Do people live in NYC hotels, eg the Carlyle?

[EsmeraldaX]

It is not all that uncommon for creepy men to hang out at single parents groups to try and pick up women.

In fact, that was the entire plot of the book/movie About a Boy.

 

[MosMom]

I agree that it sounds like he could be married.

 

[ilovepcot]

DH and I spent an entire winter in Washington, D.C. one year with his work. We were put up by his employer at a really nice hotel. I was FLOORED to find entire families actually living there year round. Downstairs in the dining room, you could see little kids having breakfast with their families, then see through the windows those same kids getting on a school bus! Blew us both away! We asked about this particular practice and were told there just isn't enough housing available and many families have to resort to this.

This deal with the Caryle though, that's another thing altogether. I would think most men would be "delighted" to take a woman to his room there and entertain her in style.

 

[vavalynn2]

She only has his cell phone, his mother's phone (here locally), knows where his mother lives, and maybe an email address. From what she tells me she thinks he lives at the Carlyle, so I guess she would have to look up that address.

So I took some good advice from 'swanmom' on this thread and called the hotel last night. I asked to leave a voicemail for one of their permanent residents. She asked for the name, I told her. Then she said, I am sorry Miss, but he already checked out. I said, I apologize and dont want to sound naive, but I was under the impression he lived there. She then said, The only record we have of him in the computer is from this past weekend, for two nights.

That speaks for itself. I was surprised she gave out so much information.

Facing the reality of having to talk with her definately sucks. But thank you swanmom for the idea that really seals the deal that this guy is trouble.

 

[EsmeraldaX]

Good luck talking to your friend.

I hope she gets away from this creep asap.

 

[SC Minnie]

I agree he is either married or hiding something. Either way not the kind of person you want a friend to me involved with.

 

[swanmom]

Glad I could help. (I book a lot of travel for our employees and often have to deal with hotel desk staff and administrative functions.) I know it will be difficult to talk to your friend but now, instead of guesses and circumstantial pieces of information, you'll have the actual facts that she can't ignore or explain away. Isn't it funny how we can close our eyes when we don't want to see something? You're a good friend to care enough for her to tackle the difficult job of trying to get her to see this.

 

[vavalynn2]

I am stopping by on Sunday afternoon to see her. She does not know why yet.

I am just going to do the best I can. I have spoke of my suspicions before, and will tell her that this is my last. What she elects to do after that is up to her. I just hope she can 'step outside of the box' and see this clearly and not all cloudy 'in love'.

I hope this works. I only want the best for her and will hate to see her get hurt emotionally, financially,.... etc.

Much thanks again to listening and giving good comments/advice.

It is times like these that I ask, 'arent i on vacation yet?' ?

 

[Hillbeans]

Originally posted by vavalynn2
I am stopping by on Sunday afternoon to see her. She does not know why yet.

I am just going to do the best I can. I have spoke of my suspicions before, and will tell her that this is my last. What she elects to do after that is up to her. I just hope she can 'step outside of the box' and see this clearly and not all cloudy 'in love'.

I hope this works. I only want the best for her and will hate to see her get hurt emotionally, financially,.... etc.

Much thanks again to listening and giving good comments/advice.

It is times like these that I ask, 'arent i on vacation yet?' ?

You're a great friend. Maybe you should go into PI work!! I know sometimes you can "shoot the messenger" but it's better she hears it from you than his wife. Why in the world would someone do that to a person who lost their husband? What sickos in this world...

 

[adamak]

You're doing the right thing. Regardless of what he's hiding, he definitely is a liar. And that alone should be a big warning sign. I hope your friend will listen to you. But like you said, it's all up to her.

 

[Hillbeans]

Bumping for any updates on how this ended up??????

 

[vavalynn2]

The update is a postponement unfortunately. My sister has a friend from nyc who has a cousin (i know it sounds ridculous) who is a pi. We gave him the info we had on him and he was supposed to get back to us by Friday. He had too much work to do but will call by tomorrow night.

I wanted to get it over with and thought that info that he did not live in the hotel was enough. My sister and husband said I should wait for info. Who knows what else is going on? the more facts the better I guess. I hope it works.

So as I post, it is still bothering me. And I will sure to give you the update when I confront her. Who knows what else this guy will find.???

 

[OceanAnnie]

This is really an interesting read! I bet your friend will flip when she finds out about his lie(s). You are a good friend to help her before she is in too deep. He's no good. And it sure makes you wonder what else he's lied about. And why.

I hope she runs as soon as you tell her.

Please keep us posted!

 

[Garlic n' Gealic]

Yes, people absolutley live permanently at the Carlye Hotel located on Madison Avenue in NYC. It is not uncommon...but it is for those with lots of $$$$

Beautiful hotel---they have great desserts, and Bobby Short's caberet show is the best--a must see!

 

[DMickey28]

I am very interested in learning how this turns out. It WAS/IS like a LIFETIME movie without the commericals and teh actors could be whoever I wanted!!

 

[vavalynn2]

Well, here is the update, wish it were something different.

I spoke with her at length last night. When I led up to my moment of telling her the truth (he does not live there, I called and there is no perm resident with that name). She then said, "He LIVED there. He doesn't anymore. I don't know where he said he lived now, but he lived there this past June." We then went off on a million tangents on why I don't trust him from his vague job to his intentions in the middle of nowhere when he has NYC. She defended every bit of it.

It is obviously too late. No matter what I said, she gave her 'logical' response. I am almost starting to wonder things like, does she really know what he does and maybe it is something she does not want to share (legal/illegal, the 'adult' business, who knows?) and that is why we don't know.

The PI (a friend who was doing a favor) could not come up with much with only his name and his Carlyle address. All we know is that he has not been arrested in NYC or NY state. Well, that is of course under the name we know him as.

Call me paranoid, but I just don't trust the guy. I really hope my friend proves us wrong because there is nothing we can do. I gave it one shot and she was not receptive to any of my concerns. We then had to agree to disagree. I said what I had to say, and now I can only hope for the best.

Thank you for all of your concerns. Let's just hope my friend figures this out on her own, or there are some really good explantions we just don't know yet on why this guy is so sketchy.

 

[OceanAnnie]

Any updates??

 

[SC Minnie]

Hopefully you at least put some doubts in her head even while she was defending him. Maybe she will look at what he does and says a little closer. You did what you could do and pray that her eyes are opened.

 

[vavalynn2]

I went digging in my posts to find this to further respond. It has been some years later from my posts and much has changed.

The man claimed to be a venture capitalist and my friend willingly gave him her savings in the bank, >50,00. She also added him to her credit cards. It became terrible, over 80,000 was accrued. Awful really.

Once she invested all of this, he disappeared off the map. He would call now and again and would make promises to return the money and never did.

Years later, this friend is in bankrupcy because of all of this.

It really was like a Lifetime movie, but it was my friend's life.

Why post now? I was too angry when I found all of this out and will admit I am still angry. Issues related to all of his come up all of the time. She would now like to buy a new car, but will unlikely get approved for a loan because of the bankrupcy. Devastating really.

Final thoughts- make good healthy choices and listen to your friends!!!

 

[chloelovesdisney]

Sorry, that's terrible what happened. I agree, listen to your trusted friends when they are warning you a man is bad news!