Disneyland Paris employee ruins marriage proposal

this was handled all wrong. If they were not supposed to be there, dont jump between them. In this case, let the guy finish the proposal, and then proceed to escort them out of the park.
 
this was handled all wrong. If they were not supposed to be there, dont jump between them. In this case, let the guy finish the proposal, and then proceed to escort them out of the park.
This is exactly what the entitled rule breaker was counting on. He'll go to an illegal area and get the proposal in and then after that he cared less what could happen.

It's like a streaker at a soccer or basketball game. They streak and get on camera, so they get it on video and on their youtube channel for more views. After that they don't care if they get ejected from the game/stadium because they accomplished what they set out to do.
 
This is exactly what the entitled rule breaker was counting on. He'll go to an illegal area and get the proposal in and then after that he cared less what could happen.

It's like a streaker at a soccer or basketball game. They streak and get on camera, so they get it on video and on their youtube channel for more views. After that they don't care if they get ejected from the game/stadium because they accomplished what they set out to do.
Oh im normally not the person that would be on the side of the rule breaker. I hate entitled behavior.

My thoughts are on this one, they werent hurting anyone, he was already mid proposal, and now that moment is flat out ruined, and i get it was their fault (really his). But it without a doubt could have been handled by Disney differently, but they should have without a doubt been punished for it.

I say, if she said yes, then they should trespass them both, if she said no, trespass the guy lol.
 

Oh im normally not the person that would be on the side of the rule breaker. I hate entitled behavior.

My thoughts are on this one, they werent hurting anyone, he was already mid proposal, and now that moment is flat out ruined, and i get it was their fault (really his). But it without a doubt could have been handled by Disney differently, but they should have without a doubt been punished for it.

I say, if she said yes, then they should trespass them both, if she said no, trespass the guy lol.
Precisely, even DLP agrees or they wouldn't have offered to "make it right".
 
Oh im normally not the person that would be on the side of the rule breaker. I hate entitled behavior.

My thoughts are on this one, they werent hurting anyone, he was already mid proposal, and now that moment is flat out ruined, and i get it was their fault (really his). But it without a doubt could have been handled by Disney differently, but they should have without a doubt been punished for it.

I say, if she said yes, then they should trespass them both, if she said no, trespass the guy lol.
If the rule breaker was really that smart and compassionate then he would have said to himself, probably not a good idea to propose in an illegal, restricted area when there are plenty of other places to propose at Disneyland. Like there are a million places in Disneyland where it would be okay to propose but Imma gonna go to one of the places that are a restricted stage area cause look at me.

It's a foreseeable conclusion that something bad could happen or the proposal could be ruined if you go to an off limits area. In the end it's his own fault for taking that calculate risk instead of going somewhere safer.

I'm sure this rule breaking guy will have other marriage proposals so he will have more opportunities to get it right next time.
 
I'm sure this rule breaking guy will have other marriage proposals so he will have more opportunities to get it right next time.
That's actually more optics and PR then them thinking what the rulebreaker did was right.
LMAO. She said yes, despite whatever you think the guy did wrong, not everyone is a boy scout. You don't seem to understand that yes, if he didn't have permission he was not on a public area and should have probably been escorted out or at least given a reprimand. BUT that isn't the point. He risked it because it was a romantic gesture that paid off for him and despite the Randall CM she will probably remember it fondly forever. I know I would.

Literally no one is saying it was ok for him to break the rules, simply that Randall made the bigger mistake because of how he handled it, and DLP knows it too. It would have taken 1 minute for him to put the ring and Randall could have giddily escorted them out of the parks or to security right then but he didn't and because of that DLP looks bad instead of the groom. Yes, of course it's optics, that's the point.
 
I can't stand how news outlets are sharing this story and saying the couple "had permission", not to mention they all conveniently crop out the fence in their posts.

There is no proof they actually had permission; that was heresay by the original poster on Reddit who was a "friend" of the couple.

Was the Cast member in the wrong for touching their property? Yes. However, in the original video there is clearly a fence in the frame that they most certainly either opened or hopped to get up there.

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Saw the original thread on Reddit where I think this initially gained traction. From what I understand the guy proposing asked for and initially DID NOT get permission to do this, but kept pushing “because I want to” (i.e. he had this plan made up and no alternatives) and eventually the CM he was talking to relented. That was the big mistake. Obviously the second CM in the story didn’t handle this in the best way but none of this happens if the first CM doesn’t give in.
I have an slightly other memory, but as it is was 7 or 8 days ago I could be wrong:
The friend of the groom-to-be originaly posted the video and stated that his friend had NO permission at all (and also didn't got it after pushing), but because of the heavy backlash from the community (kind of "what did he expect, if you were told no" etc.) he deleted the post and posted a new one where he stated that they got permission. And now (also backuped because of the Disney statement) he denied the orignal first post and said to everybody who remembered the first one they got permission after several begging.
 
I have an slightly other memory, but as it is was 7 or 8 days ago I could be wrong:
The friend of the groom-to-be originaly posted the video and stated that his friend had NO permission at all (and also didn't got it after pushing), but because of the heavy backlash from the community (kind of "what did he expect, if you were told no" etc.) he deleted the post and posted a new one where he stated that they got permission. And now (also backuped because of the Disney statement) he denied the orignal first post and said to everybody who remembered the first one they got permission after several begging.
Yeah the thread I saw may have been the second (this is the one that was linked in articles about it). The red flag was that it said "he asked for permission!" at the beginning with the obvious follow-up question being "well... did he get it or not?" That detail wasn't addressed until somewhere in the comments, where I found the wishy-washy answer of "sorta yes, after some prodding".
 
Yeah the thread I saw may have been the second (this is the one that was linked in articles about it). The red flag was that it said "he asked for permission!" at the beginning with the obvious follow-up question being "well... did he get it or not?" That detail wasn't addressed until somewhere in the comments, where I found the wishy-washy answer of "sorta yes, after some prodding".
I'm upset with me, that I didn't take a screenshot. Would have been funny with the media, after the 2nd post with the changed facts (permission) has gone viral...
Perhaps the CM has gone a bit over the top, but I can only slightly fault him: They obviously entered a restricted area with fireworks. If he hadn't interupted the proposal, there would be many followers.
Realy hope that the CM wasn't fired or punished and Disney went not overboard with compansations for the lie and rulebreaking of the pair.

And no I'm no strict rule follower at all, but if you bend the rules or laws don't be so obviously and do not get caught (yeah I have to admit I would have been placed in Slytherin)...
 
In Disneyland Paris now, I took a picture of the stage where it happened. This is 30 minutes before showtime.

The show is adapted today as it is about 95F degrees here. It is the parade part only, no show at the hub. So I can't check when they open the gates. But what normally happens on the left and right of the green lines is where guests can stand. This show is very good and therefore popular, as of an hour at least before showtime fans start to gather.
The path in the middle is where the characters and dancers go by, so before showtime this area is cleared like with a parade. No crossing unless a CM tells you, you can.

When the gates are opened and you try to get on stage, you are surrounded already by a thousand people. When you get on that stage, the entire hub can see you.
If a CM agreed to let someone do this, he/she has to take people out of a crowd. This cannot be done without other CMs seeing it.
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In Disneyland Paris now, I took a picture of the stage where it happened. This is 30 minutes before showtime.

The show is adapted today as it is about 95F degrees here. It is the parade part only, no show at the hub. So I can't check when they open the gates. But what normally happens on the left and right of the green lines is where guests can stand. This show is very good and therefore popular, as of an hour at least before showtime fans start to gather.
The path in the middle is where the characters and dancers go by, so before showtime this area is cleared like with a parade. No crossing unless a CM tells you, you can.

When the gates are opened and you try to get on stage, you are surrounded already by a thousand people. When you get on that stage, the entire hub can see you.
If a CM agreed to let someone do this, he/she has to take people out of a crowd. This cannot be done without other CMs seeing it.
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Can confirm (hi, I’m also here! What a small world!). Those fences are not new either- they’ve definitely been there while. Also, the shirt the CM was wearing in the video is the same shirt I’m seeing on the parade/show CMs.

Also, tonight with fireworks there welter several instances of guests trying to climb over the railings, and the CMs were quick to direct them off.
 
In Disneyland Paris now, I took a picture of the stage where it happened. This is 30 minutes before showtime.

The show is adapted today as it is about 95F degrees here. It is the parade part only, no show at the hub. So I can't check when they open the gates. But what normally happens on the left and right of the green lines is where guests can stand. This show is very good and therefore popular, as of an hour at least before showtime fans start to gather.
The path in the middle is where the characters and dancers go by, so before showtime this area is cleared like with a parade. No crossing unless a CM tells you, you can.

When the gates are opened and you try to get on stage, you are surrounded already by a thousand people. When you get on that stage, the entire hub can see you.
If a CM agreed to let someone do this, he/she has to take people out of a crowd. This cannot be done without other CMs seeing it.
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Great update thanks.

Well I can see why the guy chose the spot anyway. But for sure looks off limits.
 
I've never been to DLP, but I've read reports this is a widespread issue. Even watching the live streams from the Park, you see guests sitting on rocks, fences, etc. that you know are off-limit areas.

But the lack of respect is not limited to DLP.

When I was at World in December, I saw people letting their kids in the gardens at the hub. They were trampling all over the flowers and taking pictures by the 50th statues.

Seriously? That's why we can't have nice things.
 















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