Do I have this right?

[bakerworld]

When I bought SSR, AK was a slight premium, and I wish I had bought it. Now, the price difference is too much. If you could manage a value studio now and then (almost impossible), it would maybe offset the price difference.

If you're using this for pure SAP and don't care about priority, it's hard to argue with the old classic: SSR. Especially at the crazy low buy in right now.

Exception would be if you think you can make club level work. You get two days access with one night stay. So, if you could feed enough people for enough time, and don't mind the split stay, club level is not impossible, especially when you just want one night at the start/end of the trip.

From looking at the listings the price per point of AK and SSR seem very comparable. Some are as high as a $20 difference but there are many that are the same or $5 difference. We've never dealt with resale so it may be that I'm missing something because I always wonder why there's a preference for SSR over any other resort when it's so easy to reserve SSR, even the preferred locations, a short time out.

 

[Sandisw]

From looking at the listings the price per point of AK and SSR seem very comparable. Some are as high as a $20 difference but there are many that are the same or $5 difference. We've never dealt with resale so it may be that I'm missing something because I always wonder why there's a preference for SSR over any other resort when it's so easy to reserve SSR, even the preferred locations, a short time out.

For us, when deciding for SAP, we went with the resort that if we were stuck, would be the one we would be okay at. AKV was definitely not it...and why we would neve buy there...I just stayed one night in a CL room and while access to CL was nice...had always wanted to try...it definitely did not outweigh it being there.

So, while some really don't care where they stay, I do think it is important to make sure that what you buy isn't a place you would not be happy with...

I also think that SSR being near DS does give it an edge because you do have lots of options for food and shopping that you don't at a place like AKV

 

[RoseGold]

From looking at the listings the price per point of AK and SSR seem very comparable.

SSR has many contracts <100, which is what I paid in 2019. And there are TONS on the market, so you should be able to get any contract you want near that rate. Now is the time to get a deal on SSR, for sure.

AKL is listing $15-20 more than that. Worth it if you want priority, but not if it's useless. That's a lot of money on a $100 contract. This is a tighter decision if it's $95 or $105, but that's still a 10% premium, plus $1 higher dues, a 15% premium.

 

[bakerworld]

For us, when deciding for SAP, we went with the resort that if we were stuck, would be the one we would be okay at. AKV was definitely not it...and why we would neve buy there...I just stayed one night in a CL room and while access to CL was nice...had always wanted to try...it definitely did not outweigh it being there.

So, while some really don't care where they stay, I do think it is important to make sure that what you buy isn't a place you would not be happy with...

I also think that SSR being near DS does give it an edge because you do have lots of options for food and shopping that you don't at a place like AKV

We ended up with Kidani without ever intending to stay. LOL We owned there 3 years before we finally booked a 1night stay pre-cruise. Once I discovered the value villa deal we started to stay there whenever we weren't doing parks. Then '20-'21 we stayed there a lot because I hadn't renewed our AP's so our park visits were limited to 1D. For us the AP restriction was a learning experience of knowing how much we could enjoy ourselves at the resorts, getting to know the employee/bartenders, plus taking advantage of value or standard villas (and no, I have no idea why when we spent the days at the parks we were spending points on high value villas).

Now I am one of 'those' people who don't get the attraction of OKW. AK there are two pool bars and three interior bars while SSR does have two decent pool bars while OKW's only bar is that Suitcase. Yes, SSR does have excellent access to the Springs and a huge series of fun places to enjoy. Have I given us away? LMAO

 

[sethschroeder]

I don't want to spend that kind of money and be at OKW or SSR is what I cam down to. BWV and then later RIV is where we own.

We have booked other resorts but I know for a fact I can always get BWV or RIV at minimum.

 

[peder]

I personally would never purchase a contract with the intention of staying out of my home resort. Availability at 7 months for the timeframes that we want to travel is always limited. If we can some day use our direct Riviera points elsewhere because it just all works out, then great! But I wouldn't build that into your purchase decision.

We have used points rentals and points transfers with great luck. If I really want to stay in a non-Riviera resort, I will continue to go that route rather than use the points I own.

 

[tom1944]

We purchased SSR as SAP points, but I also knew that my wife and I would frequently do limited or no park vacations so the access to Disney Springs was the determining factor to buy there. Years where we plan park visits I would most likely book at a resort near a park or a split stay.


Now that it looks like the restricted resorts will move past Riviera alone buying direct points becomes more likely. How many points and if we buy in stages are still to be determined.

We might buy enough points to use the bank borrow and current year accumulation to use the direct points in a 3-year cycle, so the cost is not as high. We can always add more if we see we need them.

 

[lilsonicfan]

It does seem from the ROFR thread that AKV is being sold at sub $100pp pricing, of course not all the time. On the whole, SSR seems to be selling at maybe $10pp cheaper. If you're buying 150 points , that's $1,500 for three more years of points (plus 3 more years of dues, plus possibly higher dues anyway compared to SSR). It could be a decent value.

SSR still made the most sense for me at a price point that I don't think AKV will reach ... yet(?). The 1BR at SSR with its refurbished rooms, queen murphy bed, is a great option for us, as we are 5 and some studios/some 1BRs don't work for us. Not too hard on the point value as well. If that's where we ended up staying, I would be okay with that.

 

[disneyfan123]

Not sure where their resale value stands these days, but you may want to consider CCV over SSR for SAP. It has a much longer contract, so while you will pay more upfront, it will last for years more, and is a more desirable resort.

 

[bbeagle]

I was looking at DVC resale sites, and because of all the varying resort end dates, the $/per Point column really doesn't matter unless you're comparing the SAME resort.

For example, 100 point contracts, I'll see a Vero Beach at $75/point, then a Polynesian at $160, then a Beach Club at $170.
In the Vero Beach contract, it's got 18 years to go, you get 1800 more points.
In the Beach Club contact, it's got 18 years to go, you get 1800 more points.
In the Polynesian contract, it's got 42 more years, you get 4200 more points.

So, if there was a column with $/point but it used the points left in the entire contract, not just for one year... you'd have....

Vero Beach contract: $4.17 a point ($7,500 / 1800)
Beach Club contract: $9.44 a point ($16,000 / 1800)
Polynesian contract: $3.81 a point ($15,000 / 4200)

So, for 'sleep around points', the Polynesian contract is actually the better deal.

(not counting dues - could add dues years x this years dues as a relative number)

Vero Beach contract: $17.02 a point ($7,500 + (18 * 1285)) / 1800)
Beach Club contract: $17.06 a point ($16,000 + (18 * 817)) / 1800)
Polynesian contract: $11.52 a point ($15,000 + (42 * 795)) / 4200)

Now it shows that the Vero Beach and Beach Clubs are really priced almost the same....
and for 'sleep around points', the Polynesian contract is the better deal.

Those people buying Vero Beach as it's 'really cheap' need to look at the numbers. They should actually be listed at MUCH cheaper than $75/point.

 

[RichVIII]

I would also say, the more points you can purchase - the more flexibility you have. 1BRs are easier to book if you have the points. And before someone screams, they are typically not as good of a value. Larger contracts also typically go for less money. Agree with others, several resorts have a much longer deed and are not that much more.

 

[TheDailyMoo]

Taking in everything that people here in the know have mentioned. Seems it's not exactly as cut and dry as buy the cheapest points and find the best location 7 months out. Although to be fair summer is our main travel season and will be for the foreseeable future so it seems it gives the most availability at 7 months out. That doesn't include wait lists for the more desirable resorts. I'm also wondering if BWV or the other 2042 resorts will start to decline hard in price shortly considering the lifespan. If the price is right that would really be ideal as the next 18 years would be prime Disney vacationing. At the right resale price I'd be fine knowing it's basically prepaying for the next 18 or so years.

Looking into purchasing DVC is more intense than retirement planning.

 

[LittleBitGoofy]

Taking in everything that people here in the know have mentioned. Seems it's not exactly as cut and dry as buy the cheapest points and find the best location 7 months out. Although to be fair summer is our main travel season and will be for the foreseeable future so it seems it gives the most availability at 7 months out. That doesn't include wait lists for the more desirable resorts. I'm also wondering if BWV or the other 2042 resorts will start to decline hard in price shortly considering the lifespan. If the price is right that would really be ideal as the next 18 years would be prime Disney vacationing. At the right resale price I'd be fine knowing it's basically prepaying for the next 18 or so years.

Looking into purchasing DVC is more intense than retirement planning.

That's how we felt about BCV. I know it's got a shorter life with just 18 years left, but we bought it to enjoy that location and Stormalong Bay with our kids (both elementary school age now). By the time it expires we won't have that same need anymore and having it drop off won't be the worst. Getting nearly two decades of use ain't bad!

Now our VGF purchase, that's for us parents to enjoy and we'll hopefully ride that into the sunset.

 

[RichVIII]

Taking in everything that people here in the know have mentioned. Seems it's not exactly as cut and dry as buy the cheapest points and find the best location 7 months out. Although to be fair summer is our main travel season and will be for the foreseeable future so it seems it gives the most availability at 7 months out. That doesn't include wait lists for the more desirable resorts. I'm also wondering if BWV or the other 2042 resorts will start to decline hard in price shortly considering the lifespan. If the price is right that would really be ideal as the next 18 years would be prime Disney vacationing. At the right resale price I'd be fine knowing it's basically prepaying for the next 18 or so years.

Looking into purchasing DVC is more intense than retirement planning.

All the great advice, we did forget to mention things like add-on-itus. We thought our only time to go Disney was X time of the year. Well…we got DVC and we were like, oh wait, let’s go for a long weekend. Oh wait…we should buy an annual pass. Gosh, we want to go to this festival or that festival. Or this even or that event. We don’t have to rush to every park since we go often. Let’s go at the Holiday’s. Easter might be fun. How about those fireworks around the 4th of July. Let’s try this new tour. Wait…we need more points!

So after all these years, kids getting older, different jobs, and things changing, our original plan has long since sunset. Ha ha ha. Best of luck, you will be happy when you finally do it.

 

[cdirazonian]

All the great advice, we did forget to mention things like add-on-itus. We thought our only time to go Disney was X time of the year. Well…we got DVC and we were like, oh wait, let’s go for a long weekend. Oh wait…we should buy an annual pass. Gosh, we want to go to this festival or that festival. Or this even or that event. We don’t have to rush to every park since we go often. Let’s go at the Holiday’s. Easter might be fun. How about those fireworks around the 4th of July. Let’s try this new tour. Wait…we need more points!

So after all these years, kids getting older, different jobs, and things changing, our original plan has long since sunset. Ha ha ha. Best of luck, you will be happy when you finally do it.

Yes..All of this…then the grand kids come along and it’s all new & exciting again thru their eyes and you get (want) to do everything over again..and again.
and again

 

[we"reofftoneverland]

I was looking at DVC resale sites, and because of all the varying resort end dates, the $/per Point column really doesn't matter unless you're comparing the SAME resort.

For example, 100 point contracts, I'll see a Vero Beach at $75/point, then a Polynesian at $160, then a Beach Club at $170.
In the Vero Beach contract, it's got 18 years to go, you get 1800 more points.
In the Beach Club contact, it's got 18 years to go, you get 1800 more points.
In the Polynesian contract, it's got 42 more years, you get 4200 more points.

So, if there was a column with $/point but it used the points left in the entire contract, not just for one year... you'd have....

Vero Beach contract: $4.17 a point ($7,500 / 1800)
Beach Club contract: $9.44 a point ($16,000 / 1800)
Polynesian contract: $3.81 a point ($15,000 / 4200)

So, for 'sleep around points', the Polynesian contract is actually the better deal.

(not counting dues - could add dues years x this years dues as a relative number)

Vero Beach contract: $17.02 a point ($7,500 + (18 * 1285)) / 1800)
Beach Club contract: $17.06 a point ($16,000 + (18 * 817)) / 1800)
Polynesian contract: $11.52 a point ($15,000 + (42 * 795)) / 4200)

Now it shows that the Vero Beach and Beach Clubs are really priced almost the same....
and for 'sleep around points', the Polynesian contract is the better deal.

Those people buying Vero Beach as it's 'really cheap' need to look at the numbers. They should actually be listed at MUCH cheaper than $75/point.

The thing about Vero beach is the market has priced it according to comparative beach hotels. If you want to stay on the beach in Florida it’s a pretty good deal. But I agree that it’s an awful deal if you are using those points to sleep around within the Disney system.