Disney Princess Lingerie

[lauradis]

I think you are taking my quote a little to literally. It's a paraphrase on a movie quote:

"Spandex: it's a privilege, not a right" (Hackers 1995)

I've heard one version or another used quite often when someone is talking about dressing for a body type.

I suspect most people being honest would think it looks good on some people and not on others. That is my opinion at least. Yours may be different and that is fine.

Ohh stop having an opinion. Lol.

 

[bigbabyblues]

I know it is technically categorized as lingerie, but whenever I hear that word I think sexy. Those are just bras and panties. (I'm still not interested and my husband wouldn't be either.)

I do too...nighties and such. Not granny panties with big bows on them.

 

[Jex]

I'm not trying to pile on, FireDancer, this thread is not about your comments, but I just wanted to give my thoughts. Please take the following comments in the spirit they're given. I'm hoping my post gives you some insight into why NHdisneylover and others (including myself) respond to many of your posts as we do.

NHdisneylover raises a good point, which is that whenever there is a thread that has a body image / weight / "can I rock this look" type of lean to it, even in the tiniest way (like this one) you always seem to be there to jump in and comment on how A) you only find thin women attractive / only a certain body type should wear certain things, and B) you don't know why everyone is so sensitive when you give that opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinions, but it's the part B that rubs people the wrong way.

I don't know you, but I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're a good person who doesn't set out to be rude. But to not recognize that hurt feelings or misunderstandings often happen when you make such comments is a bit obtuse. From that, I draw two conclusions: either A) your meaning and intention is lost in translation from what it sounds like in your head to what it sounds like when typed on a message board, or B) you don't care that what you say hurts people, even when you don't think it should. I'd rather assume the former.

Yes, it's a message board and people should feel free to express their opinions. I like it that we don't all agree with each other 100% of the time, that would be boring. But it just seems a bit odd to me, that after reading your posts for the last few years, you seem to have a hard time grasping why people are offended by what you say, when it happens over and over and over again.

I don't say any of this to rebuke you for giving your opinion, or to stop you from doing so, but just to give you a friendly insight into why NHdisneylover and others respond to some of your posts as we do.

Been awhile since I got some points,so I will take them for this. Others think it, it may as well be said, firedancer is a bully. Bottom line he either grew up overweight or lanky, he has since Figuered out to eat right and workout, and now thinks he is the greatest guy ever. That his "new body" make up for his stunning personality, and his "I wasn't being mean, or judgmental, you misunderstood me" lines.
However thier seems to be a few "groupies"on here that like his avitar pics so they follow his everyword.

Of course this is just my opinion, and reminds me of myself when I was younger.

 

[aaarcher86]

Been awhile since I got some points,so I will take them for this. Others think it, it may as well be said, firedancer is a bully. Bottom line he either grew up overweight or lanky, he has since Figuered out to eat right and workout, and now thinks he is the greatest guy ever. That his "new body" make up for his stunning personality, and his "I wasn't being mean, or judgmental, you misunderstood me" lines. However thier seems to be a few "groupies"on here that like his avitar pics so they follow his everyword. Of course this is just my opinion, and reminds me of myself when I was younger.

I don't really see him picking on anyone for being overweight, so I wouldn't say he's a bully. Obviously it's well known he likes fit chicks and he's not afraid to speak up about it and maybe not in the most appropriate of ways. I haven't personally been offended.

Bully though? I think that's kind of a stretch.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

I don't really see him picking on anyone for being overweight, so I wouldn't say he's a bully. Obviously it's well known he likes fit chicks and he's not afraid to speak up about it and maybe not in the most appropriate of ways. I haven't personally been offended. Bully though? I think that's kind of a stretch.

I haven't been offended either...

I'm really not concerned with what some dude on the internet says.

"But he's insulting and demeaning all women!" they say.

Yeah. Cause they choose to be. Be strong in who you are and have some confidence. If you are, it doesn't matter what he, or anyone like him says.

 

[lisaviolet]

Ohh stop having an opinion. Lol.

Huh?

(Laura, I understood your comment and its sarcasm and wit. I mean in general. )

That's what we do here on the DIS. Give opinions and counter.

Bully though? I think that's kind of a stretch.

I personally don't think he's a bully. In fact, I could be labeled one to go after him today in my first post.

I haven't been offended either...

I'm really not concerned with what some dude on the internet says.

"But he's insulting and demeaning all women!" they say.

Yeah. Cause they choose to be. Be strong in who you are and have some confidence. If you are, it doesn't matter what he, or anyone like him says.

Well I'll speak for me here.

I was not offended by simply commenting on his thoughts/statements. Nor do I lack anything to gain. And in the grand scheme of life, doesn't matter one iota.

I was questioning him. And countering his thoughts. I enjoy that part. That's me.

And just simply giving it back to him, big picture. Smaller picture, I think privilege is - well I can't say because I enjoy my time here. And like I already said don't really understand always thinking you're right and not seeing the other side of what one says. Cause that's the response every single time. Or it was a joke.

But that's me. Little old meek me.

 

[bookgirl]

Hot or Not?

http://www.neatorama.com/2014/01/03/Disney-Princess-Lingerie/#!r5CIM

I love it!

I'm going to go with EWWWW.

As far as the side topic....there are some posters who can give an opinion and still be respectful and some who can't. There are many names for those who can't, and they all cost points, some posters aren't worth the bother.

 

[DWGal210]

I wouldn't say a bully, either; I don't think that's the intention. I should have probably kept my mouth shut (that'd be a first) but in reading some of the back-and-forth in previous pages I was in the mood to give my two cents.

Now for some wine.

 

[Laura66]

I don't know - I didn't find what firedancerr said offensive at all. You like what you like! How many threads here talk about good looking young women being with old wrinkly men? Beating up women they suspect of getting plastic surgery?
Remember the old SNL skit where Chris Farley and Patrick Swayze were auditioning for a chippindales (sp) position? We'll call me shallow but I thought Chris Farley was nasty and Patrick Swayze was hot! Sorry I did! That's why the skit was so funny'
Listen I was HOT when I was younger and before I had kids! Now I'm overweight and out of shape. I have no one to blame but myself! Back then I'm sure the Hubs would have loved me to wear something like that! Now - um, not so much! That would not be sexy at all! And in no way am I offended by that! Dear Lord I don't wanna see myself in something like that!

 

[java]

Instead of princess stuff it should be villains based!

 

[lisaviolet]

I don't know - I didn't find what firedancerr said offensive at all. You like what you like! How many threads here talk about good looking young women being with old wrinkly men? Beating up women they suspect of getting plastic surgery?
Remember the old SNL skit where Chris Farley and Patrick Swayze were auditioning for a chippindales (sp) position? We'll call me shallow but I thought Chris Farley was nasty and Patrick Swayze was hot! Sorry I did! That's why the skit was so funny'
Listen I was HOT when I was younger and before I had kids! Now I'm overweight and out of shape. I have no one to blame but myself! Back then I'm sure the Hubs would have loved me to wear something like that! Now - um, not so much! That would not be sexy at all! And in no way am I offended by that! Dear Lord I don't wanna see myself in something like that!

Around and around we go.

Does anyone read the posts? (not you Laura, in general)

I'll say it one more time.

I had ZERO issue with him saying what he prefers in attraction. ZERO, and said so. In fact, I think that's normal and natural.

Privilege was the issue for me on wearing lingerie. (and it's a movie line. - and a movie I loved weirdly enough)

I don't know why there is so many posts about why can't he give his opinion about what he likes. Of course he can. Why couldn't he? As can you. Why shouldn't you?

He can even say it should be a privilege to wear lingerie.

But then in turn we can comment on the privilege word and/or counter his thoughts and not to made out to be lacking confidence, or lead a miserable life, making it all about us or whatever has been thrown out there.

Okay, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone tonight with all of this, seriously. There are some nights that I simply should lock a computer.

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And the skit that you brought up. Took me right back to where I was at the time and who I was with watching it. Hysterical. Fun times.

My guess is 1990 or 1991 on that.

 

[lisaviolet]

Instead of princess stuff it should be villains based!

Now that I might be down with. (probably not but more than Cinderella and friends!)

But then I would be afraid that Ursula might be dragged into this conversation.

 

[kate_wdw]

I'm not sure why people take it so personal. There are plenty of things I wouldn't wear because they don't look right on me. No big deal.

I think people here take things way too seriously or internalize things that have nothing to do with them.

Because many women find it tedious and destructive to be continually reminded of society’s unrealistic expectations for their bodies and/or do not welcome others’ unsolicited opinions on what their body should look like.

You have repeatedly asserted your opinion of others’ bodies in contexts in which it was marginally relevant at best. The question was not “What is your physical type?” It was “Disney Princess Lingerie – hot or not?” You overstepped the line from critiquing objects (lingerie) to critiquing women’s bodies, which are most definitely not objects (based on your comments, it’s sometimes unclear if you get this), and whose purpose is much greater than being visually appealing to you or anyone else.

If you repeatedly find that others are offended by your opinions, particularly your opinion on a very specific topic, I would hope that you would try to apply a little bit of empathy or introspection to figure out why that is.


But to answer the OP’s question, I think these are going to appeal to a very small market. How many people could there possibly be who are 1) into Disney, 2) into role play, AND 3) into dowdy underwear?

 

[Laura66]

Now the Ursula look I probably can pull off - sigh . . .

 

[lisaviolet]

. .

Hey Laura, I just looked it up - it's a 1990 skit. Funny how I can remember it like it was yesterday - ie. what year in university and such - everything. SNL carries a lot of great memories. Totally made me smile.

 

[Laura66]

 

[aaarcher86]

Because many women find it tedious and destructive to be continually reminded of societys unrealistic expectations for their bodies and/or do not welcome others unsolicited opinions on what their body should look like. You have repeatedly asserted your opinion of others bodies in contexts in which it was marginally relevant at best. The question was not What is your physical type? It was Disney Princess Lingerie  hot or not? You overstepped the line from critiquing objects (lingerie) to critiquing womens bodies, which are most definitely not objects (based on your comments, its sometimes unclear if you get this), and whose purpose is much greater than being visually appealing to you or anyone else. If you repeatedly find that others are offended by your opinions, particularly your opinion on a very specific topic, I would hope that you would try to apply a little bit of empathy or introspection to figure out why that is. But to answer the OPs question, I think these are going to appeal to a very small market. How many people could there possibly be who are 1) into Disney, 2) into role play, AND 3) into dowdy underwear?

Eh, it's his opinion. He's not speaking directly to,anyone about it. Hell, he doesn't know what 90% of the women on this board look like.

It just seems pretty silly to get offended in any way by a stranger on the internet finding athletic and fit females attractive and heavier females not so attractive. Honestly, who who cares?! It says just as much about the people actually getting offended. If Firedancers posts are the biggest reminder of societal expectations I think your day has been pretty good.

If bothers people so much scroll past his posts. If you can't scroll past them, block him.

 

[FireDancer]

I didn't actually mean privileged, it was tongue in cheek. Many of the things I say that get taken as serious are tongue in cheek.

Look, I like what I like. I am not PC. I am not afraid to say what I think, even if it is contrary to most of the posters here. Which, I'd say, is quite normal considering I fall outside of the main demographic here.

I speak most of the time in generalities, not about anyone specific. With very few exceptions I don't know who looks like what here. My general comments are not aimed at a particular person and they should not be read as though they are. Yet, my general opinions are often responded to with personal attacks. And that isn't in the literal sense of the word, just general things aimed at no-one in particular get responses aimed directly at someone particular.

As for bullying...if some guy who you have never met can "bully" you on a moderated message board that has an ignore feature you have much bigger issues then me.

Anyway, I appreciate the conversation and that it usually remains civil. I have no problems disagreeing with people and even those of you whom I almost always disagree with I like. I might not agree with your perspective on things and that is fine. I try not to personally attack anyone because we don't agree on things...even if we adamantly disagree.

 

[kate_wdw]

It just seems pretty silly to get offended in any way by a stranger on the internet finding athletic and fit females attractive and heavier females not so attractive. Honestly, who who cares?! It says just as much about the people actually getting offended. If Firedancers posts are the biggest reminder of societal expectations I think your day has been pretty good.

If bothers people so much scroll past his posts. If you can't scroll past them, block him.

I never said I was personally offended by his posts (because I'm not). But I think they're part of a larger societal pattern that's damaging, so I'm going to call that out. I don't think there's anything "silly" about that.

I'm unclear why you think it's okay for one poster to repeatedly post his own opinions but expect posters who disagree with them to say nothing.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

It's probably because I'm a guy, but I totally understand what FireDancer was saying and I got the movie reference even though I never saw the movie.

There are certain pieces of clothes not made for certain body types. That's just the way things are. Let's go with a man as an example: Ever see Borat's swimsuit? Picture that on a 400 lb man. It just doesn't look good.