Disney Vacation Club adjusts 2010 Vacation Points charts

[Plutofan]

they are gone.... for now.....

They left up the Vero point charts

 

[DebbieB]

Actually you would need to borrow 1 point the first year, 2 points the next year, 3 points the next year, 4 points the next year, etc., if my math is right at this hour of the evening.

You're right. Assuming, they don't change them again. It will still take a long time to where you run out and will have to skip a year.

2009: 205
2010: 205 + 1 2011
2011: 204 + 2 2012
2012: 203 + 3 2013

 

[dizzneebabe]

The only thing I see for 2010 is DCL points.

 

[Plutofan]

Just on a side note I was booking a cash reservation through member services and just realized that when I do a cash reservation and there is no discount available I am paying the same price as everyone else (non DVC people) BUT they get maid service. I spend all this money and non members get more service in this situation than members. DVC members really get burnt... Just thought I would add some bad policies that DVC has to the fire....

 

[kikiq]

ETA: My guide clearly explained the shifting of points to me - I'm sure they've all been trained on how to present it, but some folk are better than others at explaining. I will agree that when determining how many points to initially buy DVC has told their reps to have us pick the vacation we'd like to have every year and buy enough points to civer that... and they do push full weeks. This approach may make those who buy just enough to cover S-Th stays feel like they've been duped. Not so. It's just when figuring your points required for your stay, you forgot to take into account that they may shift up or down.

YES, YES, YES...I was beginning to think that my guide was the only guide who explained how the point system work (until my eyes crossed). I think she repeated herself several times and did different scenarios for my DH's benefit, because I was clear that the TOTAL resort points didn't change BUT the season/day points may change at ANY time. The phrase I remember was "IF the points decrease for this weekend night THEN they have to go up some other night." We went through several different ways to use points and ended up buying a tad more to take in account a change in the way we may want to vacation.

 

[starbox]

But wrong in what sense, if not legally or ethically?

Things can be wrong without being unethical or illegal. For example, I think it was "wrong" for Disney to get rid of the Mickey-shaped butter at CRT and the glow-in-the dark Sci Fi Diner mugs. Legal - sure, Ethical - sure - but I still think they were wrong decisions.

My motto: Don't ruin the magic.

 

[dizzneebabe]

You're right. Assuming, they don't change them again. It will still take a long time to where you run out and will have to skip a year.

2009: 205
2010: 205 + 1 2011
2011: 204 + 2 2012
2012: 203 + 3 2013

Yep, you're right. That's even WORSE! If I have a banked 2009 BLT point from this year, will I be able to use it to book at 11 months for AKV ?

 

[twebber55]

Look, I purchased 2 years ago. Prior to the purchase, I inquired about that clause. My investigations uncovered that the clause really didn't mean much ...there was a "minor" change in points allocations at OKW. And, I've since learned, that BWV had some adjustments prior to the sales being completed. Other than that, there really weren't any changes.

Say you purchased 350 points at VWL and planned to use those points to stay in a one bedroom for one week every year during the Premiere Season. Then, the Premiere Season was changed to 450 points for the week. Naturally, Magic season was reduced by 70 points and Dream season was reduced by 30 points in order to make it legal under the contract. Wouldn't that upset you in the least if you specifically planned to vacation in Premiere season?[/QUOTE

Absolutely, but there's a difference between being upset about the change and claiming that you have been wronged by DVC.

Hey Puncing are you a mich fan iused to live in ypsi and love the big Blue....i do not think ive been wronged i just dont like it...it certainly is legal i m on the wrong side of the fence this time..just my choosing of the word wrong..nothing here done illegally just i dont think it is the right thing to do

 

[mykidslovesdisney]

I have logged into mbr page but when I click on 2010 point charts it reopens the home page for DVC. It does not do this if I click on 2009 point charts. Any assistance would the greatly appreciated. I am nervous bc we pay cash on wkends and worry we will not have enough points now for the week. We usually stay 8 nights.

thanks in advance

 

[Chuck S]

Just on a side note I was booking a cash reservation through member services and just realized that when I do a cash reservation and there is no discount available I am paying the same price as everyone else (non DVC people) BUT they get maid service. I spend all this money and non members get more service in this situation than members. DVC members really get burnt... Just thought I would add some bad policies that DVC has to the fire....

Well, it's true you won't get made service, but there is a good possibility with the CRO reservation that you would need to move. Booking through DVC gives you a continuous stay. For one night, for me, the convenience of not moving would trump the maid service. For several nights, I'd probably opt for the CRO reservation.

 

[jgus]

Go Blue!

And I agree it's not a "good decision"

 

[Chuck S]

I have logged into mbr page but when I click on 2010 point charts it reopens the home page for DVC. It does not do this if I click on 2009 point charts. Any assistance would the greatly appreciated. I am nervous bc we pay cash on wkends and worry we will not have enough points now for the week. We usually stay 8 nights.

thanks in advance

The 2010 charts and the notice (the headline is still there) have been taken offline, at least temporarily.

 

[mykidslovesdisney]

thanks for letting me know. I am worried we will not have enough pts to stay as long as we do. guess I will have to sit and wait

 

[jekjones1558]

If I have a banked 2009 BLT point from this year, will I be able to use it to book at 11 months for AKV ?

No--you could only use that point at 7 months if it is from a different resort.

 

[RobDoc]

Having gone thru this once before, I must say I'm disappointed and surprised.

I have been saying for years that while the points can be reallocated that has happened only once, at OKW in 1996, and that I don't expect any change in the near future. DVC has had opportunity to modify the point charts to reflect usage each time a new resort has opened and SSR and AKV did have different point charts than any of the prior resorts.

I'm really surprised to see that even AKV has changed. I was able to look at OKW and HH before DVC removed the new charts from the member site and was very surprised at the changes. They will affect us a little bit - especially since we just sold a contract - but we will survive and modify our future plans accordingly.

We all need to be aware of the provisions in the POS and truly do NOT listen to any rhetoric from the DVC guides about points not changing. They have now changed twice in the past 13 years. The change for 1996 was announced in the fall of 1994 - we have traditonally received the new point charts about 15 months in advance - but this time we still have nothing in print and DVC has now even taken down the electronic notice from the member's site. We are within 5 days of being able to reserve for 2010 and nothing "official" has been sent out or even been made available on the member site.

Stay Tuned!

 

[Donald is #1]

Very interesting, in my case I think that it will basically balance out. My stays tend to be 7-10 days so I think that I will be ok.

 

[ABCanada]

I have not seen the new charts but my two cents based on the comments.

If this change decreases unit turnover, people no longer moving to lower ‘cost’ accommodation for the weekend, hopefully it will decrease housekeeping and front desk costs and therefore soften the increases in our maintenance fee. For a 12 day DVC stay where you move to either a lower cost DVC unit or resort room you have two more check ins and one more full cleaning than the same stay staying put. I would not want to limit stays to weekly basis but I think we should have a point system that encourages people to minimize the turnover and maximize the total occupancy.

Hopefully this increases the total occupancy of the units which should benefit everyone.

Also the ratio of points between studio, one and two bedroom units did seem a bit off and was different from the cash rate ratio. While a one bedroom is generally twice the size of a studio, given they sleep the same number, I doubt the housekeeping etc is twice the cost. It is hard to understand why a one bedroom was more than twice a studio but a two bedroom which sleeps twice as many as a one bedroom and has 50% more space only requires 30% more points. They maybe realigning the points to improve total occupancy.

 

[Starr W.]

Dean how could they put a min stay if the whole "sell" of DVC is you can use your points anyway you want for any length of stay? just wondering..

Wyndham during busy seasons requires 3-4 night stays to check in or check out on Friday, Saturday or Sunday.

Or DVC could make you wait until the 7 month mark to make any reservation less than a week.

 

[Weluvdisny]

Anyone have BWV points saved? I'm renting points for January 8-10, 2010 and I need to know how many points to ask for.

 

[PutnamDS]

I must be blind. . I cant find it on the member site, under news or the point chart. . .

I can't find it either - and it is not under the 2010 section - at least on my computer!

deb