Divorced w/ kids = one week at each parents house *LONG*

My parents divorced when I was in the 4th grade, but I always lived with my mom.

My DH, on the other hand, moved around a lot. It wasn't a set schedule, but whenever he wanted to move in w/ the other parent, his mom/dad always agreed. I know DH was very thankful of that. DH's dad died when he was still young, so he didn't have to move around for a very long time.
 
Hi its me the OP .. the $19 was if he cuts his payment in half and if none at all its the negitive 300 .. right now I have about 250 for groc./car ins/ and oil . which is do-able. He can legally cut payments till we go to court and re-evaluate..
I am not opposed to joint custody and hate to have made people feel that way however I feel that I have given most everything when he left and he reaps all the rewards . as far as the type of man - bad cheating husband , great dad - always pays on time and 99% of the time the amount he is supposed to .
I just hate when he gangs up on me leaving me no say and no choices which he does about every 3 years since I have known him . I do want what is best for my kids as I am sure he does but I am not sure bouncing from house to house is the best . again thanks for the advise . and I am not dad bashing and nor do I think anyone is bashing me

editted to say : I am signing off for the night as I am tired and my head hurts ! going strait to bed after a peice of toast .
 
What a crud, he never ever should have asked the kids before you. I have students who do this, I feel it is too much back and forth and not enough continuity in parenting. I think they need a home base and maybe give him more visitation during the week? Sounds like he spends plenty of time with them and wants to be a good dad. Good luck.
 
we did the every other week thing with my parents, we were with my Mom one week, and my Dad the next, and during the summer it was two weeks with Mom and two weeks with Dad, we wouldn't have had it any other way, we would have hated it to only see our Dad every other weekend and one night a week, it was not too much change for us, too much change would have suddenly not seeing our Dad that much, you need to think of your kids not yourself, most divorced parents I know, including my parents "think" they are thinking of the kids when they are really thinking of themselves, if you were thinking of them you wouldn't have mentioned that two of the reasons you didn't want them to do it as the whole house to yourself and the child support aspects. I think you should try it out and see how it goes, if your child wants to live with his Dad more and he is not a horrible father then trying it and seeing how it works is what is best for the child, and how do you know that he brought this up to the child, maybe the child went to him and and said they wanted to live with him more and that is how it came up, I don't think it is an unreasonable thing for a child and parent to talk about before talking to the other parent, you can always go back to what you have now if it doesn't work out.

If you can't tell, I am the child of a very bitter divorce, no attacks meant here, as the oldest child of three with two parents who didn't think of us, and who wouldn't talk to each other, and still haven't talked in 12 years, I know what it is like to be the child you are talking about, you need to really think about the child, and if this is something they really want, then it might be best for them to try, if it works out then it was the best thing for them, and if it doesn't work out then they can go back to the scedule they have now and you will be the good guy for at least letting them try it out.
 

I don't get it.....why should the kids be the one's uprooted and go from house to house? Would the adults like to be shuffled from house to house? Studies do not show this is good for the kids!

How about this....tell your ex you will move into a relative's house for "his" week, while he comes to His Children's House to spend the week with them. Bet he would not want to live in one house 1 week and 1 the next. So why make the kids do it? After all it is not the kids fault that the adults could not make the marriage work, why put them thru more upheaval.

I agree with the poster who said she will say a prayer she is never in this situation. No easy answers, but I would fight it if it had to come to that.
 
My parents divorced when I was in college, so there were no custody issues, but every other issue is still there. My dad is the best, I couldn't imagine only seeing him a few days a month when I was growing up.

But, and I haven't read every post (most of them though)......here's a thought........

And this is serious...

Let the kids live in one house all of the time, then you spend one week there, one week at another house, and your ex-husband is on a opposite schedule.

Is that confusing? Basically, instead of the kids moving, you and your ex move.

I know the girlfriend and her kids complicate things, but it's definitely more "kid-friendly" and still has the same outcome.

If you trust her enough to be a "parent figure", she shouldn't have any trouble having you be a "parent figure" for her kids, or they could go to their dad's.

And I know this isn't really a laughing matter (remember my parents are divorced), but if the ex-husband is around, maybe the two of you could pose as one parent team, and your ex and his girlfriend could pose as a parent team.

The best thing to remember is to stay friendly with your ex!

Both of my parents remarried, I am married with two young children and guess what! If you want to see us for Christmas, birthdays, etc., you show up at our house at the appointed time, everyone at the same time. I don't play games (I'm an adult so I don't have to now).

So keep in mind way down the road that what you do now might influence how and when you get to see your grandkids.........luckily my parents saw the writing on the wall and sucked it up in order to see their grandkids.

My kids are still too young to understand divorce and re-marriage, DD just knows she has a grandma & papaw, and grandpa & grandma and they all love her to pieces and she loves them too!

(You should see Christmas around here, instead of trying to "buy" my sister and me, they do it to the kids. It comes off much more civil too.

Good luck! The decisions you make now could have lasting effects.
 
My neice's new husband has this arrangement you mentioned and it works great for them.

Seeing the inequity my BIL gets with his divorce with having his sons, I hate to say this, but I think you are being a little selfish. I know it is hard not to be around your children in your big home by yourself, but doggonit, is is hard on his end of it, also!!!!!! (I also do not have the time to read all the pages, so if you have written your husband is not a good dad or does not pay child support or hurts the kids, I apologize!)

You can find other things to do during this time the kids are with their father like volunteer work or clubs, stuff like that. You can get an adorable pup for your home to keep you company during the empty times.

It is important for the kids to have equal time with their father, also. This time will turn to a parent time rather than fun time. The kids will probably respect you more rather than being the total parent figure doing the time outs, punishment, homework, etc. Your ex will probably respect you much more, also. Divorce turns so bad sometimes. Give a little; your children will see the giving and maybe they will be better individuals for that (which I am sure you have THEM as the most important part of this divorce, right???)

If I sound rough, I am really sorry. I have seen the pain my BIL has gone through. Divorces should be more fair for both parents.
 
I called him at the crack of dawn this morning because there wasn't a whole lot of sleeping being done at my house - he is up and out of the house by 5 to see how the talk went with the kids and he said DS said Yea Cool and DD was like Ok .. ( she has a bad habit of saying what ever she thinks we want her to say ) so I said Ok fine you win .. so starting on Sun 2/1 he will have them for a week bring them back that next Sun and I will have them for a week .. I have said its just for a trial period of 2 month and at that time we will look and see if its really working if yes then we go to court and rework all the documents ( wording for where kids live and support ) and if no then we right back to the way it was . I am making appointments with their teacher and asking that the counslers are there too along with me and Ex and kids to discuss it too. so its a done deal for a trail period of 2 month. Thanks again for all the support and advise you have all given me everyone post made me look again at if its BEST FOR THE CHILDREN and while I am not sure it is we would never know if I just out and out said NO because I didnt want it..

as to the question about the parents moving around .. I DO NOT want the girlfriend and her kids living at my house for a week and I am sure she would like to live at her house - by the way her boys dad lives in FLA so they don't see him hardly at all but didn't have a good relationship when he was around here .

Oh and I do have a dog - a 2.5 year old beagle . he is a good boy but still it hard to carry on conversations you know .

Thanks again Michelle
 
Originally posted by bigsis1970
so I said Ok fine you win .. so starting on Sun 2/1 he will have them for a week bring them back that next Sun and I will have them for a week .. I have said its just for a trial period of 2 month and at that time we will look and see if its really working if yes then we go to court and rework all the documents ( wording for where kids live and support ) and if no then we right back to the way it was . I am making appointments with their teacher and asking that the counslers are there too along with me and Ex and kids to discuss it too. so its a done deal for a trail period of 2 month. Thanks again for all the support and advise you have all given me everyone post made me look again at if its BEST FOR THE CHILDREN and while I am not sure it is we would never know if I just out and out said NO because I didnt want it..

as to the question about the parents moving around .. I DO NOT want the girlfriend and her kids living at my house for a week and I am sure she would like to live at her house - by the way her boys dad lives in FLA so they don't see him hardly at all but didn't have a good relationship when he was around here .

Oh and I do have a dog - a 2.5 year old beagle . he is a good boy but still it hard to carry on conversations you know .

Thanks again Michelle



I think you made a good decision. from all I've read this arrangement is no more disruptive than being with a parent and having to leave just to go home to bed...
it may be difficult at first, but as the children grow, they will appreciate your unselfishness....

as for the weeks when they are with Dad....find things to do...

hobbies, friends,...at the very least it gives you time to dis.....

and we can make up for the conversation that the beagle can't provide...LOL..


it also will be good preparation for when the children are grown and living out on their own...

as I stated earlier my ex made my daughter her total life and now that my daughter is out of college, and working..her mom isn't coping well and is bitter with my daughter ..blaming her for the fact that she has no life of her own..when in reality she brought it upon her self by doing all she could to keep my daughter away from me..
 
Michelle, that must have really been hard for you. I could never have done it, but I think you handled it perfectly. P&PD.
 
Hi All .. I just wanted to let you know that its not about the money as some people have made it to be ( mostly on another posting board ) . and yes alot of you are reading into that .. can you tell me of those of you in the 2 income familys can support everyone on 1.25 or 1.50 of what the both of you make and feel comfortable about it .. I am not that strapped and yes I do take disney vacations - one because I am like most of you here and look for all the budget tips and saving with codes/Ap's two I also rent points for the *deluxe* not motel 6 accomadions and out of the few trips in the past my mom has come and paid and is going on this next one as well .. If you must know ,this is what me and the kids choose to spend my income tax on because I work long and hard for that and feel we should do something fun with it and not use it all on bills . I should have never posted it but in my haste/fear I did and I knew someone would think that I was just a money hungry EX that can't move on ..
and I do have friends that I hang out with on most weekends when my kids are gone - its just who hangs out on work nights?? that is where the lonely part is ... and once all the rooms/closets have been cleaned then I will just sit back and enjoy all the time I have I am sure ..
Its not that I dont' have a good job - I do and there are chances to move around and get better ones but they do not have the flexibility I need or needed as the single mom - maybe now is the time to look into something better .
I know its hard to read this and understand - I am a good person and its not about the money or the loneliness - I just feel that once again I get the short end of the stick ( I first got it when he got his first girlfriend and then a second tme when he got this one and I almost lost my house that my dad built for us when we got married so I got rid of my mini van, gave up a job I really like because it didn't offer benefits that i had for 10 years , started at the bottom in a new company where I have been for 5 years and now I have to give in to his "new plan" without being consulted first .. It was mostly a mad reaction posting without thinking which I did all night long !!!! boy was it a long night . I just don't know how the person who has caused all my hurt and heartache gets to be the happiest and what he wants while I have to just sit back
I hope this clears up some thing you may have been wondering abut me and my whole situation . Michelle
 
:hug: Michelle I do understand where you are coming from. He broke up your family once by cheating on you and then leaving you for her and now that they playing house as a cozy little family he wants to break up your family again by taking the kids a longer period of time.
I before the flamers start lighting up their torches I do understand he is the father and he and the kids do deserve to spend time with each other. I just dont think its fair to Michelle that 1. he break up the family and then tell the kids about living with him without even discussing with her first.
I guess we all look at the situation through our own experiences.
 
oh Michelle - what a gut wrencher.
Not knowing anything at all about you or your situation, this is what I say.

Sit down and make up a budget of what your expenses for the kids are going to be. Their lives are already going to be going through some major changes. They need for you to still be in your house and they need to still have their same home with you during the time they are with you. You just can't put kids through constant uproar like that without consequences and your job as a Mother is to make it as easy as possible for them. Take it to your Ex. If you can't afford to have your Support cut then you can't afford it and he should accept that. A good number of your expenses are not going to be cut in 1/2 because they aren't with you -- Mortgage, Utilities etc etc etc.

If he's reasonable and it's not about the money for him, then he should agree to what your needs are also. Especially since you are being so reasonable about recognizing his need to spend more time with the kids.

Best of Luck to you Michelle. I'm sure it was a really rough night.
 
Originally posted by bigsis1970
I don't want to be alone .

You've said that in two different posts. Just be careful about using that as a reason for your actions. I have four friends who are (or were- now retired) judges. We have never discussed specific cases but they have talked in generalities - they DO NOT like to hear a person say something like that. Do not say that in court if it comes to that.

That being said I don't blame you at all for not wanting your children to leave more often. It's totally normal. One of my best friends literally almost had a nervous breakdown (and I am not saying that as an exaggeration) when her children spent two weeks with their father for the first time. She had to stay at a friends home and could not eat or sleep. She was really in bad shape. By the time a few years went by she was actually enjoying the time that she had when they were gone and looking forward to the time alone. It was a HUGE change.

He was a total cad that left her for the other woman also. Funny she managed to forgive him many years ago and they ended up having a good relationship while co-parenting. I on the other hand never forgave him. I didn't have to like she did. It's been 20 years now and the kids have turned out wonderful.

I don't blame you for being hurt and angry with his awful behavior - I'd probably want to do bodily harm to him if it was me. I am not telling you that you shouldn't feel bad about being alone - just don't let it look like you are using your feelings of being lonely as justification for a decision.
 
That is the custody arrangement ordered for my son's custody case. He has my DGS (age 2 when order was made) for a week, then his mother has him for a week. Since they live within ten minutes of each other this works out great. It hasn't had any negative effects on my DGS and they are all learning to cope with it. The parent that doesn't have custody that week gets one phone call every day. My son also cooperates with the mother (letting her have extra time on Thanksgiving, the child's birthday etc.) I agree with the other posters that these are his children too and he has just as much "right" and responsibility to them as you do. Yes, you are their mother but that doesn't make your claim any stronger or worthier than his claim "he is the father". Being a mother doesn't make you any more entitled to them or better. Perhaps when the children were younger their father THOUGHT (and society wants us to believe) that they are "better off" with the mother.
HOWEVER given his track record, this could just be on his part: a) a ploy to get out of or reduce child support (do you know what the gf's support is--maybe he's finding it harder than he thought it would be to have HER AND her kids to support) b) SHE (and maybe him) wants to play the big ole happy mixed family game (what happens when she's no longer in the picture????). Could this be a "show" for the GF?
He is not committed to the girlfriend (not that it sounds like marriage would make a difference in him) BUT how do you know he won't be subjecting the kids to this girlfriend, then the next one, then the next, etc? I wouldn't even try a trial period. I would talk to him and discuss your concerns about disrupting the children's schedule, DO NOT MENTION MONEY, his noncommitted relationship with the GF, your concerns the children's schooling will suffer, etc. Maybe an alternative would be to give him more summer time?
 
bigsis1970: You are a warm and giving spirit. You are afraid to be alone, and we all understand how frightening that prospect is, and yet you are willing to give this a try, because you are honest about how important this is to the kids, even in the face of your fear. You've been dealt an unfair hand, and you are dealing with it the best you can. You have my warmest thoughts and prayers that you will work through this and become a stronger, happier person than you ever were with the cheating ex.

So, here's some visuals for you!

:hug: Hugs for this tough time
:goodvibes: Goodvibes for the future
:wave: For venting, we're here!
:teeth: For future big grins where you least expect them
::yes:: For support that you are doing the right thing
:earsgirl: for a Disney vacation to plan
:wizard: for magic to do it on a budget!
 
I left my ex-husband when I was 2 weeks pregnant. Without going into a lot of the detail, let's just say the situation was such that I could not stay with him much as less raise a child in that environment. Took two years to get my divorce. Child support and visitation were set up. He got every other weekend, every other Monday night, and two weeks out of the year. Two years into our agreement, he calls me and says he wants Pete to live with him one week and me the next. He said his sister had the same setup and it worked great for her. My son was 4 at the time. I told him that I didn't that that was a good idea. That if he wanted more time with him, that I would try accomodate him, but that I really didn't want to disrupt Pete's schedule. He let is "slip" that this would save him child support. I asked him if that was the real reason he wanted to change. He said, well, it's a bonus. I told him if it was a money issue, than he needed to petition the courts for a deduction. I did not ask for a certain dollar amount, I actually agreed to less, but the judge had overruled that amount and increased it. I also reminded him that he had two weeks extra visition a year that he had never used a single day of, and suggested he start there and then see if he wanted more time. He blew up, called me all kinds of names, said I was stupid and crazy so I just calmly told him that I was not going to talk to him if he was going to be abusive, said goodbye, and hung up.

Over the next two weeks he was very polite to me. I knew something was up. Sure enough, Pete and I come home from school one day and there is a sheriff's deputy sitting in my driveway. He served me with papers from my ex saying that I was mentally unstable and that it was dangerous for Pete to live with me. He was going for full custody! :mad: Of course, I was beside myself with fear and anger. I had done nothing and Pete was my whole world. I had not been on a single date, no social life other than my friends. I was truly dedicated mom who sacrified everything for my son. He was number one.

I called my attorney that night and he just laughed. He said that I had nothing to worry about. This was a scare tactic on my ex's part and that we would file a countersuit. He said that visitation was already set and agreed upon and that the only way a court would change that is if there was a change in the home environment that would affect Pete, i.e. drugs, alcohol, etc. He said, do not worry about some stupid paperwork. He said that he could go file a motion tomorrow at the courthouse saying he was an astronaut, it didn't mean anything. He told me to remain calm and most importantly, not to lose my cool. That was easier said than done. God help me, but I wanted to deck my ex. :(

In the meanwhile, I continued to be polite and not discuss it with my ex. It was the hardest thing I ever went through and I get teary eyed now just thinking about it. Having to hide my pain and fear from my son and keep my chin up during the darkest time of my life.

A month later we were ordered to mediation. At that time, his attorney stated that my ex only wanted every other week. My attorney exploded during mediation and said, "what? so she is only crazy every other week?" Basically, my attorney said, screw you, were are not changing any visitation and not only that, we are taking you back to court for more child support. My ex exploded too, and said that my attorney was crazy. A lot of yelling going on between them, I just sat there quietly. I was numb to the bone with sadness and pain. What did I do to deserve this? :(

My ex called me that night and said, how can you do this to me? :rolleyes: I said, look, you started this, not me. Talk to my attorney.

Over the next few weeks, my attorney called my friends, Pete's teachers, doctor, etc. and got depositions on what a wonderful child he was and what a good parent I had been. It was very humilating to have to drag everyone into my personal business.

Well, needless to say, my ex dropped his case 1 day before the deadline to set up a hearing and he apologized profusely. He said he had to make those accusations in order to get before the judge. He said, look, I know you are a good parent, I just was trying to get him more and needed to make up a reason to get before the judge. No hard feelings, right? :rolleyes: I said, that all depends on whether you are going to pay my attorney fees, $ 1,750.00. How can you do this to me? he groaned. Never mind what HE had put ME through. He told me the case was dropped so I couldn't do anything. I said that HIS portion had been dropped, but not mine. No more Mr. Nice Guy from him, all of a sudden I was crazy again. I stood my ground, and calmly told him, if you do pay me attorney's fees, then we go to court for more child support. You have two weeks.

He did reimburse me for my fees, I dropped my motion, and nothing was ever said about it again BUT it is always in the back of my mind and I can never trust him again.

Flash ahead to now. I continue to be flexible with my schedule to accomodate him. I have never once denied him extra visitation when he requests it, even if it inconvienences me because I keep Pete's best interest in mind. My ex now has a live in GF and he weasels out of visitation a lot. Picks him up late, drops him off early, cancels his Monday visitation, so much for the dad that wanted "more time with his son". It's very sad. :( Now that Pete is 7, his dad has 4 weeks extra out of the year per our divorce agreement, but again, he has never used a single day of it.

Things have gotten worse too. It is to the point now that Pete does not want to go over to his dads. I get tired of having to have a "Pep Rally" to get him excited about going to his dads house. He cries now when his dad shows up. He said his dad does not spend anytime with him, just parks him in front of the TV while he hangs out with his GF. I tried to talk to his dad about this and told him that I was staying out of it, THEY needed to work it out between them. Finally, Pete lost it and told him how he felt. It was very sad and hurt his dad, but things have seemed to have improved. Only time will tell.

I look back now and know that I did the right thing. He cannot handle what he has now, much as less, every other week. It would have been a disaster for Pete. I still toss and turn at night, wondering if and when this will happen again. I feel better knowing that I did not drop the issue. He learned a very expensive lesson and I hope he thinks about that before he ever tries to do something like that again.

I have tried to put this mess behind me and dedicate some time to myself, to be other than just "Pete's Mom". I think that is very important to not lose yourself. I met a wonderful man about a year and a half ago who has custody of his 7 year old son. We met through school because the kids are best friends. My ex and his ex refuse to switch weekends, so one of us always have the boys, but we still manage to make time for one another. I would encourage you to develop some outside interests just to keep yourself sane.

Good luck to you! I know it is hard. Please keep us posted. ;)
 
Thanks everyone for the support !! I am having more and more of a hard time as the week goes on - I can't seem to drop the "mom" role and jump into the "me" role .. I guess I will get used to it and it will be easier as time goes by .. altho he is trying to get out of the trial and I am sticking to my ground !! I am worried they will forget stuff for school and if they are doing their homework and the worst part they haven't even called to say good night ! Pathetic I know . I did get out of the house on Sunday for the Super bowl to a friends and have a friend coming over on Friday night - provided the weather isn't horrible up here . just wanted to say Thanks again Michelle
 












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