Do people really do this? Use 2 Magic Bands for 6 FP+??

[ArwenMarie]

I have two sets of magic bands. Used both on my first trip this year. Didn’t use the 2nd set at all on the second trip. It simply not worth it!
I did this mostly to see if I could! What I found out is that you use your time early morning to obtain the FPs. This time is better spent taking advantage of rope drop accessibility to rides. Mostly rides available for the 2nd set of FPs are rides that don’t need FP or some “used to be headliners” during Wishes or late in the day. ie At MK I could get BTM and space Mtn for late in the evening (actually during Wishes), Pooh late in the day, Dumbo in the afternoon, etc. Not even a Peter Pan. At HS maybe a Tower of Terror for late but no TSMM, RnR nothing not even late. At Epcot nothing much at all. No Soarin no test track. You could get spaceship earth, turtle talk, mission space was about the best and at not really good times either. Didn’t even try it at AK.
I’ve seen the post about the second set of MBs and think some people try it but I don’t think a lot of people keep trying it. It’s too much a pain and with little benefit. I don’t see it as having as much of an impact on other guest as you think. It should be an easy fix for Disney to remedy and I’m not sure why they have not. Probably because it’s not that big a priority!
I think the new FP+ system itself has more of an impact on wasted FPs than anything. I have numerous friends who got tired of trying to chase their 60 day old FP plans because their plans changed. So FPs were wasted. I had a late night (legitimately obtained) FP for spaceship earth. Plans changed, we wanted to take a boat to HS to pick up a 4th FP and get dinner. Found out I could not cancel my SE FP from my phone. Went to the kiosk only to find out I couldn’t cancel it there either. The systems been “a little glitchy” as the cm told me ( a common theme). Went to guest relations just to see what it would take to actually get it cancelled and they did cancel it. To do this took so much time we could not make dinner or additional FPs at HS. Went to the room and ate a sandwich. I would like to be courteous to other guest and cancel any FPs not to be used but I doubt I’ll go thru that much trouble again. And I bet I’m not the only one!
I would dare say more FPs are wasted by the “ethical” people than are obtained by us D-bags with a second set of MBs.

Wait, so you used two sets of MBs to get more SDFPs...But on the same trip, went through all of that trouble to cancel a legitimately-obtained late-night FP for Spaceship Earth, so much trouble that you missed your dinner and visit to a second park and ended up eating a sandwich in your room? I'm not sure I understand your thought process there?

I do agree that the benefit of SDFPs is debatable, based on what's left at that point. I think the prebooked ones (like using a family member's AP, or doing the whole thing with the room reservation) is where there is a benefit.

 

[dfb]

I'm happy with my one MB...pink...and looking forward to reserving my rides in advance. It sounds like the rides booked at the Kiosks are not prime times, from what folks above are saying. It will be interesting to watch people around the parks to see if they are swapping their wrist bands out for other wrist bands. It will be like a hidden Mickey game. THE LOOK AND SEE WHO SWAPS OUT BANDS GAME. Lol...people are crazy for fun! I'm sure Disney will find a fix at some point.

I have a MB that is a legitimate AP MB. I have another legitimate MB which was sent when I reserved my room. Although both were linked to my account my AP MB got me into the park and my room MB would get me into my room but neither would do both. Made two trips and wasted two hours at the front desk to get resolved only to be imformed that if I come back in the morning the concierge could help me. I expressed to them I did not come here to spend my time at a desk and I wore two legitimate MBs for the rest of my trip.

 

[dfb]

Wait, so you used two sets of MBs to get more SDFPs...But on the same trip, went through all of that trouble to cancel a legitimately-obtained late-night FP for Spaceship Earth, so much trouble that you missed your dinner and visit to a second park and ended up eating a sandwich in your room? I'm not sure I understand your thought process there?

I do agree that the benefit of SDFPs is debatable, based on what's left at that point. I think the prebooked ones (like using a family member's AP, or doing the whole thing with the room reservation) is where there is a benefit.

I did not not use the SDFPs on that day. The SE earth was the 3rd FP of the day. Pre booked and legitimately obtained. My plans changed, I was just trying to make a point of how difficult it was to cancel. I know it's not always difficult to cancel but I saw too many times, in my two trips, the system had glitches. I think a lot of FPs are wasted during scenarios like this!

 

[Luckybee]

In Disney's world, you have one MDX account and all of your bands are linked to that account. You do not have different stays and different tickets on different bands because nothing is stored on the bands; all the bands do is access back to your MDX account. Someone (or many someones) have figured out that a loophole may come into play when you have more than one MDX account. It's not having more than one band that gives you access to the loophole...it's having more than one account. Just because a guest has multiple bands does not mean they have multiple accounts.

I have seen persons on this board claiming to have two accounts, tickets linked to each account, and a throwaway room reservation on one account so they can book 2 sets of FPs at 60 days. Apparently you do not need to use a ticket on both accounts to enter the park before you redeem the fastpasses.

Oh if only it were so. We haven't used the 2 sets of bands thing but if it becomes that we are the only ones not I expect I'll rethink it. That said I expect Disney is totally uninterested in how many accts a person has . I say that because dh has 2 and I cannot get Disney to delete the 2nd. Let me explain. We have the Wishes Dessert Party booked for one evening in May. Now for the Dessert Party all ressies are at 6 pm (in our case the party is at 9 with fireworks at 10). We wanted to book bog for dinner (the same night)and lo and behold it comes up one morning at 6:00 am . I try and book the dinner and it tells me we have dinner booked already, which we don't we have the party 3 hours after the dinner we want. Wont let me book and the phone lines aren't open. I throw together a new mde and book BOG. Later I get it for a different night and I cancel the one booked on the 2nd mde . I call Disney to explain that we don't need the 2nd acct. She tells me not to cancel it in case we ever need it again. Huh? I then call tech support and ask them to cancel it( I wanted it cancelled to prevent any confusion). They say the same thing. I give up. So now we have 2 accts and it would therefore be real easy to do this but no one seems to care at Disney...lol. This btw was only 3 weeks ago !

 

[Laketravis]

Wow. Before you know it, people will be booking campsites they don't intend to use just so they can get another set of MB's and............

Oh, wait.


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[jimandami]

But the article did say the second magic bands didn't need a ticket attached to them. That is why I am confused.

You definitely DO NOT need to have a ticket attached to the second magic bands to book SDFP at a kiosk.

 

[I M Fearless]

There are so many glitches with MDE I think this is the last thing Disney will be spending money to fix.

And just to prove my point... I have booked not three but FOUR advanced fast passes on ONE dmx account.

Here's a screen shot showing it...

Obviously a glitch but I'm just saying Disney have bigger priorities which are much more visible to the average guest. I would imagine the new breed of FP super-users go unnoticed by 99% of other guests, and I would doubt Disney will throw large amounts of cash to fix it when there are more obvious flaws which need to be mended.

I think MM+ is so over budget they just want to make the best of it now with minimal additional expense.

 

[kaetra]

So all I have to do is book and cancel then I can get a 2nd set of Magic Bands to get Same-Day FP+ for Stitch, Carousel of Progress and The Tikki Room?!

Wow. Totally worth the effort. Totally.

 

[Networth]

No surprise we all know most people are unethical when no one is looking. The part I find funny is this lady thinks she is so intelligent that she was the first to think of all these "hacks" as she calles them. People make me laugh all that work for some FPs to IASW.

 

[lauradis]

Still blaming disney for creating this mess.

Front of the line passes should be an add on upcharge for onsite, ap, dvc guest only,

pre 1999 there where no fast passes unless if my disney history inccorrect you where vip guest, or turly handicapped.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

$$$ has nothing to do with this. If the people doing this are cancelling reservation #1 in order to get the extra bands, then their total OOP is simply whatever their actual vacation was going to cost. The people staying at the cheapest room at the cheapest Resort can do this.

Wait... what? So, no extra tickets are being bought? You can have bands that aren't tied to a ticket and use those while in the park to book additional fastpasses?

Can you do this with bands from a previous trip?!?

That's... a bug.

 

[may1787]

People will take advantage of loopholes. This isn't the first example of this. Throwaway room, anyone?

 

[Candleshoe]

Throwaway room, anyone?

Why yes, thank you, I believe I will! Please sir, may I have another?

 

[lauradis]

People will take advantage of loopholes. This isn't the first example of this. Throwaway room, anyone?

No thank you, sounds like a waste of time and money.

Wouldn't my time and money be better spent, relaxing on vacation. Planning the best time to go for my family during a slower time, if rides where the number one thing to me.

How about finding out what works best and just doing that. If I would have to guess I would say more then 60% of Disney guest are 3 times max in lifetime offenders.

 

[Networth]

Duplicate

 

[Maleficent Dragon]

... Alas, I doubt they ever will. Sometimes it seems Disney likes to enable this kind of behavior.

 

[Networth]

People will take advantage of loopholes. This isn't the first example of this. Throwaway room, anyone?

Don't you know that's completely ok and on the up and up because Disney hasn't stopped it yet...

 

[Luckybee]

Don't you know that's completely ok and on the up and up because Disney hasn't stopped it yet...

This isnt the throwaway thread right?? Oh goody now I can answer ....in relation to the comment above.....and imho never will as long as you are talking about a real throwaway room/campsite(where one books and pays for a room for a legitimate amount of people and simply doesnt sleep there) and not what it has sometimes morphed into. Disney makes money, the same as a 1 night stay off a throwaway, and Disney has been well aware of the concept for over a year now. Are there some who have taken it to a different level...yup...but that isnt a throwaway. Call it booking and cancelling, call it whatever but it isnt a throwaway. And whatever it is Disney doesnt make money off them so they might be a tad more concerned about that.

 

[jimandami]

Wait... what? So, no extra tickets are being bought? You can have bands that aren't tied to a ticket and use those while in the park to book additional fastpasses?

Can you do this with bands from a previous trip?!?

That's... a bug.

You can only use bands from a previous trip if they are connected to a different MDE account than the one you are using for your current trip. Example: you go on a trip with family members and then later go on a trip with just two of you. You can take the MB of the others and use them for SDFP. I would have thought it would be fairly easy for WDW to close this loophole like they did with standard FP but apparently not.

 

[FigmentIsTheBest]

This isnt the throwaway thread right?? Oh goody now I can answer ....in relation to the comment above.....and imho never will as long as you are talking about a real throwaway room/campsite(where one books and pays for a room for a legitimate amount of people and simply doesnt sleep there) and not what it has sometimes morphed into. Disney makes money, the same as a 1 night stay off a throwaway, and Disney has been well aware of the concept for over a year now. Are there some who have taken it to a different level...yup...but that isnt a throwaway. Call it booking and cancelling, call it whatever but it isnt a throwaway. And whatever it is Disney doesnt make money off them so they might be a tad more concerned about that.

Also... Disney making or not making money will not impact most but the lack of room availability will.

When you try to get a reservation at value or tent site you find "sorry... all booked for that week". But of course there are rooms, but they will not open until 30/60 out because unscrupulous folk want the perks of on site but don't want to pay. So room inventory is wrong, you can't find room for your trip until very close to the date. That means you pay more and no discounts from Disney because they thought the rooms were booked.

Yes. Like most things out this nature the proponents think "I'm not hurting anyone!" ... only if you look.

Not to mention the one time, trip of a lifetime folks, who end up with no good FP because "gamers" have two headliners and four high level on the same day.