Disney's MyMagic+ system falls behind schedule

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By Jason Garcia, Orlando Sentinel
3:20 p.m. EST, November 16, 2013

Walt Disney World's billion-dollar plan to outfit theme-park visitors with wireless rubber bracelets and get them planning more of their trips in advance has fallen behind schedule.

At a minimum, it will likely be several more months before all of the giant resort's customers can use "MyMagic+," which includes a new reservation system allowing visitors to book ride times weeks before their vacations and microchip-embedded "MagicBands" that act as all-in-one park tickets, room keys and credit cards.

Senior Walt Disney Co. executives once said they hoped to have MyMagic+ "largely" introduced by the end of the company's 2013 fiscal year, which concluded in September. But the project remains in testing and mostly limited to guests staying in Disney-owned hotels.

Disney would not provide any updated timetable last week. In a written statement, the chairman of the company's global theme-park division said he was pleased with the progress.

"From the outset, our MyMagic+ development has been focused on enhancing the experience our guests have with us. Our roll-out schedule is designed to be flexible so that we can make adjustments based on our testing and guest feedback," Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Chairman Tom Staggs said in the statement. "We're happy with the progress we are making, and MyMagic+ is now available to all our Walt Disney World hotel guests."

Staggs added that Disney has been making "modifications" based on the feedback it is receiving from guests during testing. "Once we're satisfied with those adjustments, we will continue to broaden the availability to our other theme-park guests."

MyMagic+ is critical for Disney, which has spent more on the project than it did in building the hugely successful Cars Land attraction at Disneyland in Anaheim, Calif. Executives have said they think the project will ultimately get travelers to make more trips to Disney World and spend more time and money at the resort when they visit.

Some analysts had expected the project to begin contributing to profit growth for Disney in 2014, but that now appears unlikely to happen until at least 2015.

Although Disney didn't announce MyMagic+ until January, the project has been in development for more than five years. Disney has been incurring significant costs tied to the project for at least two years, according to regulatory filings.

One month after announcing MyMagic+, Walt Disney Co. Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger said it would be rolled out "over the next several months." Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo expanded on Iger's comments in May, telling analysts at a New York conference that "by the end of this fiscal year, you're going to feel like it is rolled out," though he said Disney would continue to add elements over time.

But they began to push that target back over the summer. Iger told analysts in August the project was designed for "a probable full rollout in the early part of fiscal 2014." And they have since stopped offering any specific time frames.

During Disney's year-end-earnings call earlier this month, Rasulo said MyMagic+ was "still very much in the early days of rollout."

Disney would not discuss the delay in any detail. But in discussions with analysts, executives have characterized the project as exceedingly complex and repeatedly said they intended to make sure all kinks were ironed out before beginning a wide launch.

"We are walking before we run, so that when you come down and use the service, you are going to feel really good about how it works and not experience glitches, which is our business and not the guest's business," Rasulo said in September.

In addition to taking longer than expected, some analysts suspect the price tag for MyMagic+ has climbed. Doug Mitchelson, a media-industry equities analyst with Deutsche Bank, said he initially projected spending on the project at about $800 million, but "clearly they would have to be north of $1 billion at this point in time."

Still, Mitchelson said he remains optimistic that MyMagic+ ultimately will drive the double-digit returns that Disney management has predicted. And he said Disney is wise to wait until management is "absolutely sure" the systems will work as promised.

"This is obviously one of those projects that you can't afford to get wrong, not even once. Disney's brand is so crucial  they really have one good shot at introducing this to the marketplace," Mitchelson said.

"This is a project of relatively historic undertaking," he added. "It's never been done."

MyMagic+ is the capstone of about $6 billion in capital spending that Disney has plowed into its domestic parks-and-resorts business during the past half-decade or so, a construction spree that included two new cruise ships; a rebuilt Disney California Adventure theme park; a Hawaiian hotel; and the New Fantasyland expansion and Art of Animation hotel at Disney World.

Disney once said those projects would cumulatively contribute to profit growth during its 2014 fiscal year. But during its year-end-earnings call, the company changed that forecast, saying the "growth initiatives" would generate about $300 million in expenses during the current year and "more or less the same amount" in revenue.

Asked what had changed, Rasulo cited MyMagic+ costs, noting that the information-technology infrastructure Disney World has installed as part of the project depreciates more quickly than conventional attractions.

Rasulo has also said that some of some of Disney's other big investments  primarily the California Adventure makeover, which culminated in the 2012 opening of Cars Land  turned profitable faster than the company originally expected.

Although some of Disney's most devoted fans have been discussing and speculating about MyMagic+ for years in online forums, the company has managed to keep expectations muted among its mainstream customers, said Kevin Yee, an author who has written about Disney theme parks. That helps ease pressure to get the project done quickly.

Among those who have followed the project closely, Yee described the collective feeling as one of "trepidation." Some fans have been especially vocal about fears that MyMagic+ will sap the spontaneity from their visits by forcing more planning  fears that Yee said won't truly be addressed until the project is totally launched and being used by all guests.

"There are so many variables that the actual implementation could be really positive or it could be really negative," he said.

jrgarcia@tribune.com or 407-420-5414
 
It seems at this point the one thing I'm not looking forward to my trip to WDW next summer is the Magic Bands and the Fastpass+ system. Not happy to have to wait and wonder what the final system is going to be like and not looking forward to spending my vacation time dealing with bugs and glitches like many recent visitors have reported.
 
It seems at this point the one thing I'm not looking forward to my trip to WDW next summer is the Magic Bands and the Fastpass+ system. Not happy to have to wait and wonder what the final system is going to be like and not looking forward to spending my vacation time dealing with bugs and glitches like many recent visitors have reported.

Just wanted to reassure you on spending time dealing with glitches. We were a party of 6 and went for 10 days. On every single FP+ ride at least one of our party was not recognised. I had printed out all our reservations and when I showed them the printout we were all let on, every time, no trouble. I never went to guest relations as I was not prepared to wait for hours in line and waste our park time. So we experienced lots of glitches but didn't waste any time! Hope it's the same for you.
 
Booking a time for a ride 6 months in advance? That's no vacation. I'll find other places to go to.

Kind of reminds me of that old movie

"If its Tuesday, it must be Belgium".
 

Makes me feel a little better about DH's decision to push our trip for 2014 off to 2015. Maybe by then all the glitches will be fixed and the final system will be in place.
 
AND NOW . . . THE REST OF THE STORY:
(From a person with whom I play cards and is "high up", and whose opinions/rumors/statements have never been wrong . . .)

1) The man in charge of the Billion-Dollar-Plus project has been zipped.
2) The project now reports directly to Staggs and Iger, jointly !!!
3) In fact, Iger came out 2-weeks ago to see what was happening.
. . . it was Iger's first Trip to WDW to see the program
. . . as a CEO, he had NEVER seen it operate, just read the reports !
. . . for a billion-dollar project !
. . . he was given a magic band
. . . he tried the FP+
. . . he tried park entries
. . . he tried the room charging for merchandise
. . . he tried room charging for character meals and pictures
. . . he tried several hotel room door locks
4) Now, the program is WAY, WAY in trouble.
. . . too much money has been invested to drop it
. . . they have to proceed
. . . but, the official word is "THE TOTAL COST IS NOW UNKNOWN"
. . . so, the $1-billion+ pricetag could go to 1½, 2, or even 2½ billion !!!
5) The program "delay" is due officially to "reassessing" the program.
6) There is no date, official or anticipated, for a successful system
 
AND NOW . . . THE REST OF THE STORY:
(From a person with whom I play cards and is "high up", and whose opinions/rumors/statements have never been wrong . . .)

1) The man in charge of the Billion-Dollar-Plus project has been zipped.
2) The project now reports directly to Staggs and Iger, jointly !!!
3) In fact, Iger came out 2-weeks ago to see what was happening.
. . . it was Iger's first Trip to WDW to see the program
. . . as a CEO, he had NEVER seen it operate, just read the reports !
. . . for a billion-dollar project !
. . . he was given a magic band
. . . he tried the FP+
. . . he tried park entries
. . . he tried the room charging for merchandise
. . . he tried room charging for character meals and pictures
. . . he tried several hotel room door locks
4) Now, the program is WAY, WAY in trouble.
. . . too much money has been invested to drop it
. . . they have to proceed
. . . but, the official word is "THE TOTAL COST IS NOW UNKNOWN"
. . . so, the $1-billion+ pricetag could go to 1½, 2, or even 2½ billion !!!
5) The program "delay" is due officially to "reassessing" the program.
6) There is no date, official or anticipated, for a successful system



Hmm sounds familiar.
 
Hmm sounds familiar.

Yeah...... haven't I seen a lot of press coverage about this recently? No, wait..... this story included someone getting fired. I must be mistaken.
 
I'm at WDW now. The system seems to be working fine for my room key, charging and FP+. I would like to see some enhancements in the future, but give them time to work out any kinks before a major upgrade.

Enhancements I'd like to see...

1) Since the system, via your My Disney Experience profile, knows whether you have an AP or if you are DVC, have it communicate that info directly to cash registers for applicable discounts.

2) Add the ability to also link a Tables in Wonderland card to your profile...then you could scan your band when you are seated or check-in at at the restaurant and the server would know if you have a TIW discount or are on a dining plan automatically before you are seated. You wouldn't need to carry all the cards with you.

3) Add a cheap digital watch, or have an inexpensive watch built into an add on accessory so you don't need to wear both a watch and a magic band.

As far as FP+ I like the system, but felt compelled to over plan this trip...something I usually never do. So, in the future, I'll FP+ the "E-Tickets" and then do the rest of the park in a more casual manner, almost the same as the way I used the original FP system. I also will not schedule FP+ usage first thing after park opening, as the crowd level really doesn't warrant it (except maybe for the Kilimanjaro Safari.)
 
Yeah...... haven't I seen a lot of press coverage about this recently? No, wait..... this story included someone getting fired. I must be mistaken.


But, it did not reference the key-guy; the reference was to a publically known firing of a lower individual.
 
AND NOW . . . THE REST OF THE STORY:
(From a person with whom I play cards and is "high up", and whose opinions/rumors/statements have never been wrong . . .)

1) The man in charge of the Billion-Dollar-Plus project has been zipped.
2) The project now reports directly to Staggs and Iger, jointly !!!
3) In fact, Iger came out 2-weeks ago to see what was happening.
. . . it was Iger's first Trip to WDW to see the program
. . . as a CEO, he had NEVER seen it operate, just read the reports !
. . . for a billion-dollar project !
. . . he was given a magic band
. . . he tried the FP+
. . . he tried park entries
. . . he tried the room charging for merchandise
. . . he tried room charging for character meals and pictures
. . . he tried several hotel room door locks
4) Now, the program is WAY, WAY in trouble.
. . . too much money has been invested to drop it
. . . they have to proceed
. . . but, the official word is "THE TOTAL COST IS NOW UNKNOWN"
. . . so, the $1-billion+ pricetag could go to 1½, 2, or even 2½ billion !!!
5) The program "delay" is due officially to "reassessing" the program.
6) There is no date, official or anticipated, for a successful system

Does this mean my fall 2015 trip is in danger of having an incomplete system that is still "testing"?

:crazy2:
 
I am waiting for the special event tickets to be included in this. We are staying on property to attend Mickey's Very Merry but have been told the tickets can not be added to our magic bands.
 
Hi, I added the party tickets to my magic bands with no problem at all, and entered the park on the night of the party with my magic bands, hope that helps princess:
 
Hi, I added the party tickets to my magic bands with no problem at all, and entered the park on the night of the party with my magic bands, hope that helps princess:

I think the concern comes from those with other multi-day tickets linked to their accounts. The system is not reliable enough to take the admission from the correct ticket.
 
AND NOW . . . THE REST OF THE STORY:
(From a person with whom I play cards and is "high up", and whose opinions/rumors/statements have never been wrong . . .)

1) The man in charge of the Billion-Dollar-Plus project has been zipped.
2) The project now reports directly to Staggs and Iger, jointly !!!
3) In fact, Iger came out 2-weeks ago to see what was happening.
. . . it was Iger's first Trip to WDW to see the program
. . . as a CEO, he had NEVER seen it operate, just read the reports !
. . . for a billion-dollar project !
. . . he was given a magic band
. . . he tried the FP+
. . . he tried park entries
. . . he tried the room charging for merchandise
. . . he tried room charging for character meals and pictures
. . . he tried several hotel room door locks
4) Now, the program is WAY, WAY in trouble.
. . . too much money has been invested to drop it
. . . they have to proceed
. . . but, the official word is "THE TOTAL COST IS NOW UNKNOWN"
. . . so, the $1-billion+ pricetag could go to 1½, 2, or even 2½ billion !!!
5) The program "delay" is due officially to "reassessing" the program.
6) There is no date, official or anticipated, for a successful system

Wow ... that is some impressive insider perspective. And it sounds about right, that's jives with the feeling I get as an outside observer. I hope all that is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, though I am not going to review your equally impressive 17 THOUSAND posts to see if you have provided any insider info in the past that has turned out to be true or not.

This leaves me with two problems. 1) I wonder, if Iger tested it I would imagine his experience would have been similar to some of the testers have said, with so few people, being able to book FPs same day, and switch around and be flexible. Maybe that was not his experience ?

I as this because, as I have tried to explain to some testers, I would imagine if I had tested FP+ (and all my reservations went properly) I would have LOVED my testing experience, but I would also recognize it has not applicability to the full roll out.

So is the project WAY WAY in trouble because of his experience ??? Is that flexibility going away as more people are added to FP+ testing ?

2) If the project really is in this much trouble, and it appears it certainly is still under considerable "adjustment", where is this going to end up ? I know you say too much has been spent on it, but surely they could still end FP+ as we know it, keep MM+ and MBs which still change the experience and probably add to revenue growth and a ton of Meta Data to be used.

Instead of letting the cost grow to 2 or 2.5 Billion, cut FP+, build another major expansion or two !? That sounds like a much better investment for revenue growth while still holding on to MM+ ?

3) ... Its interesting that we have been seeing some recent reports as well that people are convinced this will increase return guests, and while I see several people here suggesting they like the new system, I would say the vast majority here, and of people I know in real life who are WDW people, do not like the system, and it is already making them consider alternatives. Now, I know I know, its possible to have a vocal minority and a silent satisfied majority, but I just don't see that in this situation. So, I wonder if they have to be rethinking the overall strategy behind MM+ and FP+.

(Yes, that was 3 points instead of 2 :( )
 
I would have to agree that magic band and fast pass + is far from being ready for prime time.

I just returned from a trip to disney and I was honestly surprised by the number of problems we had! Our bands didn't work out of the box, causing lots of problems at the airport/disney magic express. then once we got to the resort they reset the bands. a few hours later, they stopped working again. had to be reset again at the check in counter. then our pin numbers all of a sudden dropped off the bands. one minute the pin number worked, next minute it didn't. Then, the rides... we had about 50% of the rides we rode on, stop working or fail in some capacity. This has never happened to me before, so I tend to think it must have something to do with the new system. We were actually removed from the honey pots on the adventures of winnie the pooh because the ride failed and they couldn't get it to start back up again. (mind you, no rain, no loss of electricity). We had to step out of the ride using a step ladder and then walk through the ride to an exit. I'm not sure if this is common, but I found it very strange and quite "unmagical."

at the end of my trip i called the reservation line to book my next trip using a bounceback code. she asked me about my experience with the new system and i told her about the problems and that in general i liked the old fast passes much better. she said she has heard a lot of people saying that, and she said that the call was being recorded and they are listening to everyone's opinions and going to reassess the new fast passes. that could be just customer service trying to make me feel heard, but I sure do hope they truly listen to their customers!
 
Iger should have tested it on December 26. The last week of the year should be interesting.
 
When I heard the price of the magicband system, I gulped. Boy, I would have rather had an entirely new theme park for that cost. Animal Kingdom cost $1B to build the entire park. A new park would definitely entice me to come back more often and spend more money. I think Disney got taken for a ride by whoever is building the FP+ system.

I'll be at WDW in a few weeks. I already have my custom bands ready to go. I am not planning on adding my MVMCP tickets to my band simply because I am afraid it may try to "double dip" and steal a day from my tickets already in my account since I am entering the park at 4pm on that day.

I haven't even been to the park yet and the first thing I thought was, "Wow, this thing needs a little LED screen." It should display the time and also flash or beep when it becomes time to use your first FP+. All three of our FP+ are scheduled mid-day so now I am having to bring a digital watch with a timer with me (not something I normally do) just so I remember to use my FP+.

I wonder if they could have the system text me when my FP+ times are approaching instead? Is this an option? I don't remember if that was available when I signed up for the program.
 
at the end of my trip i called the reservation line to book my next trip using a bounceback code. she asked me about my experience with the new system and i told her about the problems and that in general i liked the old fast passes much better. she said she has heard a lot of people saying that, and she said that the call was being recorded and they are listening to everyone's opinions and going to reassess the new fast passes. that could be just customer service trying to make me feel heard, but I sure do hope they truly listen to their customers!

I was wondering about bouncebacks. It seems to me that their rate of bounceback bookings could really raise some red flags. I'm so glad they are listening to those calls, although it seems to me that the biggest indicator will be the number of people NOT calling.
 
AND NOW . . . THE REST OF THE STORY:
(From a person with whom I play cards and is "high up", and whose opinions/rumors/statements have never been wrong . . .)

1) The man in charge of the Billion-Dollar-Plus project has been zipped.
2) The project now reports directly to Staggs and Iger, jointly !!!
3) In fact, Iger came out 2-weeks ago to see what was happening.
. . . it was Iger's first Trip to WDW to see the program
. . . as a CEO, he had NEVER seen it operate, just read the reports !
. . . for a billion-dollar project !
. . . he was given a magic band
. . . he tried the FP+
. . . he tried park entries
. . . he tried the room charging for merchandise
. . . he tried room charging for character meals and pictures
. . . he tried several hotel room door locks
4) Now, the program is WAY, WAY in trouble.
. . . too much money has been invested to drop it
. . . they have to proceed
. . . but, the official word is "THE TOTAL COST IS NOW UNKNOWN"
. . . so, the $1-billion+ pricetag could go to 1½, 2, or even 2½ billion !!!
5) The program "delay" is due officially to "reassessing" the program.
6) There is no date, official or anticipated, for a successful system



Wow.


Based on this, the "rest of the story" is actually still to be written - possibly over another couple of years. Should be entertaining here on the DIS, though.
 












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