a couple of places at least.

Thanks. (I don't follow this issue too closely). I wonder if the Moderators are aware of this, as this would seem to fall squarely within the "breaking Disney rules" board rules.

 

[Candleshoe]

... as long as you are talking about a real throwaway room/campsite(where one books and pays for a room for a legitimate amount of people and simply doesnt sleep there) ....

That's the only definition of a throwaway room. There are some people who seem to think Disney needs to do bed checks.

I don't hear ANY one getting up in arms when people book a value resort for Friday (or Friday and Saturday) before transferring to DVC because the DVC rates are so much higher on Friday and Saturday nights. And it's the same thing.

Booking one night onsite and then saying offsite is a split stay. Plain and simple.

People have their panties in a wad over it though.

Our first trip we did a split stay: 5 days at Ft. Wilderness, tent camping (we drove and brought our gear) and 3 days in a condo in Kissimmee. But on the 3rd day I had a bike accident and injured the ligaments in my knee. Centracare wanted me to go to the hospital but I kept it iced and used a wheelchair and ace bandage. Anyway we booked a couple of nights at Travelodge at the last minute. But HORRORS! We left our gear in the campsite and DID NOT EVEN SLEEP THERE. Holy mother of Mickey.

 

[soniam]

This is not accurate. They do have policy against it in a couple of places at least. What is accurate is that, at least for now, they choose not to put anything in place that would keep someone from violating those policies.

"If you have multiple MagicBands or cards linked to your Disney account, you can continue to use as many as your wrists and pockets can carry. However, getting multiple MagicBands or cards does not give you multiple entitlements, such as additional FastPass+ selections or park admission. Also, once a MagicBand or card is linked to a person, it cannot be transferred to another person."

"Q.
Can other people use my MagicBand or card?

A.
No. Your MagicBand or card is unique to you and only you are authorized to access the benefits associated with it—including linked tickets, FastPass+ experiences, touch-to-pay purchases and other entitlements. Once a MagicBand or card is linked to your Disney account, it cannot be transferred to another person."


https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/passholders/multiple-bands-cards/

Just a factual clarification.

This still doesn't apply to every case. If you buy MBs and setup an MDX account with no tickets or hotel reservation, then the system will allow you to get FP+ at the kiosk.

Also, there is nothing in your statement that says you are forbidden from getting extra FP+. It just says that it will not give you multiple entitlements with FP+ being an entitlement. I think it's more a statement of what the system does versus a violation by the customer.

I am not endorsing anything. I am just pointing out that this rule doesn't apply in all cases.

 

[cakebaker]

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This still doesn't apply to every case. If you buy MBs and setup an MDX account with no tickets or hotel reservation, then the system will allow you to get FP+ at the kiosk.

Also, there is nothing in your statement that says you are forbidden from getting extra FP+. It just says that it will not give you multiple entitlements with FP+ being an entitlement. I think it's more a statement of what the system does versus a violation by the customer.

I am not endorsing anything. I am just pointing out that this rule doesn't apply in all cases.

I really don't understand your reasoning, but doesn't matter. It's not my statement, it's Disney's and everyone is free to interpret it any way they want. Until Disney decides to stop it, it will continue so it really doesn't matter what the rules are, people are going to do it. I was just responding to the idea that they don't have any policy against using multiple bands to gain additional fastpasses and clearly, they do.