Disney World Vacations And Cell Phone Use!!!

[Disneyadore]

My daughter has Down syndrome. Being able to text has opened up her life in ways we never thought possible. People with Down syndrome often have difficulties with expressive speech. It is very frustrating as they know what they want to say, just can't get it out. With texting, she can now express herself in ways that we take for granted.

Thank you for reminding me that also "non verbal" people can use this great opportunity. Of course not meaning anything bad towards your daughter
Wonderful she can use her cell phone and you must be proud and relieved she has found her way into the real and hard world.

Sending your daughter many many good vibes and a million minutes on her phone.

 

[goofy!]

I do not have to get used to anything!!!!!

That is your completely your choice. You can choose to allow others to enjoy their vacation the way they want to enjoy it, or you can ruin your vacation stressing and judging how others are not doing something exactly the way you would do it.

Enjoy your next trip to WDW with your Iphone4. For somebody who hates cell phones so much, you seem to be equipped with the latest technology, ie a phone and an air card. Somehow I very much doubt that you never use it.

Due to below, I vote for somebody that is bored and trying to egg people on. And doing a great job at it!

well I get full bars everywhere I go with my iphone 4. and I was at the AKL this week, and I have to say even with my aircard I got really bad and dropped service!! but the minute I moved to WL, it was full bars again!! now this was 4g...

 

[goofy!]

Thank you for reminding me that also "non verbal" people can use this great opportunity. Of course not meaning anything bad towards your daughter
Wonderful she can use her cell phone and you must be proud and relieved she has found her way into the real and hard world.

Sending your daughter many many good vibes and a million minutes on her phone.

bedankt!

We are blessed that she has great speech, however, some of her friends are not as verbal. Now she is able to do what every young adult longs for - have best friends that they can share hours discussing everything that is important to them. It also fosters a greater independence for her. Yesterday, she and 5 other young adults (4 with Down syndrome) organized an outing to putt putt golf and go-carts. They organized the time, the place, etc, all through texting. This would have been extremely difficult by phone. And they did not have to rely on parents or other adults to convey the info for them.

 

[Carly_Roach]

When my large group splits up, we will use texting to locate each other later on.

Once more, I don't give a flying fig what others think. End of story. WAY too much anger and energy being devoted to the habits of others here.

As I stated we come from a different time zone and we just have a very small time window to call. And if this happens during a ride well sorry but I'm going to take the call. I have to deal with screaming or spoiled children during that same ride.
And sorry but for me my child,family and business is way more important than strangers who think they have a reason to judge me.
And maybe those same strangers jump ahead of me in the waiting lines.

I can't speak for others on this thread, but this is the attitude that bothers me the most. The attitude that says "I am going to do what I want to do and the hell with everyone else and how my actions might impinge on their experience. I am more important because (insert your reason here) and if they don't like it, too bad so sad get over it."

I can think of hundreds things that people do that I don't like. Screaming children in adjoining rooms late at night, children running through the resort gangways after two o'clock, My "neighbor " guests smoking on their balcony, ECV in the hallway, putting dirty plates outside your room on the floor and so on and on.
I don't like it but I don't complain. That are the "rat syndromes" when thousand pf people have to stay in a to small environment.

So I'll guess Ill be the rat with the cell phone

So I guess two wrongs DO make a right. Who knew?

And last but not least this. Yesterday I was watching a documentation about the victims from 9/11 that left a last message for there beloved ones on their cell phone.
I saw many many people that cherished that cell phone call as the last contact and string with their husband,father or child. Thank God for cell phones and live and let live.

It's funny you should mention that. I was also watching a documentary about 9/11 regarding the hours after 9/11. Apparently so many people had called and left voice mails before the towers fell that the either the satellite or something else became saturated with the amount of data. Those voice mails weren't delivered until 24-48 hours AFTER the towers fell, leading the families to believe that their beloved ones were still alive in the rubble somewhere and had just left a voice mail instead of having left that voice mail right before they died.

I'm not knocking technology, but it's not the be-all, send-all, wonderful tool that people who depend on it every single moment of their lives are praising it for. It can also be quite, quite cruel.

Some people have a very narrow-minded view of how the world should revolve. Things are only acceptable if it's important to them and everyone should do the same. And then they ridicule and discount anyone else that has a contrary opinion since it hasn't been experienced by them, it must not be real.

Further, some people think the park was made for them and that they should have a clear, unobstructed, red carpet path from attraction to attraction. And then they feel compelled to judge based on the snapshot of what they think they've seen.

It's not pretty when a snowflake grows up.

I know you were targetting those who had spoken out about people who are attached 24/7 to their cell phones and text messages. But I propose that this sentiment can also be addressed to those who are telling others to suck it up, they're going to be on their cell phones and the hell with how their behavior might impact those around them.

And I will adamantly, vehemently, and totally agree with you. You are absolutely right - it sure isn't pretty when a snowflake grows up.

 

[Disneyadore]

bedankt!

We are blessed that she has great speech, however, some of her friends are not as verbal. Now she is able to do what every young adult longs for - have best friends that they can share hours discussing everything that is important to them. It also fosters a greater independence for her. Yesterday, she and 5 other young adults (4 with Down syndrome) organized an outing to putt putt golf and go-carts. They organized the time, the place, etc, all through texting. This would have been extremely difficult by phone. And they did not have to rely on parents or other adults to convey the info for them.

Because or thanks to the fact I live in a very small country we have laws to protect these children and persons. We have multiple programs to help them and two "shows" on television where they play the lead rolls. "Down with Johnnie and Upside Down "are big runners here and we really laugh until our eyes tear when we see how smart and humor full they are. In many occasions they outsmart the "normal and smart "people"
O and how could i forget "button in your handkerchief and our famous "Josti Band" http://www.jostiband.nl/opencms/nl/orkest/

 

[Disneyadore]

I can't speak for others on this thread, but this is the attitude that bothers me the most. The attitude that says "I am going to do what I want to do and the hell with everyone else and how my actions might impinge on their experience. I am more important because (insert your reason here) and if they don't like it, too bad so sad get over it."

So I guess two wrongs DO make a right. Who knew?

It's funny you should mention that. I was also watching a documentary about 9/11 regarding the hours after 9/11. Apparently so many people had called and left voice mails before the towers fell that the either the satellite or something else became saturated with the amount of data. Those voice mails weren't delivered until 24-48 hours AFTER the towers fell, leading the families to believe that their beloved ones were still alive in the rubble somewhere and had just left a voice mail instead of having left that voice mail right before they died.

I'm not knocking technology, but it's not the be-all, send-all, wonderful tool that people who depend on it every single moment of their lives are praising it for. It can also be quite, quite cruel.


I know you were targetting those who had spoken out about people who are attached 24/7 to their cell phones and text messages. But I propose that this sentiment can also be addressed to those who are telling others to suck it up, they're going to be on their cell phones and the hell with how their behavior might impact those around them.

And I will adamantly, vehemently, and totally agree with you. You are absolutely right - it sure isn't pretty when a snowflake grows up.

Well I guess you don't own a cell phone and others opinion don't bother me the least or will make me change my mind. A cell phone is a normal accepted device and if some one doesn't like to be confronted with modern technology maybe it is a wonderful idea to go and live with the Amish people.
Lovely people but stuck in the past.

It's funny you should mention that. I was also watching a documentary about 9/11 regarding the hours after 9/11. Apparently so many people had called and left voice mails before the towers fell that the either the satellite or something else became saturated with the amount of data. Those voice mails weren't delivered until 24-48 hours AFTER the towers fell, leading the families to believe that their beloved ones were still alive in the rubble somewhere and had just left a voice mail instead of having left that voice mail right before they died.

No actual these people were watching the news ,seeing the terrible pictures and were talking to their at that moment still living beloved ones.
I saw and could hear people trying to give advise to their son to keep low on the floor under the smoke,use wet towels or smash in the windows. I could hear the son answering and telling others with him what his parents told him. No fake or late calls.

 

[mickeysgal]

I'm not knocking technology, but it's not the be-all, send-all, wonderful tool that people who depend on it every single moment of their lives are praising it for. It can also be quite, quite cruel.


I know you were targetting those who had spoken out about people who are attached 24/7 to their cell phones and text messages. But I propose that this sentiment can also be addressed to those who are telling others to suck it up, they're going to be on their cell phones and the hell with how their behavior might impact those around them.

And I will adamantly, vehemently, and totally agree with you. You are absolutely right - it sure isn't pretty when a snowflake grows up.

Point taken. I think there are extemes on both sides of the texting/cell phone use issue.

However, what is strange here is that since someone is seen texting or using their cell phone at Disney it's been labeled automatically labeled as excessive, not necessary, self-centered, etc. An extreme view, in my opinion and very much a pot-stirring subject.

To you it's not the be-all, end-all device, but to others it is. Hey - some people view Disney as the ultimate be-all, end-all vacation destination, others not so much. To each his own. However, I wouldn't start a thread that asks for banning of Disney vacations. That's too extreme. Not sure why anyone would take the time stop and fixate on the who's and why's of someone texting at WDW in order to judge whether it's warranted or not.

And I must be missing something because I'm not understanding the cruel comment.

 

[Mimi1965]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=37010667#post37010667

Looks like the OP really likes cell phones

 

[Carly_Roach]

Well I guess you don't own a cell phone and others opinion don't bother me the least or will make me change my mind. A cell phone is a normal accepted device and if some one doesn't like to be confronted with modern technology maybe it is a wonderful idea to go and live with the Amish people.
Lovely people but stuck in the past.

Both DH and I own cell phones, but most of the time mine's off. I think his is on more but I don't really know. We both consider cell phones to be tools and we keep them in that realm. We simply didn't grow up with this kind of technology, therefore we can easily spend our days not having to depend on it.

As independant adults, we don't need to know every single miniscule detail about what's going on in each other's lives 24/7/365. I find that behavior to be narcissistic and distasteful. But that's just me. DH just doesn't have time for it and considers women who are that way to be "high maintenance".

I heartily agree.

It is one thing to have to put out fires from time to time using technology that interrupts other people around us. If/when that happens, we're mindful of those in our vicinity and take the time to step out of the mainstream to handle the emergency. It is quite another, and we see this MUCH more often than the emergencies, to be constantly talking (usually quite loudly) about mundane details and sharing experiences that are typically only important to the caller.

I mean really....do I absolutely have to find out right this red-hot minute from your end of the cell phone conversation in the bathroom that your neice just won 1st place in a recital? I don't like to flush while you're in the midst of being all excited and congratulatory, but sometimes I just gotta go before you wrap that call up.

No actual these people were watching the news ,seeing the terrible pictures and were talking to their at that moment still living beloved ones.
I saw and could hear people trying to give advise to their son to keep low on the floor under the smoke,use wet towels or smash in the windows. I could hear the son answering and telling others with him what his parents told him. No fake or late calls.

Ah. That wasn't the one I was watching. This one was on the Discovery Channel entitled 9/11: After the Towers Fell

When the Twin Towers Collapsed on September 11, 2001, thousands were feared trapped beneath the tons of steel and rubble. Rescue Workers, family, and friends rushed to Ground Zero to save the buried. These are the stories of the race to rescue survivors.​

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like they're going to air it again, otherwise I would highly recommend it. There are some wonderful stories of family reunions amidst the sad stories of loss.

But I have to admit I was shocked to hear a conversation between a 911 operator and someone who was on their cell phone when the south tower actually collapsed. His last words were, "Oh God! Oh..." and then the line went dead. I couldn't believe they'd actually aired someone's dying telephone conversation. So for as many "comforting" calls you can come up with that support your theory about how cell phones are a wonderful thing, I can come up with just as many that bely that argument.

All we are asking is to have some consideration to those around you. While I'm sure it's incredibly important to you to be plugged into your loved ones who aren't in your immediate vicinity at this moment, it's definitely not incredibly important to those who have no clue who you are nor care about your agenda.

I know that's hard for y'all to hear, but you're just. not. that. important.

Unless you are the only human being on this planet who can give life-saving instructions that will save the life of the person on the other end of the phone (highly unlikely), your call is unnecessary and can be postponed until you've moved out of the mainstream of the immediate population.

 

[NatashaDisneyCM]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=37010667#post37010667

Looks like the OP really likes cell phones

yes, I have state of the art everything! 2 macbook pros' and a huge imac...2 iphone 4's, because my daughter has cancer, BUT I do care about other peoples feelings as far as using my stuff! she called me in WDW, and I told her I would call back when at the resort....I do NOT like to be rude like others here seem to think they are entitled to be.

and guess what? I just called my daughter in MY house from my iphone so I could see my grandson via facetime!! do I do it in the parks, or driving, or in the stores when cashing out with something I am buying??? NO, that is just rude!

I do text...in the privacy of my own home...and I have zero tolerance for people in cars while talking and texting! period!

see, I have respect for peoples personal enjoyment...but maybe no more!

 

[Disneyadore]

Both DH and I own cell phones, but most of the time mine's off. I think his is on more but I don't really know. We both consider cell phones to be tools and we keep them in that realm. We simply didn't grow up with this kind of technology, therefore we can easily spend our days not having to depend on it.

As independant adults, we don't need to know every single miniscule detail about what's going on in each other's lives 24/7/365. I find that behavior to be narcissistic and distasteful. But that's just me. DH just doesn't have time for it and considers women who are that way to be "high maintenance".

I heartily agree.

It is one thing to have to put out fires from time to time using technology that interrupts other people around us. If/when that happens, we're mindful of those in our vicinity and take the time to step out of the mainstream to handle the emergency. It is quite another, and we see this MUCH more often than the emergencies, to be constantly talking (usually quite loudly) about mundane details and sharing experiences that are typically only important to the caller.

I mean really....do I absolutely have to find out right this red-hot minute from your end of the cell phone conversation in the bathroom that your neice just won 1st place in a recital? I don't like to flush while you're in the midst of being all excited and congratulatory, but sometimes I just gotta go before you wrap that call up.



Ah. That wasn't the one I was watching. This one was on the Discovery Channel entitled 9/11: After the Towers Fell

When the Twin Towers Collapsed on September 11, 2001, thousands were feared trapped beneath the tons of steel and rubble. Rescue Workers, family, and friends rushed to Ground Zero to save the buried. These are the stories of the race to rescue survivors.​

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like they're going to air it again, otherwise I would highly recommend it. There are some wonderful stories of family reunions amidst the sad stories of loss.

But I have to admit I was shocked to hear a conversation between a 911 operator and someone who was on their cell phone when the south tower actually collapsed. His last words were, "Oh God! Oh..." and then the line went dead. I couldn't believe they'd actually aired someone's dying telephone conversation. So for as many "comforting" calls you can come up with that support your theory about how cell phones are a wonderful thing, I can come up with just as many that bely that argument.

All we are asking is to have some consideration to those around you. While I'm sure it's incredibly important to you to be plugged into your loved ones who aren't in your immediate vicinity at this moment, it's definitely not incredibly important to those who have no clue who you are nor care about your agenda.

I know that's hard for y'all to hear, but you're just. not. that. important.

Unless you are the only human being on this planet who can give life-saving instructions that will save the life of the person on the other end of the phone (highly unlikely), your call is unnecessary and can be postponed until you've moved out of the mainstream of the immediate population.

No you didn't convince me at all.
And as I close my eyes I can see Walt walking through his parks whit a cell phone and a modern device to sketch and take notes and send them immediately to his home computer and talking to Lilian. I'm sure I have his blessing to use my cell phone whenever and wherever I like.

 

[Carly_Roach]

However, I wouldn't start a thread that asks for banning of Disney vacations. That's too extreme. Not sure why anyone would take the time stop and fixate on the who's and why's of someone texting at WDW in order to judge whether it's warranted or not.

Let's put some context around this, shall we? Just because someone vents about wanting to ban cell phones somewhere doesn't mean it's actually going to happen. It takes more than one or three or hundreds to actually get a law that bans something. Michigan recently banned texting while driving, but it took years before that law was actually enacted. The law against using the cell phone while driving is likely many years off even though people wanting that behavior banned have been campaigning for it for decades.

So while someone can think or ask that something to be banned, their wish isn't automatically enacted and we can no longer use our cell phones at WDW.

And I must be missing something because I'm not understanding the cruel comment.

The cruel comment was about the documentary I was watching. Imagine seeing the towers collapsing and knowing your DH was in one of those buildings. Now imagine getting a voice mail from him two days later, with TODAY'S date and time on it, telling you he can't get out. My first thought would be a ferociously hopeful one, that he's alive and is trapped in the rubble. I would be frantic trying to get to him; trying to get the rescuers to search the last place he called from (stairwell, basement, etc).

Then to find out that the call actually occurred two days ago, before the building fell, and that 6:05 this morning was the time the phone company finally unsnarled it's data and delivered the message.

Cruel. Cruel. Cruel. It would be like losing him all over again.

 

[Disneyadore]

yes, I have state of the art everything! 2 macbook pros' and a huge imac...2 iphone 4's, because my daughter has cancer, BUT I do care about other peoples feelings as far as using my stuff! she called me in WDW, and I told her I would call back when at the resort....I do NOT like to be rude like others here seem to think they are entitled to be.

and guess what? I just called my daughter in MY house from my iphone so I could see my grandson via facetime!! do I do it in the parks, or driving, or in the stores when cashing out with something I am buying??? NO, that is just rude!

I do text...in the privacy of my own home...and I have zero tolerance for people in cars while talking and texting! period!

see, I have respect for peoples personal enjoyment...but maybe no more!

Ooooooooo yes lets throw in the cancer card. Well let me tell you I have cancer myself and I have to get my blood tested every month and I have to keep in touch with my hospital to adjust my medicine.So another justified reason to use my cell phone.

 

[NatashaDisneyCM]

Ooooooooo yes lets throw in the cancer card. Well let me tell you I have cancer myself and I have to get my blood tested every month and I have to keep in touch with my hospital to adjust my medicine.So another justified reason to use my cell phone.

you are just one rude little person aren't you????? are you 26 yo new mom with malignant melanoma? I do not think so.....and yes, I had cancer three times.....it did not give me a green card to just be so rude as you are!! nor my DD....so I am completely done here with the likes of you! oh cell phones cause cancer!!~

 

[RayaniFoxmur]

Is anyone else just absolutely confused by this thread at this point?

 

[Carly_Roach]

No you didn't convince me at all.

I'm not trying to convince you, nor would I expect to. Our priorities and values aren't the same and likely never will be. I'm simply stating my opinion about how I feel about people who have no consideration for those around them.

I was raised to be courteous and respectful of other people; that we are all important and that my time isn't any more valuable or worthy than anyone elses time - from the CEO right down to the homeless person.

We were raised with certain values when it comes to our neighbors on this planet: You don't make a tremendous amount of noise after 10:00pm out of consideration for people who might be sleeping. You don't interrupt other people because what you think what you have to say is more important than what they're saying. You don't speak loudly in a movie theatre because others are trying to focus on the film they paid to see.

The list goes on. The gist is that you have consideration for others; that you're not the only person in the world and 99.9% of the population isn't focuesed on you, what you're going to do next and what your current personal drama is. You are NOT a movie star.

As I said before this kind of behavior is narcissistic; a value our parents taught us was ugly, unkind and without any sort of redemption whatsoever. A behavior to be avoided. I wouldn't expect someone with an attitude of, "I'm going to do whatever I want and the hell with anyone else" to be understanding or "convinced" of that particular value.

 

[NatashaDisneyCM]

Is anyone else just absolutely confused by this thread at this point?

ya, me for one...I just stated a fact about what is going on in the parks...and people who do this sort of stuff just came out of the wood work!!

 

[Disneyadore]

Then to find out that the call actually occurred two days ago, before the building fell, and that 6:05 this morning was the time the phone company finally unsnarled it's data and delivered the message.

Cruel. Cruel. Cruel. It would be like losing him all over again.

Well NO. I would be very very comforted knowing that my beloved one was trying to call me in times of desperate needs and knowing he or she was facing dead.

You must be totally living on a pink cloud believing that after the towers collapsed and than two days later you could get a call from a living beloved one.

 

[NatashaDisneyCM]

Well NO. I would be very very comforted knowing that my beloved one was trying to call me in times of desperate needs and knowing he or she was facing dead.

You must be totally living on a pink cloud believing that after the towers collapsed and than two days later you could get a call from a living beloved one.

I have no clue what it is you are trying to prove, but I think that "I am walking on sunshine" has a lot to do with it....get your head out of the clouds please...

 

[RayaniFoxmur]

ya, me for one...I just stated a fact about what is going on in the parks...and people who do this sort of stuff just came out of the wood work!!

I'm talking about more my confusion WITH you.

You're so angry at people who use the cell phone outside their home.
You're preoccupied with other people's vacations to the point of anger about what they're doing on it.
You've been offering up information about things no one asked about.
You are seemingly bragging about your possessions and vacations.

None of it is adding up to me.