Disney's Magical Express . . . the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Deb in IA

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Let me preface this by saying we are not Disney novices. Since 1999, we have gone to Disney World 9 times, and for all but one of those times, we have used a limo service (Atlantis Limos).


But with DME, and a savings of $150, we could not pass that up.

We got back yesterday, and were there for 6 days.

Our general impressions is that as long as it is a FREE service, we would continue to use it. If Disney starts charging for this, we'll go back to Scoobey and Atlantis in a heartbeat.




First of all, we landed on Saturday, March 11 at 2:30 pm. We did not get to our room at Villas at Wilderness Lodge until 4:30 pm, and our luggage did not arrive until 7:15 pm.


Check-in at DME counter moved quickly, but when we were "directed" to the bus line, the greeter had no idea where we were going. I showed him our voucher and told him "Villas at Wilderness Lodge". He said, "OK. Old Key West". I said NO, Villas at Wilderness Lodge. He said, "OK. This line. Fort Wilderness." I said NO, WILDERNESS LODGE. He finally pointed us to the right line. (Scary. Had I not known the difference between resorts, we would have ended up at Old Key West!!!!).

We then had a 25 minute wait for the bus. Still not quite sure we were in the right line, when we started to proceed toward the bus, I attempted to ask the worker directing the passengers toward the loading area if this was the Wilderness Lodge bus, and I was RUDELY brushed off, with a curt, "Keep MOVING, keep MOVING!!!!". (Nothing like being treated like cattle to start your vacation off on a 'magical' note!!!). I did manage to ask again before boarding the bus and did confirm the correct bus.



On the day before our departure, we got our pick up notice. It said that they were unable to confirm our flight and to call them. Well, it turns out that United had changed our fight numbers, and we did not get notification from them. I called United, and got our correct flights. I then called the DME number on our departure notice, and got another rude, condescending agent. Now, I was told when I booked DME that our reservation number was the same as our hotel reservation, when she asked for our reservation, I started to give her that number. She barked at me, "No, no, no. I need a number that started with 1900!" Well, I didn't have a number that started with 1900. She starts over, and asks for our "reservation". Huh? I ask "You mean our reservation number?" She says, "NO, your reservation; your hotel!" She finally gets all our info, and gives me another reservation number (a 1900 number), but she doesn't give me a pick-up time. I ask, "And when is the bus picking us up?" She replies, "At 8:35", like I should have known that already. :rolleyes:

We do leave at promply 8:35 am, but pick up more people at the Poly and then the Grand Floridian. Then, we were supposed to go to the "B" side first, where United is, but it was too "backed up", so the driver goes to the "A" side, and drops those people off, then goes back to "B". By now, it is after 10:00, and our flight leaves at 11:28.

The best part of DME, in our opinion, is the Airline Resort Check-In service. We were able to check our bags and get our boarding passes at the hotel, and only had to clear security at the Orlando Airport. All 4 of our bags arrived back home with us yesterday.

I understand that we can use the Airline Resort Check-In Service without using DME. If they do start charging for DME, we use our limo serivce and the Resort Check-in and skip the busses!
 
The resort check in service is part of DME, the normal charge for remote luggage checkin is around $10/bag. I doubt you'll be able to use remote checkin for free when/if Disney starts charging for DME.

It might be worth paying for remote checkin even if you'e taking a towncar.


Deb in IA said:
I understand that we can use the Airline Resort Check-In Service without using DME. If they do start charging for DME, we use our limo serivce and the Resort Check-in and skip the busses!
 
First of all, we landed on Saturday, March 11 at 2:30 pm. We did not get to our room at Villas at Wilderness Lodge until 4:30 pm,

Was your room ready when you got to the resort? From landing at 2:30 and getting to room by 4:30 is pretty good. Getting off plane ,walking to check in at DME then line up for bus. How long was it from getting on the bus to getting to the resort (not the room).

REmember if you use a service you have to get your bags then walk to where ever your driver parked then wait for driver to go get car . ( waiting for bags is never a short wait)
 
paults said:
From landing at 2:30 and getting to room by 4:30 is pretty good.

Wow! When I read that I thought,"I can't believe it took that long!" We've always rented a car at MCO and it's never taken us more than an hour to be at our WDW resort...usually less! That's including waiting for our luggage, getting the rental car, etc. I was on the fence about ME, but I'm leaning more and more towards sticking with our usual car rental plan.

Karla B. :sunny:
 

ptrbryant said:
Wow! When I read that I thought,"I can't believe it took that long!" We've always rented a car at MCO and it's never taken us more than an hour to be at our WDW resort...usually less! That's including waiting for our luggage, getting the rental car, etc. I was on the fence about ME, but I'm leaning more and more towards sticking with our usual car rental plan.

Karla B. :sunny:

It's not clear how much of the 2 hours was spent on line at VWL.

Most of us find DME gets us to our resort 60-90 minutes after landing. That figure includes the 5-10 minutes it takes to get from our plane to the DME desk. It's a 30 minute drive from MCO to WDW. I guess you can get to baggage claim, get your baggage, go to your rental car and drive away in 30 minutes if you have a quick rent card but in general I think renting a car is probably going to take most guests about the same length of time as using DME.
 
Yeah, it's typically around an hour and a half between the time we land and the time we make it to the hotel, with a rental car.
 
So are there different busses to get to the different resorts? Part of my hesitance in going with DME is the fear that it will be like Super Shuttle and we'll have to go to a bunch of other resorts before getting to mine. And that we'll have to leave a little earlier than we normally would to go pick up at other resorts.

Also, my husband and I will probably be arriving on different days. Can he still use DME if he's arriving a couple of days later? - I guess the difference will be that I've already checked into the room.

TIA
 
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luvdiz said:
So are there different busses to get to the different resorts? Part of my hesitance in going with DME is the fear that it will be like Super Shuttle and we'll have to go to a bunch of other resorts before getting to mine. And that we'll have to leave a little earlier than we normally would to go pick up at other resorts.
Yes. There's a large fleet of DME motorcoaches, with frequent departures. The motorcoaches do not have fixed routes or a fixed schedule. Typically, a motorcoach will serve 2, 3, or 4 resorts. The motorcoaches are dispatched as needed. For example, if several families are waiting for each of three different resorts in a similar part of WDW, they're loaded onto a motorcoach, and the driver picks the most efficient route. DME motorcoaches do not need to be 100% full to be dispatched.

Although the folks who dispatch the DME motorcoaches try to make sure that nobody has to wait too long, DME is a shared service, so some people are luckier than others when it comes to timing.

The two times that I've used DME, we were in line and on the motorcoach for only a few minutes before we were on the road — and our resort (OKW) was the first stop.

luvdiz said:
Also, my husband and I will probably be arriving on different days. Can he still use DME if he's arriving a couple of days later? - I guess the difference will be that I've already checked into the room.
Yes. Disney knows that guests in the same room sometimes arrive at different times or even on different days. If the Disney reservation agent or travel agent has trouble setting this up, as for a supervisor.
 
When returning to the airport for departure, I have heard that the DME pick-up is about 3 hours before scheduled flight time and I know 3 hours is a long time but I have read some posts where people were still close to missing their flights with DEM stopping at other resorts, going through security at the airport, etc. So my question is, can you request to go to the airport earlier than the scheduled 3 hours prior to flight departure? My airline does not participate with checking luggage at the resort for our departure and so it will take a bit longer to check our luggage at the airport. I would rather waste time at the airport relaxing (eating/shopping) than rushing through the airport, possibly missing our flight. Does anyone know if this is possible? :blush:
 
disneygalz said:
When returning to the airport for departure, I have heard that the DME pick-up is about 3 hours before scheduled flight time and I know 3 hours is a long time but I have read some posts where people were still close to missing their flights with DEM stopping at other resorts, going through security at the airport, etc.
Well, the original poster said
We do leave at promply 8:35 am, but pick up more people at the Poly and then the Grand Floridian. Then, we were supposed to go to the "B" side first, where United is, but it was too "backed up", so the driver goes to the "A" side, and drops those people off, then goes back to "B". By now, it is after 10:00, and our flight leaves at 11:28.
, or two hours and fifty three minutes prior to departure. That departure time takes into account that the bus may pick up as as many as three other Resorts after yours; the half-hour or so ride to the airport; and ultimately getting the passengers to the airport ninety to one hundred twenty minutes before their respective flights leave as advised by the airport.
As for the OP's bus bypassing side "B" as the first stop because it was too backed up, well, if there's nowhere for the bus to pull in I'm not sure where the passengers would expect to exit from the bus? Heading over to side "A" and then returning to side "B" allowed the "B" Terminal passengers to arrive at the airport apparently slightly less than ninety minutes in advance - extremely reasonable. Or they could have gotten off the bus when it stopped on side "A", since both "A" and "B" are in the same building - just that one is on the left and one on the right.
 
Lewisc said:
It's not clear how much of the 2 hours was spent on line at VWL.

About 15 minutes to check in at VWL.

Yes, the room was ready upon check-in, since it was after 4 pm.

The break-down of the wait was approximately this:

Time from touchdown to going through DME Welcome Center line: 25 minutes
Time waiting for bus: 25 minutes
Time to drive from MCO to WDW: 35 minutes
Time to drop off other DME passengers at Poly and Grand Floridian: 20 minutes
Time to go through check-in line at VWL: 15 minutes
 
Deb in IA said:
About 15 minutes to check in at VWL.

Yes, the room was ready upon check-in, since it was after 4 pm.

The break-down of the wait was approximately this:

Time from touchdown to going through DME Welcome Center line: 25 minutes
Time waiting for bus: 25 minutes
Time to drive from MCO to WDW: 35 minutes
Time to drop off other DME passengers at Poly and Grand Floridian: 20 minutes
Time to go through check-in line at VWL: 15 minutes
Thank you. That looks like a good example of a worst case scenario.

Our first experience with DME — late in the evening, when there was little activity at the airport — was:
Time from aircraft arrival to arrival at the DME Welcome Center (including restroom stop): 10 minutes
Time in DME check-in line: 3 minutes
Time in DME boarding line: 1 minute
Time in motorcoach before departure: 1 minute
Driving time to first stop at WDW: 30 minutes
Addition time going to other resorts: 0 minutes (our resort, OKW, was the first stop)
Time to check in a OKW: 5 minutes
Total time: 50 minutes

Our second experience with DME — on a very busy Saturday afternoon — was:
Time from aircraft arrival to arrival at the DME Welcome Center (including restroom stop): 10 minutes
Time in DME check-in line: 5 minutes
Time in DME boarding line: 5 minute
Time in motorcoach before departure: 5 minute
Driving time to first stop at WDW: 30 minutes
Addition time going to other resorts: 0 minutes (our resort, OKW, was the first stop)
Time to check in a OKW: 5 minutes
Total time: 60 minutes
I think our first experience is an example of a best case scenario. I'm sure we were checked in at our resort much sooner than if we had used a towncar or a rental car, especially because we were able to skip the wait at baggage claim.

Our second experience was also quite favorable.
 
Usually, I do not have a problem with ME...after all, it's FREE. This trip is changing my mind a bit.

My flight is supposed to land Saturday night around 8 PM. I want to go to Pleasure Island. If I take ME to Pop Century, I would possibly arrive there around 10 and then have to check in (and I've had that take up to an hour) find the room, dump the luggage, then take the bus from PC to PI, which could take up to another 45 minutes. This means the club I'm headed for could have finished up most, if not all, of its shows by the time I get there. I could rent a car for one day for $30, drive straight to PI, check in at PC later, then turn the car in at the Dolphin the next day.

I'm sort of torn over spending the $30. If ME were not free, I wouldn't be conflicted at all, it'd be the car for sure.
 
Lewisc said:
The resort check in service is part of DME, the normal charge for remote luggage checkin is around $10/bag. I doubt you'll be able to use remote checkin for free when/if Disney starts charging for DME.

It might be worth paying for remote checkin even if you'e taking a towncar.

in January, we used DME to get to the resort, and then decided to rent a car to get back to the airport. We checked our luggage in at the resort, and got our boarding passes, then drove ourselves to the airport. I was not charged for this service. So, if you aren't using DME and want to check your bags at the resort, it cost $10?? Is this per person? Who is it paid to.
 
NCRedding said:
in January, we used DME to get to the resort, and then decided to rent a car to get back to the airport. We checked our luggage in at the resort, and got our boarding passes, then drove ourselves to the airport. I was not charged for this service. So, if you aren't using DME and want to check your bags at the resort, it cost $10?? Is this per person? Who is it paid to.


Sorry I wasn't clearer. DME, including resort checkin, is currently free.

OP said if Disney starts charging for DME they might take a limo but use the resort checkin. My point was IF Disney starts charging for DME then I doubt the resort checkin service would be operating for free.
 
NCRedding said:
We checked our luggage in at the resort, and got our boarding passes, then drove ourselves to the airport. I was not charged for this service. So, if you aren't using DME and want to check your bags at the resort, it cost $10?? Is this per person? Who is it paid to.
Today, as you noted, Disney guests can check their luggage and obtain boarding passes through Disney's Remote Airline Check-in for free, as long as their airline is on the Remote Airline Check-in list — even if they're not using Disney's Magical Express for transportation to the airport. It's specifically allowed in the DME FAQ (while inbound "luggage only" is specifically prohibited).

BAGS Inc., the provider of Disney's Remote Airline Check-in, provides a similar service at some convention centers and non-Disney hotels. There's typically a $10 charge per person, except at Disney, where the Disney pays BAGS Inc. to provide the service to guests for free. Lewisc wrote, "I doubt you'll be able to use remote checkin for free when/if Disney starts charging for DME." I think that what Lewisc means is that if Disney were to start charging for Disney's Magical Express, then it's unlikely that Disney would allow guests to use the Remote Airline Check-in for free if they're not also using Disney's Magical Express.

Lewisc is a smart poster who provides a lot of useful information and insight on this board. And I see Lewisc's logic here.

However, my opinion is that both Disney's Magical Express and Disney's Remote Airline Check-in will remain complimentary, and will continue to operate under the current rules. A few days ago, the Orlando Sentinel published that Disney has no plans to charge for Magical Express. And that makes sense to me. Disney gains far more by increasing the perceived value of staying at Disney-operated WDW resorts and building the largest possible captive audience (with captive wallets) — thus recovering the cost of Magical Express indirectly (probably several times over) — than by trying to recover some of the cost of Magical Express with direct fees, which will only serve to drive people away from Magical Express and to decrease the perceived value of Disney-operated resorts.
 
I think Disney will try to keep DME free. Free means continued high utilization which means buses get dispatched quickly with fewer stops. The higher the price for DME the more it's likely to resemble the old Mears service, many stops and waiting at MCO for a bus to fill. There has been speculation that Disney may join S/D, SoG and other resorts and charge for parking. I could see Disney doing this to help pay for DME.

My point was in answer to the OP who said they would use the remote check in with a tonwcar service IF Disney started to charge for DME. I think there is zero chance of Disney charging for DME (transportation and inbound luggage) but continuing to offer resort check in for free. If anything I could see them charging only for the remote check in since DME can run without it.

I understand that we can use the Airline Resort Check-In Service without using DME. If they do start charging for DME, we use our limo serivce and the Resort Check-in and skip the busses!




Horace Horsecollar said:
Lewisc is a smart poster who provides a lot of useful information and insight on this board. And I see Lewisc's logic here.

However, my opinion is that both Disney's Magical Express and Disney's Remote Airline Check-in will remain complimentary, and will continue to operate under the current rules. A few days ago, the Orlando Sentinel published that Disney has no plans to charge for Magical Express. And that makes sense to me. Disney gains far more by increasing the perceived value of staying at Disney-operated WDW resorts and building the largest possible captive audience (with captive wallets) — thus recovering the cost of Magical Express indirectly (probably several times over) — than by trying to recover some of the cost of Magical Express with direct fees, which will only serve to drive people away from Magical Express and to decrease the perceived value of Disney-operated resorts.
 
Lewisc said:
think renting a car is probably going to take most guests about the same length of time as using DME.

My husband rented a car while I took the kids on the ME bus from the airport. I could not believe how long it took to get to our resort-waited in line for a bus for over 20 minutes, dropped off at OKW and then the FQ. My DH was waiting at POR for us when we arrived. Laughed and said, "so was it Magical?". Not really.
 














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