Disney Next-Gen REVEALED!

[Disco]

I don't know that you can claim to "get it" any better than anyone else since we're all reading so many tea leaves here as much of the specifics are yet to be made public.

However, TSM is an outlier. You can't use that as a reason to redo everything, because it's not the typical experience.

I don't use touring plans. I never make rope drop. Yet I rarely wait in long lines. TSM is the only ride I have trouble getting on -- and you know what? I can live with that if it means not having to plan months ahead of time.

And you still won't have to with the added bonus of being more entertained while spending less time in line.
Maybe you're right though. You probably won't be able to get on any rides because they were reserved by someone else three months ago. Bummer, better not go to DW again.

 

[nytimez]

And you still won't have to with the added bonus of being more entertained while spending less time in line.
Maybe you're right though. You probably won't be able to get on any rides because they were reserved by someone else three months ago. Bummer, better not go to DW again.

"Rolling eyes," sarcasm and telling people they're "not getting it" isn't exactly the best way to make your point.

 

[ChrisFL]

LOL, so many of you are not getting it.
The billion is for an entire range of improvements many that have already been implemented. Disney has already increased the average daily attraction attendance by 10%. They expect to over double that. It doesn't matter how many freaking rides they build if you can't get on them (TSM anyone?). That's a hard concept to swallow but Disney cannot build an infinite amount of rides for a finite amount of people to ride whenever they want. Even if they build an entire new park they are going to staff rides based on what attendance they are bringing in. So, I promise you this, even with a brand new park overall wait times for attractions are going to be just as long.
With this new "reserve" rides from home system you don't have to use it and guess what, unlike ADR's, you're not actually reserving rides. You're basically requesting a fast pass ahead of time to get on a ride. World of difference.
The benefit for everyone is this. Disney now has a sampling of data telling them what specific rides are going to be the busiest at what time of day. This allows them to preemptively deploy crowd control measures and to staff more accurately.
It all comes down to how many people they can process through a ride per hour per CM. Increasing this by 20% has huge ramifications. It means less time standing in line, more time having fun and more time for shopping. It also means more people visiting and more money for expansions.
I love new rides as much as all of you, but my overall park experience is affected more by how much time I waste in lines, getting tickets and traveling between locals.
You can have the greatest most immersive ride in the world but if I waste a whole day standing in line I will be pissed.

Ok a lot of things to note here. First, Disney already knows how long the lines are at a specific time, and how many fastpasses are going out for what times of day.

Second, standing in line doesn't have to be "wasting time" if it sets you up for the story of the attraction.

Even if they build a brand new park, overall wait times will be just as long? huh? What about ride capacity?

 

[eliza61]

Crap crap crap!!!!! Do besides having to make ADR's 180 days in advance now I need to boom rides in advance. Wow so much strolling around the parks now I have to reserve rides. Wow Disney do I need to reserve the bathroom in the parks as well!!!!

Not sure how making people book rides in advance before they leave home enhances the guest experience (unless they're an insanely OCD planner)

Man, I already hate the fact that you know have to have a plan of attack worthy of the allied d-day invasion simply to ride TSM. now I'm going to have to decide 8 months in advance which rides to ride.

 

[eliza61]

LOL, so many of you are not getting it.
The billion is for an entire range of improvements many that have already been implemented. Disney has already increased the average daily attraction attendance by 10%. They expect to over double that. It doesn't matter how many freaking rides they build if you can't get on them (TSM anyone?). That's a hard concept to swallow but Disney cannot build an infinite amount of rides for a finite amount of people to ride whenever they want. Even if they build an entire new park they are going to staff rides based on what attendance they are bringing in. So, I promise you this, even with a brand new park overall wait times for attractions are going to be just as long.
With this new "reserve" rides from home system you don't have to use it and guess what, unlike ADR's, you're not actually reserving rides. You're basically requesting a fast pass ahead of time to get on a ride. World of difference.
The benefit for everyone is this. Disney now has a sampling of data telling them what specific rides are going to be the busiest at what time of day. This allows them to preemptively deploy crowd control measures and to staff more accurately.
It all comes down to how many people they can process through a ride per hour per CM. Increasing this by 20% has huge ramifications. It means less time standing in line, more time having fun and more time for shopping. It also means more people visiting and more money for expansions.
I love new rides as much as all of you, but my overall park experience is affected more by how much time I waste in lines, getting tickets and traveling between locals.
You can have the greatest most immersive ride in the world but if I waste a whole day standing in line I will be pissed.

1) Disney already knows this information.
2) and what happens if you're the traveler who has not signed up for the reserved time and you can't ride an attraction at all. How pissed will you be then after shelling out a couple of thousand of bucks.
3) just like adr and fastpasses have already proven, having advance "reservations' in no way equal not waiting in line.

 

[srutko1226]

Hello everyone. I have been lurking here and probably will go back to lurking.

I want to relax on vacation. Disney and other corporations need to understand that I will not tolerate their grand marketing plan, computer projections on profit margins or their crowd control program that they felt the need to have patented.... if it makes my vacation a job. I can just put the time into my real job and make money rather than spend it.

Let's do everything we can to take the "human" out of what for many is a magical experience. Let's get rid of the person who checks you in, let's hope that the kiosk that you swipe your card at can help you with a real problem. Let's be so impatient that we cannot wait in a line with our loved ones and friends for even 20 minutes...maybe we can have a meaningful conversation instead of trying to get enough bang for the buck.

Maybe we can access our next Disney experience over our PC....no need to wait in any line except if the server crashes.

 

[eliza61]

Hey I wonder if I could write a program to sign up for all the time on tower of terror!!

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

And what happens when a ride goes down or it rains. Those things aren't uncommon at Disney.

 

[diamondpixienc]

I like the idea. Except for the one flaw of a ride breaking down.

 

[brocklesnar69]

Yuck! Why waste a $BILLION Dollars on some silly "Reserve your ride online" thing when they could use that money to build more E-Ticket Attractions at all the parks?! Seriously! They could really beef up lacking areas in all the parks with some serious e-ticket rides. Animal Kingdom could get two more, Hollywood Studios could get 2-3 more, Epcot could get 2-3 more, and Magic Kingdom could get 2-3 more.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

I asgree with the more rides more options idea shorter line idea. The other way to mean what Disney really is trying to do is free up some shoping time for you. That said I respect Disney very much so far for not making the rich extra magic hours not showing favortism to people paying more money.

 

[nytimez]

I respect Disney very much so far for not making the rich extra magic hours not showing favortism to people paying more money.

But they are. You pay a premium to stay at a WDW hotel vs off-site, and EMH is part of what the premium gets you. And if you're rich enough, you get your own EMH -- big companies regularly rent the parks out for the night... for big money. Pay enough, and they'll even shut the parks down to regular guests a little early just so you could have your awesome party there.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

I love th e emh, but durring the day everyboddy is the same. I do not like Great aAventure pay exrtra to ride quicker policies.