Do DVCers dislike RCI traders?

[krmlaw]

Honest answers greatly appreciated. I "know" a few DVCers from these boards, and it seems like they arent happy that non-DVCers from RCI can trade in ...

I guess I understand why, considering the low price some of us non-DVCers have paid for their timeshares on the resale market ...

Your honest opinions are welcomed

 

[Deb & Bill]

Nah, they just hate seeing DVC villas for rent on the regular WDW website because someone traded out to a non-DVC Disney stay.

If you have a nice trader and can get someone to take your stay, you are entitled to a nice DVC stay. Enjoy your Disney trip.

 

[AuntTink]

It does not matter to me that anyone gets a better deal than me. In fact, that's a person I probably need to get to know to learn something from them. It would not be in my best interest to dislike you. I am happy for you!

Welcome to Disney and DVC!

 

[missy2217]

What actually irked me about RCI traders was that they have access to our resorts before we do. For example I own at SSR and in order for me to get into BWV I have try and get in at 7 months. In the meanwhile someone with RCI may have already been able to swap in at 11-10-9-8 months. I actually own a RCI timeshare as well and was able to book a week at the Boardwalk using my RCI week. So I just banked my DVC points and am going to HHI instead this summer

 

[CarolMN]

What actually irked me about RCI traders was that they have access to our resorts before we do. For example I own at SSR and in order for me to get into BWV I have try and get in at 7 months. In the meanwhile someone with RCI may have already been able to swap in at 11-10-9-8 months. I actually own a RCI timeshare as well and was able to book a week at the Boardwalk using my RCI week. So I just banked my DVC points and am going to HHI instead this summer

If you must be irked, please be irked at DVC/DVD. That's who deposited the time into RCI. Plus, the time they deposited was probably owned by the developer. DVC members wouldn't have access to that anyway.

Have fun at HHI!

 

[Brian Noble]

DVC members wouldn't have access to that anyway.

A Member who owned at that resort and was exchanging out would.

My experience as an exchanger has been just fine. There are a few Member-only perks that you are not eligible for (internet and valet parking, for example) but otherwise you'll be treated just like everyone else staying there.

 

[CarolMN]

A Member who owned at that resort and was exchanging out would.

I must be missing something. Members do not have access to inventory owned by the developer.

 

[gkrykewy]

If you have an RCI property that can trade into DVC, more power to you! I don't think there are terribly many.

 

[Dean]

To be honest, I think there are some here that are not especially happy to see people trade in. You'll usually see some reason associated but the bottom line is that I believe some are elitist when it comes to DVC and quite a bit more than would actually say so. Often it's related to "how come a non member can get something that I wanted and can't get" but there are others that simply think DVC is better than everything else and in some aspects they may be correct. Still, it shouldn't matter to you, if you can trade in, do so and enjoy it. DVC is actually quite accommodating to exchangers overall often treating them the same or better than members who happen to exchange in.

 

[Dean]

I must be missing something. Members do not have access to inventory owned by the developer.

No but if a member actually exchanges, DVC often uses the home resort priority of that members points to secure the exchange that is given to RCI thus depositing that unit in RCI before it was available to other members that do not own at that resort. Those who have been around very long are likely aware that to me a member at a given resort should be held far above non owners who happen to be DVC members. Thus an exchange, high demand home resort rental, etc are more worthy uses than would be a non owner member of the system trying to reserve.

 

[bwvBound]

Oh, sure! I hate myself every time I trade into DVC!

 

[utahkennedys]

Oh, sure! I hate myself every time I trade into DVC!

Agreed! We own DVC and trade in with RCI (and formerly with II) and it works great for us to do both.

 

[krmlaw]

thansk guys. i feel a bit better. im been on the planning boards, but not telling anyone i was trading in! haha.

i have gotten our TS off ebay for literally pennies, and did the closings myself, so Im pretty proud that we havent spent alot of money on TS

I would love to own at DVC, but when i can buy an RCI trader off ebay that can pull DVC for literally less than $500 (including all closing fees), than i cant justify spending the $$$$ on DVC.

We cant WAIT to go to Disney now!!!

 

[wulfekamp]

Get yourself a set of mouse ears and a refillable mug. Some really nice people here.

 

[CarolMN]

No but if a member actually exchanges, DVC often uses the home resort priority of that members points to secure the exchange that is given to RCI thus depositing that unit in RCI before it was available to other members that do not own at that resort. Those who have been around very long are likely aware that to me a member at a given resort should be held far above non owners who happen to be DVC members. Thus an exchange, high demand home resort rental, etc are more worthy uses than would be a non owner member of the system trying to reserve.

Thanks, now I get it, lol.

FWIW, I still think the majority of the RCI deposits are made on behalf of the developer. For example, if I understood the process correctly, the incentive RCI vacations members received for recent purchases/add-ons were secured with developers points. Members never had access to that inventory.

I personally don't have a problem with DVC using the member's home resort priority period to pick & deposit the DVC week the member has to use to secure an exchange. I suspect if DVC didn't do it that way, members would not be able to get some of the more desirable properties in RCI.

All that said, we have not exchanged and have no plans to exchange so I really don't have any skin in this game. But I agree that members who own at a resort (whether they use their points for themselves, rent their points or elect an option in one of the Collections) have priority over members who use the 7 month booking window. That's just the way the system was designed.

 

[Dean]

Thanks, now I get it, lol.

FWIW, I still think the majority of the RCI deposits are made on behalf of the developer. For example, if I understood the process correctly, the incentive RCI vacations members received for recent purchases/add-ons were secured with developers points. Members never had access to that inventory.

I personally don't have a problem with DVC using the member's home resort priority period to pick & deposit the DVC week the member has to use to secure an exchange. I suspect if DVC didn't do it that way, members would not be able to get some of the more desirable properties in RCI.

All that said, we have not exchanged and have no plans to exchange so I really don't have any skin in this game. But I agree that members who own at a resort (whether they use their points for themselves, rent their points or elect an option in one of the Collections) have priority over members who use the 7 month booking window. That's just the way the system was designed.

With II, DVC never did developer deposits and I've seen no indications they are now. What they are apparently doing is giving RCI villas that can be rented. I don't know the exact arrangement, whether they are giving them on consignment, selling them outright to RCI, or giving them to RCI as a means of payment related to the changeover. Developer deposits are traditionally freebies (or nearly so) to the exchange company to get access to fresh meat. Since DVC does not actively market nor solicit tours to exchangers (wrongly IMO), there is absolutely no reason for them to do developer deposits unless they are simply committed to filling a room which they have never done in the past as a freebie.

I would not personally look at the recent sales incentives as a developer deposit but rather a member use. In reality, given the restrictions associated, they are likely free weeks RCI has given DVC to use that are generated by higher demand member deposits. They are likely, in effect, bonus weeks. Or they could be short notice inventory that DVC deposited that would have gone unused, they would act similar with somewhat similar restrictions.

 

[gkrykewy]

i have gotten our TS off ebay for literally pennies, and did the closings myself, so Im pretty proud that we havent spent alot of money on TS

I would love to own at DVC, but when i can buy an RCI trader off ebay that can pull DVC for literally less than $500 (including all closing fees), than i cant justify spending the $$$$ on DVC.

I think this is a pretty transparent "why are you suckers paying 20x more than you have to?" thread, but I would still be curious which viable traders you're able to acquire for that price -- might recommend to my TS owning relatives who used to be able to trade in via II, but now cannot (although I suppose DVC could switch back to II at some point).

 

[Brian Noble]

I think there are some here that are not especially happy to see people trade in. You'll usually see some reason associated but the bottom line is that I believe some are elitist when it comes to DVC and quite a bit more than would actually say so.

That may be true. But, unless the OP stalks folks at the pool telling them about her cheap RCI trader (hint hint) it won't be an issue. Except for a few modest discounts and perks, the staff will treat you exactly the same as an owner or cash guest.

gkrykewy: places that seem pretty reliable are coastal summer, either California, Cape Cod, or mid-Atlantic, excepting the last week or two of August. Peak-demand inland resorts are hit or miss---some years yes, some years no. Have your relatives consider a dual-enrolled resort for flexibility.

An exchagne guest has to be flexible about either when they visit, where they stay, or both. You either need to have a pretty broad range of dates that you are willing to accept, or you have to be willing to stay offsite if a DVC exchage doesn't come through. If you aren't willing to stay offsite, and you want to plan specific dates (especially during peak-demand time) there's no substitute for owning.

Edited to add: even more broadly, an exchange guest can never assume that what worked last year will still work this year. Trade power, exchange affiliation, etc. etc. change all the time. In the world of exchange, nothing lasts forever.

 

[TammyAlphabet]

I am still getting exactly what I paid for when I signed up for DVC. I have a 1 bedroom Boardwalk View for Dec. 26 to Jan. 3. I think it would be hard to get that time frame with a trade.

I also have a Hilton Head week that I will be depositing for trade in RCI. It is a summer week but I have no guarantees that I will be able to get what I want or need anywhere.

So there is alot of RCI availability now for DVC, who knows if that will continue? There is certainly more than there used to be in II.

So I guess I am happy that I will be able to get what i paid for, and that is all that I need.

 

[TammyAlphabet]

That may be true. But, unless the OP stalks folks at the pool telling them about her cheap RCI trader (hint hint) it won't be an issue.

Well, every DVC pool I have been in there was at least one person talking about how cheaply they rented their unit and how Disney will never get their money for points. Which always cracks me up.