Disney Guest Services do NOT serve the Disabled in Need

Are you or is a member of your family that visits Disney Parks disabled?

  • Yes, I am and have visited Disney Parks recently.

  • Yes, I have visited Disney Parks recently with a disabled friend or family member.

  • No, I have not had any experience as a disabled guest in the Disney Parks.

  • No, I have not had any experience in the Disney Parks with a disabled friend or family member.


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CheshireCatt

Earning My Ears
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Where has simple human compassion gone for people who pay for and attend entertainment venues? Not to Disney's Guest Relations in the parks, that's for sure.

On November 19, 2014, I took advantage of the wonderful weather by going to Disney's EPCOT. The guest count was low so I didn't have to navigate through crowds. That is important because I am disabled; I cannot walk for more than a few minutes on level ground at a time without hazarding a fall. As I completed a long circuit of the World Showcase with many and several stops, I came to the stark realization that I could continue to walk without causing serious and painful damage to my legs and back. I took a chance for help at Guest Services fully expecting a human to human moment full of understanding and the desire to assist on the part of the cast member. The story was fairly well told in the email that I sent to Disney Guest Experience Services and is included next.

Hi, Miss Emily, how are things? (I sent the email to Miss Emily, a cast member who had on a previous occasion been extremely helpful and considerate - she is no longer in this position and I can only guess that is so because she was helpful and considerate).

I apologize for writing to you, but you see you are the only Guest Relations person who has shown me kindness and understanding. Today at EPCOT I went by myself to enjoy the cool weather and beauty of the park. I decided to walk (slowly and carefully) around the World Pavilions and took pictures as I went. Unfortunately, I overestimated my strength and abilities and was in a lot of pain by the time that I reached the fountain by Spaceship Earth. I hobbled to Guest Relations and spoke with an elderly gentleman (Richard?) at the entrance and briefly explained my situation, concluding with a request for a wheelchair escort to my car that was parked in handicapped because I didn't think that I could make it on my own. He replied that he couldn't help me, that they would never push a guest in a wheelchair and would I like to rest on a bench before continuing on. That was around 1:35-1:40ish p.m. today.

I was quite taken aback. I do not ask for help unless I need it and was flatly refused by a representative of Guest Relations when I was very obviously in distress. I left feeling frustrated, humiliated and in a lot of physical pain. Where was the compassion? Isn't Guest Relations supposed to be the face of the Disney Parks and Resorts? Does this experience mean that I am not important to the Walt Disney Parks and Resorts? I can't help but feel that there is an underlying prejudice against disabled persons, or perhaps it's just me? I was dismissed out of hand.

Fortunately (for me), I stopped by the wheelchair rental place and repeated my plight again to the two women by the wheelchairs and strollers. Seema immediately offered to wheel me to my car. Thank God for Seema. I could not have made it out to my car without her help. She was kind and considerate. She engaged me in conversation and was actively interested in my well-being. Perhaps she had a different training experience than Richard? I am entirely grateful to Seema for her help when Guest Services denied it to me. I really don't know what to make of what qualifies for "service" from Guest Relations.

If I may be candid, I was in tears by the time I walked away from Guest Relations from pain and humiliation. It took me at least seven minutes to get to the wheelchair rental. I hope never to be subjected to this kind of treatment.

I welcome your thoughts. Sincerely, etc.

I received a phone call today, December 3, 2014, in response to my email from Brianna - Guest Experience Services Representative. She supported the lack of help from the aforementioned cast member stating that is was and is a safety issue for a cast member to push a guest in a wheelchair. Any hope of having a human experience conversation was not to be had from Brianna. Unfortunately, the cast member, Seema, who was very kind and considerate by providing me with a wheelchair and an escort to my car will probably be brought to task for helping me. I thought that I was giving her a high compliment - silly me.

So, I'm curious: What part of pushing a guest in a wheelchair falls outside safety guidelines? Do they actually NEVER push a guest in a wheelchair - my guess is no. Is this really a liability issue in disguise? If so, then is any guest with a disability finding themselves in a position of distress and unable to walk from the park to their car out of luck? Indeed you are if you find yourself needing a human moment with any Guest Relations staff member. I asked if there was someone that I could speak with about this policy and Brianna replied that she could mention it in a meeting but it was unlikely to change anything. Another great failure on the part of Disney's Guest Experience Services Relations.

Thank you for the opportunity to share a disappointing disabled guest experience.

NOTE FROM MODERATOR: I removed the individual CM's desk phone number. Since we do not have her permission to post it in a public forum, I removed it
 
Apologies for the poorly worded question on the poll attached to my post: Disney Guest Services do NOT serve the Disabled in Need.
The question should read as follows:

Are you disabled, or do you accompany a disabled friend or family member to Disney Parks?

I hope that that clears up any ambiguity. Please let me know if further clarification is needed. Thanks.
 
What part of pushing a guest in a wheelchair falls outside safety guidelines?
. . . the CM's do not assist
. . . this is taught to every CM
. . . there is a potential lawsuit wherever a CM might help


Do they actually NEVER push a guest in a wheelchair - my guess is no.
. . . not supposed to

Is this really a liability issue in disguise?
. . . boy, is it ever!
. . . if you fall out, by accident or on purpose, WDW is liable
. . . if you get injured getting in/out, WDW is liable
. . . if you get injured transferring to the car, WDW is liable
. . . if ANYTHING happens while being pushed/assisted, WDW is liable


If so, then is any guest with a disability finding themselves in a position of distress and unable to walk from the park to their car out of luck?
. . . you may always ask for 911 to be called
. . . a RCID paramedic would be summoned
. . . if serious, they *might* be able to assist


Another great failure on the part of Disney's Guest Experience Services Relations.
. . . definitely NOT a failure by GS
. . . the GS person is simply following policy
. . . as well they should
. . . the failure would be to violate policy


Thank you for the opportunity to share a disappointing disabled guest experience.
. . . it is shame this happened to you
. . . however, guest mobility is not a WDW issue
. . . it is a guest's issue
. . . if mobility is a current/potential problem, one should rent a wheelchair or ECV
 
Pushing a guest in a wheelchair can be a liability issue. The cm could hurt themselves, they can accidentally tip the person out of the wheelchair (say if they don't see a curb), etc. So the first cm was correct in not pushing you to your car. If you couldn't move, they would call a supervisor who would assess the situation and provide options, including calling for medical attention if needed. Its the same situation if you were in a line and couldn't walk or push your wheelchair or in a ride vehicle and could not get out. You are responsible for moving your body physically around the park, whether that is walking, using a wheelchair or an ecv etc. I don't see where anyone embarrassed or humiliated or discriminated against you. You were offered a seat to rest.

Sorry your day did not turn out as you expected. You may wish to look into an ecv or other mobility device for future trips.
 

Just out of curiosity if u can only walk a certain bit without being in pain y didn't u rent an ecv? And for another thought to take on world showcase in that condition seems like a big task. I know I have an ankle issue but it's not as bad as yours it sounds like and I always rent an ecv when going to Epcot. Just bc of the distance of walking in world showcase is tremendous and I would rather enjoy myself than be in so much pain that I physically cannot walk out of the park without assistance.
 
I'm sorry you had such difficulty in the parks...it can be frustrating to feel like you are not getting assistance when you need it, however, while it may have seemed like Disney didn't care about you or that they were being rude, Disney is still a business with policies in place to protect themselves.

They know that there are guests who are physically incapable of taking on such a huge park, so they allow you to bring in whatever mobility aid you need or provide rental chairs if you choose to go that route (although I will say that the price of wheelchairs and ECV's at Disney is ridiculously high).

While it is admirable that you would want to try and walk as much as you could, knowing that you are very limited in how much you can do, you should have pre-planned for that and not assumed that Disney would be there to assist you once you got too tired.
 
Apologies for the poorly worded question on the poll attached to my post: Disney Guest Services do NOT serve the Disabled in Need.
The question should read as follows:

Are you disabled, or do you accompany a disabled friend or family member to Disney Parks?

I hope that that clears up any ambiguity. Please let me know if further clarification is needed. Thanks.

Thanks for the clarification and I am really sorry you had such a bad experience!

I am curious about what the poll is for...are you just trying to see how many people here have visited the parks with someone who is disabled or how many people who are disabled have visited themselves? If so, what purpose is the data being gathered for?

Maybe I am just missing the purpose of the poll? :confused3
 
I agree with all the responses.

You could ask them to call 911 and RCID may assist you, after medical evaluation.

That is a reasonable expectation.
 
I'm so very sorry you apparently over-estimated your ability to navigate such a large park without any assistance. It is and has been Disney policy for quite a while that CMs are not allowed to physically assist guests with such tasks as pushing a wheelchair. It is for safety of the CM as well as the guest, and I'm sure there is also a liability component to that situation. If the CM were to strain his/her back pushing a guest, it could be a workers compensation claim. If the guest were to accidentally fall out of the wheelchair, again it would be a legal claim against Disney. Maybe you personally would not take it to that level, but unfortunately some people would. As others have posted, Disney does offer mobility devices for rent to use in the parks, or you are welcome to bring a mobility aid into the parks with you -- whether personally owned or rented.

Again, so sorry you had a bad experience. I don't believe anyone intended to cause you pain or humiliation. Next time you might consider using an ECV, or if you prefer to walk maybe a rollator that would provide as seat for you to rest whenever needed.
 
I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but really, I'm surprised that you would expect a Disney employee to push you to your car.
 
Thank you to everyone who took the time to respond to my first post. I am glad that there are so many people who care enough to take time to read what I wrote and truly understand what I was saying.

I worked for Disney from 1989 through 1996 (bus driver, operations, and Main Street merchandise) and was trained to help guests however reasonable. I was never trained to not help a guest in a wheelchair. I understand that things change, and it is important to put my expectations into context. I have also had an annual pass for many years. I am recently disabled and was not aware of the policy.

I had a genuine expectation for human compassion and minor assistance if it came to it. I stand corrected. I didn't want a fuss; just a little help. I am not the type of person who looks for ways to sue businesses, etc. I suppose it was also disappointing to be seen as a potential liability blood-sucker.

I genuinely appreciate those of you who understood the true meaning behind my post and am better educated for my next visit next week. I understand that I am no longer independent and will require assistance - that is a hard pill to swallow.

The purpose of the survey was to get a ball-park estimate of the respondents that visited the parks either as a disabled guest or part of a party that included a disabled guest. I think that those who have extra hurdles to jump to enjoy what guests who are not disabled enjoy is something worth pondering.

Thanks again for all of the support.
 
I am a Cast Member with multiple disabilities. At my job (Cash Register at Everything Pop Merchandise) I am seated in my ECV and able to perform the duties of my job.

No Cast Member is permitted to touch a Guest unless it is an actual emergency, and then only to assist in preventing an accident.

The only times a CM is permitted to touch a Guest wheelchair is at an attraction load/unload and then only to hold the chair so it does not move and to move the empty chair between storage and load/unload.
 
I misunderstood the options - sorry! I voted, YES I have a disabled family member and have visited recently and NO (whatever the last option is)... cold meds are making me loopy :lmao: I thought it said 'no we haven't had problems' lol

Anyway, I have a disabled daughter and we were just in the parks a little over a month ago with no issues whatsoever.

It sounds like you had a rough day all around, but I think you had semi-unreasonable expectations of the workers. They're working - they can't really just leave their current duties. I've always heard that CMs can not personally assist in this fashion because of liability issues. A quick google would show the types of ridiculous things people sue for nowadays. They have to protect themselves.

ETA: OMG CHESHIRE FIGMENT!!! People have been wondering where you've been! Glad to see you back! (it's fully possible you've been back for awhile and I'm a ditz :P )
 
I'm disabled I would never expect a cast member to push me. I could never walk that far and I own my ECV because of it
 
I'm so sorry, I know you were just seeking help. They have their policies and the CMs must stick to them, they will call for medical assistance if needed.

On another note, a big hello to poster Cheshire Figment who I have not seen here in quite awhile. :wave2:
 
I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but really, I'm surprised that you would expect a Disney employee to push you to your car.

I agree, even liabilities aside, there is no way they could assist all the people that would then be seeking such aid. Everyone has to take their own personal responsibility.

I am a Cast Member with multiple disabilities. At my job (Cash Register at Everything Pop Merchandise) I am seated in my ECV and able to perform the duties of my job.

No Cast Member is permitted to touch a Guest unless it is an actual emergency, and then only to assist in preventing an accident.

The only times a CM is permitted to touch a Guest wheelchair is at an attraction load/unload and then only to hold the chair so it does not move and to move the empty chair between storage and load/unload.

Welcome back! We've missed you! :goodvibes
 
Thinking about what you asked them to do. If they started pushing people back to their car then people would expect CM's to push them all over the park if you really think about it expecting a CM to push you was a bad idea
 
I'm sorry your trip did not end up as you planned, but the other posters are correct that CMs are not allowed to assist in the way you wanted. It's not a matter of compassion or no compassion, it is a matter of liability.
If a guest is not able to move, the response would be to offer a place to sit and offer to call for medical assistance if needed.

We have been visiting WDW since 1987 with various people using ECVs and wheelchairs. My youngest daughter is a full time wheelchair user who can't walk.

It has always been my understanding that CMs can't push a guest in a wheelchair (with a few excrptions for attractions where the wheelchair user's companion has to enter a wheelchair accessible ride car first, so the CM has to push the wheelchair).

I'm going to close this thread at this time since a lot of posters have explained that, although it would have been nice for someone to push you, the CMs were not allowed to.

I hope you do visit again, using an ECV or other mobility device. It's never fun to be in pain and you will have a much better time if you don't have to worry about getting to a point of not being able to move.

And - hi to Cheshire Figment. nice to see you back:cheer2:
 
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