Disney promoting obesity

[fla4fun]

Being a Pooh sized guest, I've had more than my fair share of people interested in what I eat in the World. It's extremely annoying because it's really nobody's business but mine. I also frequently disappoint them in how little I'm eating, because I rarely get dessert or an appetizer. It's like they expect me to load up the table and they're confused when that doesn't happen. Don't be so quick to judge a person by their looks or their size, because you haven't walked in their shoes. There are people who are overweight/obese because they are lazy or eat too much, and there are people who have other underlying issues that make it difficult to manage weight. There's no way you can tell just by looking. Believe me, I've fought this battle for years, with no end in sight.

We should all just go to the World and have a great time enjoying our own vacations, and leave the other guests to enjoy theirs, including if, when, and how much they choose to eat.

 

[Lewisc]

The character meals are all buffet or serve "all you care to eat". That promotes obesity far more than the dining plan.

Guests on the dining plan have the option of ordering salad as an appetizer, can generally get some kind of fruit as dessert and can certainly skip appetizers and/or dessert. Disney has the dining plan priced low enough so guests can generally skip appetizers and desserts and still get "their monies worth".

 

[bicker]

Disney has the dining plan priced low enough so guests can generally skip appetizers and desserts and still get "their monies worth".

Absolutely. Here's the proof:

http://brianandrobbie.com/DiningPlanEstimatedCostsNoAppyNoDessert.htm

 

[Disfan3]

We would often share 2 or three meals between the 5 of us and save the other credits for breakfast. We used unused credits to buy Mickey Rice Crispy treats at DTD and take them home as gifts to family and friends!

I think the DDP is a VALUE if used correctly. Not once did we pay oop for a meal or snack or anything. (Except for a lapu lapu I HAD to try once!) We don't do alcohol usually.

I do not think Disney is promoting obesity. Not at all. People have plenty of choices there at WDW and Casey's hot dogs are not on the most nutritious of lists I am sure!! We ate there and took our desserts back to our room. The five of us shared two meals!!! YES TWO!! The kids can all share one FL hot dog and I cut it in threes and me and DH shared a meal. There was plenty. I think people choose to overeat for whatever reasons. I have lost 50 pounds and went from a sz 14 to 4 so I think I know what I am talking about here. No one puts that food...the wrong food...the wrong PORTIONS in my mouth. No one ties my butt to the sofa every night. I get on my treadmill or go on a walk or do my FIRM tapes. It is a lifestyle choice. Buffets have many salad and veggie items to choose from. I even saw some low fat- low cal desserts being offered at some places. It is all what you choose to put in your mouth that causes obesity. I can't blame anyone but myself for my size and poor choices waaay back then but I can tell you, I will never go back to that again. A fit sz 4 is a lot more fun at Typhoon Lagoon in a bikini thats for sure

ps...

this in no way is meant to slam those who are pooh sized as you might call it...not in any way. I am just sharing my OWN feelings about being 5'2 and nearly 180 pounds at one point in my life...Sorry I it sounds like I am saying I am better, I am NOT saying that. I am saying I PERSONALLY AM HAPPIER AT MY CURRENT WEIGHT AND SZ and YES it matters to ME.

thanks guys!

 

[SimbaNoodle]

I am also addicted to food. I am a 38 year old male who has lost 53 lbs. this year. I will be trying the ddp for the first time in 8 days. I intend to use my new knowledge to make good choices and not overdue. I will also be hitting bcv gym each day.

I don't think Disney is promoting obesity.

 

[graygables]

I think there is a bit of a legitimate community concern with regard to "what other people eat". We all pay the costs for obesity in our society. Our society is a generous society, where to some extent medical care is available for the indigent. Sure, it isn't as good as the medical care available to the affluent, but it still is offered, and it still costs society money to provide. All acts a person commits onto themself that adversely affects their own healthy adversely impacts society in that way. The effect might be indirect, but it isn't inconsequential.

What does health care for the indigent have to do with obesity? Your assumption somehow is that obese people are uninsured or otherwise unable to pay their medical bills. FYI, both my 10yo and I have weight issues. We both have medical disorders, none of which are anyone's "fault" and we are taking medication and under a physician's care. Neither of us have health insurance AND neither of us depend on our, oh-so-"generous society" for our care. We pay for it all OOP. I agree with the mind your own beeswax crowd.

Being a Pooh sized guest, I've had more than my fair share of people interested in what I eat in the World. It's extremely annoying because it's really nobody's business but mine. I also frequently disappoint them in how little I'm eating, because I rarely get dessert or an appetizer. It's like they expect me to load up the table and they're confused when that doesn't happen. Don't be so quick to judge a person by their looks or their size, because you haven't walked in their shoes. There are people who are overweight/obese because they are lazy or eat too much, and there are people who have other underlying issues that make it difficult to manage weight. There's no way you can tell just by looking. Believe me, I've fought this battle for years, with no end in sight.

We should all just go to the World and have a great time enjoying our own vacations, and leave the other guests to enjoy theirs, including if, when, and how much they choose to eat.

 

[bicker]

What does health care for the indigent have to do with obesity? Your assumption somehow is that obese people are uninsured or otherwise unable to pay their medical bills.

I thought my message made that clear. That is indeed the case. Obesity is a known contributor to myriad medical conditions, all of which cost money to treat, and for the indigent that cost is borne by society.

I'm not flying a flag either way in that debate (at least I haven't in this thread so far) -- I'm just saying that the concern that some folks express is legitimate. Our personal actions do have societal consequences, albeit indirect. Whether society has a reciprocal right in that regard is a strictly political decision, and of course reasonable people disagree on political issues like that. Neither side can legitimately tell the other to stop believing what they believe.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

I am wondering why people seem so concerned in what other people eat.

Putting on flame suit first.
I wonder this too. I guess it's the same reason these same people are so concerned about what others wear and whether or not other people's kids are in strollers. I'm there to have fun and as long as others aren't directly rude/bothering me I don't care what others do or how they raise their kids. I think I would barely take notice unless someone was screaming at or hitting their child.
Just MHO.

 

[bicker]

Well, let's play devil's advocate some more: Why are there people who care who other people sleep with?

 

[nanadeb]

Oh! I've got it!
Since obesity is such a drain on society as a whole, we'll just have people weigh in at the grocery store check out and at each restaurant before they can order and/or pay for their food. If the server or cashier feels that the food they want to purchase is too much or the wrong kind for that person, they can have the bouncer boot them out.
Or maybe the server can bring the guest what he or she thinks the guest should have.
Wait a minute-- we are looking at this all the wrong way. The weigh in should be done at the Disney gates. If the person is too fat for their height, they will have to wear a prominent sign that will dictate what food they can eat and what rides they will be allowed to ride on. Anyone seen removing their sign will promptly be escorted out of the park.
Now, if we canonly do something with those screaming children.......

 

[PlutoLuvr]

Let me preface this by saying I don't care what people eat. The only thing I do care about is: If you try something new and good, please let me know

However, when we were down in WDW in September -- during the free DDP -- it was impossible not to notice the huge amounts of food coming out from CS places. I mean, family after family after family, a whole tray of sodas, which is all Mom could carry back to the table; she hurries back to the food pickup area to get a whole tray of fries; then Dad returns to quickly grab the whole tray of slices of carrot cake; then he returns to get a tray of sandwiches or burgers.

Honestly, the only reason I even noticed it was because it was putting a strain on the way the queues are constructed -- it's pretty hard to get back there once you've left. Folks have to get out of the way for you to come back, and the kitchen servers seemed a bit hesitant to put, for example, my food on the queue when the customer before me hadn't gotten all of theirs. And it wasn't just, say, a group of six or eight or more. It was practically every family, small and large groups.


We had lunch at only three CS places at WDW and witnessed this every time:
Pinocchio Village Haus at MK
The CS place outside of Mexico at Epcot
Tusker House at AK

And I am NOT food police. I can state with certainty that my insurance premiums will go up no matter what the average American's BMI is. I believe in live and let live; to each his own; survival of the fittest. I am a Libertarian and proud of it

But waiting in line at Tusker at 11:20 in the morning, in the dead of September -- longest wait we had all week on any ride was 10 minutes -- with five families ahead of us (total on both sides -- two on our side of the cashier, three on the other side of the cashier) took 45 minutes. Now, that I do notice. And the CMs were working very hard. This wasn't a poor service issue. This was just how long it took to get 20, 25 trays of food back to a few tables.

Is WDW contributing to obesity? No more so than any other major corporation in the restaurant industry. We're a nation that likes our meal deals, our drinks, sides and entrees all grouped into one low price -- and supersized for an extra $0.50. You can go to any chain restaurant, and it will cost you less to order three items linked to a "plan" or "deal" than it would for you to order two of those same items separately. Why should WDW do differently and cause guests to go offsite to Applebee's or Friday's?

 

[TDC Nala]

Well, let's play devil's advocate some more: Why are there people who care who other people sleep with?

They shouldn't. Unless it's a minor. Or it's their own spouse and the person being slept with isn't them. They shouldn't care what other people eat, either.

 

[smidgy]

geez people, my DH and I LOVE disneyl we are the original cooler in the room with the salami and baloney sandwhiches, coleslaw and mac salad people.
we first experienced the dining plan with the FREE dining package.disney did the marketing well... we purchased it on our next may trip.
my hubby is a machinist. I am a CLEANING LADY!!! (to you yuppies, a MAID), I am also a bartender. (yes, in the service industry) the free dining plan gave us a chance to experience dining expereinces we would not have been able to before. since in my day to day life, I am ALWAYS serving others (and do a DARN good job of it, I might add), I LOVE being treated like royalty when my DH and I visit disney. I LOVE the opportunity to order entrees I normally could only look at with longing. we sacrifice to visit disney once (ok , lately twice) a year) but we work our butts off all year long for it. since the DDP, I actully get to order the filet mignon, or the lobster tail, and hey!!! maybe I'll get the shrimp cocktail, let's SPLUGE!!!! WOW us blue collar workers love the feeling of SPLURGING. by the way, the 17-18% tip that is included, I ALWAYS add to it. when ever I eat out, I always tip at least 20%, unless the service is poor.(hint hint)
now we try to go if we can during the free dining, but if we can't afford it another time, split out stay between 2 dif. disney resorts (ALWAYS stay on site) and buy the DDP for part of the stay. In my REAL life, I cook, I clean, I serve. when I am on vacation, God bless disney, I am treated like royalty, and i order accordingly. (and I hope you all treat your servers the same... they deserve it!)

 

[bicker]

They shouldn't. Unless it's a minor. Or it's their own spouse and the person being slept with isn't them.

It would be nice if people would just accept that and let others love whom they wish, especially since (unlike the whole obesity/indigent/medical expenses thing) there is no cost to others from someone's sexual preference. However, unfortunately, we don't live in that world, yet.

 

[Uncleromulus]

That's enough for this thread.
Health care and sexual preferences are matters for some other forum.