Divorce, now what?

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To answer the OP... don't assume you'll have to hire a lawyer. The advice I got from a lawyer was to do what I can to avoid hiring one, which is the route that we're planning on taking. They can cost tens of thousands of dollars and in many cases a couple can work things out on their own or can go through mediation, which is what we're planning on doing. Neither of us want a costly, expensive divorce. In my situation it *could* come to that, but that's not how we're handling it.

It does seem that your husband is the person you should first be talking to. What if he learns about it here? I've made plenty of mistakes during this whole process...learn from some of them. ;) :hug:
 
As a woman who has recently gone through this situation you and your family have my deepest and heartfelt :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: for what is about to come your way!!!:hug:

My seperation/divorce blindsided me 15 months ago. I had no idea what he felt or what was in the works. He told me one day while the kids were at school, walked out leaving his wedding band on the dresser and never came back. He didn't even want to try to salvage the marriage and told me that point blank.

In April he filed for divorce. I sought an attorney before I even got served *ex did warn me that he had filed and I'd get served soon..which I have to say was nice*. My attorney charged $200 an hour and believe me they charge you for EVERYTHING. Postage stamps, a 2 second phone call, an email, they still charge you so my suggestion is get as much in order as you can for your first meeting and make the most out of that one.My attorney also required a retainer fee of $1500 that first day but that was "credit" until I ran out and then I'd pay him another retainer of $1500 and if I went over that one we'd go month to month until it was paid off. My final bill to my attorney was $3800.00 :sad1: :scared:

When I went to my attorney I took the paperwork that was filed by my ex with me. My attorney looked at it all, asked me many questions and then he said he'd take it from there and would get in touch with my ex's attorney. Months went by and I hadn't heard anything but I figured when it was time he'd call me.

At the end of July my attorney called me to inform me that they had found a mediator to take on our case so we didn't have to go to court and that if we started the mediation process and it wasn't working we weren't forced to continue down that path we could just say this isn't working and walk away.

The morning we were to meet with the mediator I was a mess. It was at my ex's attorney's office and thankfully I didn't have much to do with my ex. My attorney sat in 1 conference room and the ex and his sat in another. The mediator came, got statements from me and my attorney, went to my ex and got his statement from his attorney and my ex. Then it felt much like buying a new car. She'd go from me to him, from him to me. It took FOREVER that day but we finally agreed on it and my attorney asked me if I would be ok to go into a joint conference room where we'd all be there to sign. I said yes that's fine. We signed, I paid my 1/2 of the mediation fee *which was $1250.00 total from me*, they took copies of our drivers licenses and told our attorneys they would send them a copy to look over and then the attorney could send it to me. When that was done ex and I hugged each other, he thanked me for being so easy to work with as did I, I gave him a quick kiss on the cheek and walked away a single mom of 3 kids.

My ex and I have a pretty good relationship. He was here at Christmas this year as we both thought our youngest still believed in Santa. He was here for about 1 1/2 hours and then that was it. The kids stayed with me, went to my parents for lunch and with their cousins and that' s it.

If you can do this divorce as friendly as possible you could probably do it with a mediator. When you start going to court and having a judge deal with it is when it becomes a sticky, pricey situation for both of you. I wanted to avoid court in case my kids became an issue but they didn't. Ex gave me sole custody of them and he gets visitation. For us I think it all worked out the best given the situation. Ex and I talk on the phone *it always has something to do with the kids or birthdays* but then we ask how the other one is doing.

While this process was not fun, easy or cheap for me *not speaking for my kids because for them I don't believe it is like it is for me* it has slowly become the best thing that could have happened to me as hard as it was. I am happier, love my job and am more thankful for my kids now than I was before we split.

The first while was really hard to be a single parent. Now I'm getting the hang of it. My kids are older like 15, 14 and 10 so at least I didn't have little ones. It's been really hard on them at times but I think now we are finally breathing a little bit better. My kids had nightmares, crying jags, sick because they didn't want to go to school. I had the school psychologists talk to them and that did help. They've said a few times that they are glad that we can be friendly and that we didn't yell in front of them or make them the "middle man" in our lives. So I guess that was good.

I've posted this many times here and other places but it's been such a help to me when I get down and sad:


A woman was at the bottom of a deep, deep hole. There seemed to be no way out. The sides were steep and jagged, with no way to climb. There was no tunnel, no "back door".

The woman cried out for help until she was hoarse.

Someone came by and peered down. "Help!" the woman cried. The bystander yelled, "Wow, that's really deep. Sorry you're down there."

Later on, a family member came by. "You are really embarrassing our family by being down in that hole. You need to pull yourself up out of there."

A pastor came by and said,"I will be praying for you to get out of that hole."

An Alcoholics Anonymous member came by and offered to lend his ladder with 12 steps to climb out, but it wouldn't reach.

Finally, in despair, the woman lay down to die. She heard a noise, and when she opened her eyes, there was another woman next to her.

"Why did you jump in here?" she cried. "Now you are stuck in here too!"

The woman smiled and took her hand. "I've been here before," she replied. "And I know the way out

Good luck to you and your family during this time. It will be a hellish ride at times for all of you!

Phins
 
If there is one thing which will keep my dh and I together, it is the cost of a divorce. :rotfl2:
Good luck.
 
I agree. Maybe he cheated on her or is using illegal drugs or something like that. There are many reasons I can see where I would not be interested in "working it out." Lying, cheating, stealing, and using illegal drugs are a few of those reasons.

Just agreeing with this point. Some things are not even worth discussion or trying to fix. These are all things that are on that list. Heavy drinking, gambling, and abuse would also fall in this list.
 

It sounds like you have thought long and hard with it. It definatley is not an easy decision to make. I know what you are going through. I wish you the best and I hope that you and your soon to be ex make the right decisions for your children.

My ex and I chose to go to a mediator. It was the right choice for is. It was am amicable decision and we both wanted what was best for our children. The cost was $3,000.00 We didn't argue over anything.
 
My son just finished going thru a divorce/custody battle. His lawyer was $200 an hr. It took 1 1/2 yrs to finalize for a total cost of $30,000 plus. :scared:

The kids did have to be questioned and Son did win custody.
 
I know you "are happy" but your kids are going to be crushed.

I would leave the "glee" aside for awhile. My nephews suffered when my brother split up. It was so sad to watch.:guilty:

Umm, don't automatically assume this. I will agree divorce is very hard on children, and they can suffer greatly.
BUT, when my mom and step-dad divorced when I was 8 I was postively beside myself with joy. The ******* was evil and abusive and controlling and an absolute joy-killer 24/7 and I was SO happy to see him leave and to know that the constant stress and heartache and fear would be gone from the house.
Kids are sometimes smarter than we give them credit for, and if their home-life is suffering because of a bad relationship, they can be just as relieved by an end to the bad relationship as the grown-ups are.
JMHO! Have a great day all, and good luck, OP.
 
Umm, don't automatically assume this. I will agree divorce is very hard on children, and they can suffer greatly.
BUT, when my mom and step-dad divorced when I was 8 I was postively beside myself with joy. The ******* was evil and abusive and controlling and an absolute joy-killer 24/7 and I was SO happy to see him leave and to know that the constant stress and heartache and fear would be gone from the house.
Kids are sometimes smarter than we give them credit for, and if their home-life is suffering because of a bad relationship, they can be just as relieved by an end to the bad relationship as the grown-ups are.
JMHO! Have a great day all, and good luck, OP.

Well in my brothers case, the psycho mom has full custody and the kids are stuck with her.

So don't assume that it is good either.

My nephews have to put up with daily emotional abuse from her.:sad2:
 
Oh, OK. I know she is/was in a similiar situation. Now that I think about it I think she already is going thru with things.

I know you "are happy" but your kids are going to be crushed.

I would leave the "glee" aside for awhile. My nephews suffered when my brother split up. It was so sad to watch.:guilty:

So true, I'm 25 and still feel the effects of my parents divorce when I was a young child. Your children will most definitely need someone to talk to, I wish my parents had done something to make sure we were okay, everyone kept on as if nothing was wrong. It was very difficult, please be extremely sensitive to their needs right now. Even if they put on very brave faces, they're no doubt going through a really rough time.
 
I don't have any advice, but just wanted to say that I am sorry you are going through this. Even though you said that it feels like a weight has been lifted, I've been told that any divorce is hard to go through. Good luck to you.
 
You shouldn't judge until you know this person's situation.

I get irritated when women expect that when they end a marriage that they should always get custody of the children. The person who is unhappy in a marriage should be the one if its the man or the woman.
 
I get irritated when women expect that when they end a marriage that they should always get custody of the children. The person who is unhappy in a marriage should be the one if its the man or the woman.

Actually, it seems more appropriate that it depends on the situation and what would be best for the children. I don't think it matters who is unhappy. The best situation for the children is what really matters.
 
I get irritated when women expect that when they end a marriage that they should always get custody of the children. The person who is unhappy in a marriage should be the one if its the man or the woman.

But custody should not solely be determined on the dissolution of the marriage, until you know the person's situation. I do agree that custody should not always go to the mother.
 
Actually, it seems more appropriate that it depends on the situation and what would be best for the children. I don't think it matters who is unhappy. The best situation for the children is what really matters.


I agree.

I don't think custody should be based on "who decided to end the marriage". If a person is unhappy and needs to get out, even if there is no abuse or cheating, then I don't think the decision of where the kids go should be based on that, as I don't think that having your kids removed from your custody should be your "punishment" for wanting out of a marriage. Granted, the other parent would be losing the children and they don't deserve that either. But, ultimately, it comes down to what is the best arrangement for the children at that time.
 
I get irritated when women expect that when they end a marriage that they should always get custody of the children. The person who is unhappy in a marriage should be the one if its the man or the woman.

Because being "happy" in a marriage automatically makes you the most fit parent? I think that's ridiculous.

Everybody has sympathy for the poor guy whose wife packs up the kids and leaves. Well let me tell you, in my case that guy totally deserved it. When I hear about somebody getting left like that, I always feel some sympathy for the wicked witch who left that "nice guy." No one splits up a family, risks damaging their kids, and faces economic hardship for trivial reasons. Btw, my older kids may have some emotional issues from the divorce, but they've also told me their dad was even more abusive when I wasn't around.
 
OP, I just wanted to let you know that I understand what you are saying and where you are coming from. It will be tough, but I do know that when I was getting divorced it felt like the weight of the world had been lifted from my shoulders. Until the day I finally said, I am done, I did not realize how much pretending I had been doing, for the kids and everyone else. The kids were somewhat shocked as I had been very good about keeping things "adult" to myself so they were unaware that there had been adultery in the relationship. The bottom line is that you say you have not had the opportunity to speak with your dh and kids. It will be wonderful if you can do the mediation and get things ironed out in a nice way. But please, depending on your situation, know that there will be the chance that it will plain ugly. I thought once I said ok I want a divorce, my ex would be thrilled to pieces that I wasn't going to fight the whole other woman thing. He tried to bury me. Financially anyway. He gave up custody of the kids and has some visitation but when it came to splitting things fairly he was an absolute donkey's behind. He had a girlfried who he calmly told my attny did not feel I deserved anything but child support and she aimed to make sure that the ex got what he deserved. Yeah..bitter bitter bitter.

Please, make sure that you do try and feel out the kids. I thought that they would be o.k. and a few of the kids starting acting out. The best thing I did for them was set them up for some counseling and give them a safe place to vent their frustration. Because honestly I wasn't that safe place. If I wasn't crying, I was mad at their dad for some stupid thing. I would try and try to keep it to myself and sometimes I couldn't.

Good luck to you. If you do have to go and get an attorney with no chance of mediation, you could be looking at a small fortune. In the end I think my balance was about 4000. Only because I didn't contest some things. 18 months and we were still fighting I just let him have some of the stuff he felt were "his" free and clear. We probably could have ended up with a bill of 20,000 if I had just kept letting things go.

Kelly
 
Oh, OK. I know she is/was in a similiar situation. Now that I think about it I think she already is going thru with things.

I know you "are happy" but your kids are going to be crushed.

I would leave the "glee" aside for awhile. My nephews suffered when my brother split up. It was so sad to watch.:guilty:

My children were quite opposite. They were 6 and 7 when we divorced. It was a decision that took a long time to get to. Once I decided it definatley was like a weight lifted because we both wanted it, it was just a matter of who was going to be the one to take that step first. It is very difficut when you don't have children never mind when you do because that's all I thought about was my girls. It would ultimately affect them the most, but it wasn't what i expected at all. They actually didn't care. We talked to them about it daily to make sure they were ok. We are very open with our feelings and I thought something was wrong because they didn't cry, they never aksed for their dad to move back in they have never said that they wanted us to get back together. They never cried about it when we left our house for the last time and my children are very emotional. Kids are smart and they can sense when something is wrong. They have a good dad and he sees them almost daily, but he is a bad husband. He wasn't physically or emotionally abusive, but we just didn't get along anymore and we were both frustrated. They heard us fight, they never saw us happy and ironically, they are happy children. They are 8 and 7 now and they have seen BOTH their parents happy now and they love it. We still talk about things and they have actually said that they are happy we are not living together anymore. So this was not only a good decision for me and my ex, but my kids too. I wish that was the case in every divorce sitiuation.
 
I apologized for that. I just knew that you were going through the same thing right now.;)
Yep, kinda sorta at least. It's good and bad, but I don't use an alias for this sort of stuff. :laughing:


Well in my brothers case, the psycho mom has full custody and the kids are stuck with her.

So don't assume that it is good either.

My nephews have to put up with daily emotional abuse from her.:sad2:

That's sad.

I know that I'm a good mom and my H is a good dad, which is obviously important. In my case the marriage should have been ended years ago. I'm sad that things progressed to the point they are now at, however all we can do is to move forward from here.
 
I know you "are happy" but your kids are going to be crushed.

I would leave the "glee" aside for awhile. My nephews suffered when my brother split up. It was so sad to watch.:guilty:

Every divorce is so different. I've gone through two as a child.

The first was my mom and dad. We were very little, and even though I did end up angry with my mom because she "made my dad leave", we both knew it was bad, awful, horrid. Nothing like early childhood memories of your mom being beaten to mess up your brain. And my dad didn't leave it at that once they divorced (heck, even before they divorced he was living with someone else anyway), he kept making things horrible for us. I was more messed up by the "relationship" they had and how awful he was then (he's still a mega-jerk to his second family, but I don't take it AT ALL from him), than from the divorce. The divorce itself was GOOD for us.

Second divorce messed us up b/c we didn't see it coming. We thought things were good with mom's second husband...he was annoying and kinda gross (chewed disgustingly, which my brother and I cannot deal with), but they hid their problems from us. So when things went bad so fast I was a huge surprise.

And I actually thinking that HIDING problems can have worse effects than screaming in ear-shot of kids. WHY? Because at least I KNEW that what my dad and mom were doing. IN hubby's case, he KNEW that his mom and dad shouldn't be together. He and his sibs BEGGED his mom to leave their dad, it wasn't healthy for them at all, and wasn't healthy for her, either. If they had divorced, there would have been no surprise. And if I'd been a bit older with my mom and dad's divorce, or able to get through the daddy issues a 4 year old girl typical has, I wouldn't have been shocked either.

But with my first stepdad, I was surprised...and I spent about 10 years (slow learner) working through how a GOOD relatinoship was supposed to feel. I kept recreating the feel, the vibe, the emotional buzz of mom and Joe's relationship, when that was all wrong. Their relationship was bad, and I found out how bad in the following years, but I didn't know that in my heart and so thought that the yucko relationships I kept finding myself in were how things were supposed to be, until I finally moved in with mom and second stepdad (her childhood sweetheart, even before marrying my dad when she was 17!) and felt what a GOOD relationship is supposed to FEEL like.


LIke I mentioned, hubby and his two sibs wanted their parents to divorce but they refused. Their dad kept threatening to send MIL back to Korea (she only became a citizen when she turned 60...kept her Korean passport/citizenship "just in case" for almost 40 years) and warned her she would never see the kids again...that kept her there. But their lack of divorce messed them up, and it seems that only hubby is working things through and figuring it out...his sister keeps re-creating the nastiness of her parents' marriage and it almost seems like BIL does the same.


Divorce can often be a good thing, albeit ground-shaking, for kids.

No one splits up a family, risks damaging their kids, and faces economic hardship for trivial reasons.

Oh, I've known of some trivial, "that wouldn't be a big deal to another person", type of reasons...some people are just awful, especially when they meet someone new.



OP, I wish you and your kids, and your ex, luck.
 
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