Disney is going too far!

And well he should be! We've got to quit trying to be so politically correct at the expense of our heritage. There's nothing wrong with Saint Patrick's day, Saint Valentine's day or any of the other longtime holidays. These and many other things developed during the forming of our heritage and are thus part of it. Leave them alone and get over it. You as an individual don't have to celebrate it but don't try to change it and ruin it for those and enjoy it for what it is.

Amen to that! We always celebrated St. Patrick's Day every year in school. Heck, it was a week long celebration in our part of Texas. For the record, I never had a minute's trouble grasping the concept of St. Patrick's Day and am happy my parents didn't "simplify" it to a shamrock, etc. For that matter, DD was given a children's book about St. Patrick when she was 3-4 (her GMom brought it back from a trip to Ireland) and she had no difficulty with the concept either.

So it's St. Patrick's Day for us! :thumbsup2 And we'll keep our Christmas trees and stick the holiday trees where the sun don't shine. :rotfl2:
 
No matter an individuals opinion of education and how to educate, one thing cannot be disputed - Americans do NOT stack up well against their international counterparts. The % of high school students that do not read at grade level is appalling.

It is the laziest education system I have encountered (and I was educated in 3 different countries) and panders to the lowest achievers, rather than raising the bar, for fear we disappoint those that are average.

The "everyone's a winner" mentality has created a nation of average joes.
 
No matter an individuals opinion of education and how to educate, one thing cannot be disputed - Americans do NOT stack up well against their international counterparts. The % of high school students that do not read at grade level is appalling.

It is the laziest education system I have encountered (and I was educated in 3 different countries) and panders to the lowest achievers, rather than raising the bar, for fear we disappoint those that are average.

The "everyone's a winner" mentality has created a nation of average joes.

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I'm not a Christian and I still call it St. Patrick's day. It was a holiday created by Catholics, so I should respect that. Soon enough we're going to call Hannukah "Candleday" and Christmas "Treeday". It's kind of ridiculous.
 

Actually the principal was a she. The town this happened in once had a large Polish population. I don't really know what it is today because we have a lot of areas that are getting a large influx of Central & South Americans. When I first heard about the incident I wondered if she had changed Columbus Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas, MLK, or any of the Jewish Holidays that appear on the school calendars. I know that some School districts no longer specify the names of some of the holidays in order to be PC and ward off complaints. I'd like to see if this woman would have the audacity to go into Manhattan & ban all the various parades that occur each year that celebrate the many different heritages that are found in this country.
 
Actually the principal was a she. The town this happened in once had a large Polish population.
Wow - when I saw you mention this and where you live, I guessed that this was my hometown (which I haven't visited or lived in for several years). Sure enough, I was able to find a reference to this via web search! Kind of a weird way to see a reference to my (what used to be not so big) hometown...
 
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Paddy O'Brien: They're always after me lucky charms.

[Dr. Evil and Frau Farbissina laugh]

Paddy O'Brien: What? Why does everyone always laugh when I say that? They *are* after me lucky charms! What!

Frau Farbissina: It's a television commercial. With this cartoon leprechaun, and all of these children are trying to chase him, "Hey, leprechaun, leprechaun man, we want to get your lucky charms." Oh! And there are these little tiny pieces of mashmallow just stuck right in the cereal. So when the kids eat them they think, "Oooh this is candy, I'm having fun!"

:goodvibes:goodvibes
 
Ok, maybe I'm crazy, but sometimes Disney doesn't need to jump on the politically correct bandwagon. Is it me? What do you all think?

"Shamrock Day
Well, whaddya know ... something serendipitous has happened at Mickey Mouse's Clubhouse on this March day: A radiant rainbow has appeared, and below it, clovers of the greenest green have sprouted. What's behind this magical event? Why, it's Shamrock Day, friends, and it's time for the wearin' of the green and some happy-go-lucky party capers with Mickey and his pals!"
http://tv.disney.go.com/playhouse/grown-ups/celebrationcenter/home/shamrockday/index.html

I couldn't care less either way. Frankly, I think its become a stupid holiday anyway. Very few people know what the story behind it is... most people use it as an excuse to get way to drunk and make fools of themselves. Just like Valentine's day has become a Hallmark holiday, time to get rid of both of them.
 
Wow, this topic seems to be getting people angry lol. Anyway, I'm also a psyc major (actually reading my textbook right now about children's memory capabilities), so I thought I'd put my 2 cents in as well. It seems that very young children do not seem to have the ability to understand symbolism. A great article titled "The Credible Shrinking Room: Very Young Children's Performance With Symbolic and Nonsymbalic Relations" taken from Psychology Today, 1997, 8, addresses specifically this issue. An object was hidden in a miniature model of a room and the children were told to find the object in the larger room. Anyway, they found that children aged 2.5 years were unable to draw a relation betwen the miniaturized model of a room and the actual room itself, upholding their theory that very young children are unable to create "dual representations." Interestingly, when the children were told that the small room was actually the larger room and had been put in a "magic shrinking machine," 80% of the children had no problems finding the hidden object. It was not until age 5 I believe that children were able to construct the "dual representation."
Also, going along with psychological theory, one of Vygotsky's theories was that of the zone of proximal development-"the region of sensitivity for learning characterized by the difference between the developmental level of which the child is capable when working alone and the level she is capable of reaching with the aid of a more skilled partner." So, basically all children have a level at which they max out no matter how much you push them. If they do not already have above average intelligence, you cannot push them to reach a 1500 on their SAT no matter how hard you try. I know everyone has been posting about "dumbing down the schools" which to a certain extent is true. But if all lessons were structured around the most intelligent children, the children lowest in intelligence would lag behind. If you want to campaign for more gifted classes, etc, I'm all for it, but I don't think that the slower children should be punished with lessons way out of their understandings.

p.s. before I get all kinds of posts about how your child understands symbols etc, remember that there are always exceptions to everything.
 
Some groups or individuals (not sure exactly who) have been advocating changing St. Patrick's Day to Shamrock Day to remove the religious connotation.

What about St. Valentine's Day though?

seriously?
 
Why would you care enough to waste time doing something like that?
Maybe because he like many others care about preserving heritage and history and could give a rat's *** about political correctness! People are slowly but slowly destroying everything that makes up our heritage and memories of our childhood. There is nothing wrong with calling something Christmas, Saint Patrick's, Saint Valentine's or any of the many other things people are trying to change to become PC. More people need to be like Maistre Gracey and fight to save our heritage. :thumbsup2
 
Maybe because he like many others care about preserving heritage and history and could give a rat's *** about political correctness! People are slowly but slowly destroying everything that makes up our heritage and memories of our childhood. There is nothing wrong with calling something Christmas, Saint Patrick's, Saint Valentine's or any of the many other things people are trying to change to become PC. More people need to be like Maistre Gracey and fight to save our heritage. :thumbsup2

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