Disney Genie announcement

[shawthorne44]

I can believe it. Look a lot of the cast members are just trying to get a pay check. They prob don’t live breathe and sleep Disney like so many of us here. It is just another job just like millions of other people in the world. Has every single employee been educated on all of the new system. I would assume only those who have direct access to rides each day would even to an extent but if you work in a shop or food or shows or so many other areas they prob haven’t even had in services on it yet.

Well, it is understandable that Disney doesn't tell us peon customers the complete facts because they want to change things later without documentation that it had been different. But, employees could have been given a one page document with all the facts. The CM's supposedly had training on this. The problem is caused by management.

 

[Tom_E_D]

I have seen a lot of people use Epcot and the 11:00am as an example. I was just there last week and got into Epcot at 8:30am as Disney resort guest. Didn't Disney drop the 11:00am Epcot opening a while ago and change the opening time to 9:00am for non park guests?

This will just give people more availability for LL and LA$ passes.

Epcot "opened" at 9:00 from October 1-10 (early entry was at 8:30). It is now "opening" at 10:00, and is scheduled to return to an 11:00 "opening" on November 7. The 11:00 opening was only temporarily dropped.

 

[masupo]

That was Maxpass which allowed acces to 22 rides; Genie+ in Disneyland is confirmed to have access to less than that (around 15)

We don’t have confirmation on WDW Genie+

https://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2021/08/18/how-is-disney-genie-different-from-maxpass-in-disneyland/

We do have confirmation on the rides included with Genie+ at WDW

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/genie/lightning-lane/#drawer-card-drawerRecommender

 

[wisblue]

That’s not how it works.

IAS you can pick your return times (think FP+, but you have to pay per ride, 2 rides max per day, can book at 7am if resort guest or at park opening if non resort guest

Genie + you cannot pick your return time. You get next available (think old paper fast pass)

With the IAS you can choose your return time, but I think everyone assumes that you will only be able to choose available times, and that there will be a limit on how many passes are issued in any time slot, just like with FP+.

It remains to be seen if enough people will buy IAS to “sell out” an attraction, but I expect that they will at some of the attractions, especially during the busiest holiday times.

People facing a standby wait of 90 minutes or more for something like ROTR or FOP might decide that paying $15 or so to avoid that wait is a good deal.

 

[Disturbia]

Not true.....read my post from a few mins ago........you can have 2 Genie+ ressies at once (if thats what you mean by stacking)

only thing they havent clarified is you can have 3 or more, but you can def have 2

It’s on your MDE app (search for ‘Lightening Lane’) The information directly from Disney states that:

When to Select Attractions

Once you have Disney Genie+ service, you can select the next available arrival window for your first experience via the My Disney Experience mobile app beginning at 7:00 AM on the day of your visit.
Once you’ve redeemed your initial selection (or the arrival window has passed), you can make another selection using the app, up to park closing.

 

[Disturbia]

Heres what I wrote in case you missed it


one Genie+ ride can be booked at 7am for all guests (meaning resort and non resort guests) then a second can be booked either after you check in for your first one OR 120 mins after booking your first one even if you havent used it........the 120 mins does not start until park opening

(for eg, you book at 7am for TT in epcot and get the first Genie+ return at 11am when park opens......as soon as you check into TT at 11am, you can book your second Genie+ ride.........you cannot book your second one at 9am (120 mins after you booked your first at 7am) because the 120 countdown doesnt start until park opening (in this case, 11am).................OR.........you slept in and then woke up late and booked at 9am for TT in epcot and get a return time of 2:15 (because everyone that booked from 7am until 9am took the earlier times)....your 120 mins window starts at park opening so at 1pm you can book a second Genie+, thus having 2 at the same time, the TT at 2:15 and whatever you booked for a second at 1pm...


So you can see in this second scenario, it is a BIG disadvantage if you dont book at 7am because i wouldnt be able to book my second Genie+ until way later as opposed to when i booked at 7am, whether i used my first Genie+ reservation or not

Again, look at your MDE for information direct from Disney

 

[Disturbia]

We do have confirmation on the rides included with Genie+ at WDW

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/genie/lightning-lane/#drawer-card-drawerRecommender

We don’t have confirmation that they won’t limit the number of rides per day; they are indirectly limiting it by return times though

 

[canyoncam]

Not sure if this was mentioned-I’ve skipped the last few pages. But I talked to a cast member today who said she could answer “all my questions”. She couldn’t
However, what most disturbed me was the fact she said if you make a Genie+ LL return time but choose to cancel you can no longer use the LL option on that ride again that day. So say you picked LL for PP and are given a return of 1pm but need to cancel because Susie feels ill at 12:45 but by 2pm Susie feels better, you could no longer get another LL return for PP that day.
Hoping she is wrong.
Maybe you can “modify”

 

[MJJME]

It’s on your MDE app (search for ‘Lightening Lane’) The information directly from Disney states that:

When to Select Attractions

Once you have Disney Genie+ service, you can select the next available arrival window for your first experience via the My Disney Experience mobile app beginning at 7:00 AM on the day of your visit.
Once you’ve redeemed your initial selection (or the arrival window has passed), you can make another selection using the app, up to park closing.

Yeah that’s incorrect

 

[MJJME]

Again, look at your MDE for information direct from Disney

That wrong. Trust me, I know.

 

[MJJME]

Not sure if this was mentioned-I’ve skipped the last few pages. But I talked to a cast member today who said she could answer “all my questions”. She couldn’t
However, what most disturbed me was the fact she said if you make a Genie+ LL return time but choose to cancel you can no longer use the LL option on that ride again that day. So say you picked LL for PP and are given a return of 1pm but need to cancel because Susie feels ill at 12:45 but by 2pm Susie feels better, you could no longer get another LL return for PP that day.
Hoping she is wrong.
Maybe you can “modify”

You cannot modify or cancel******

******i misread this originally. I am not sure about. Genie + selections but I am sure you cannot modify or cancel IAS selections

Sorry for the confusion

 

[Disturbia]

That wrong. Trust me, I know.

Can you give me more details on how you know. We are all trying to piece this together and getting incomplete info from every direction

 

[MJJME]

We don’t have confirmation that they won’t limit the number of rides per day; they are indirectly limiting it by return times though

All rides are on genie+ except for the 2 most popular rides at each park. The only restriction is that you can only book each ride once with genie + (for eg. If you wanted to ride space mountain twice you would have to do standby either before or after you used your genie+ selection). The 2 rides at each park are:

AK - FOP and Everest
Epcot - RRat and frozen (will change to GOG when it opens)
MK - seven dwarfs and Space Mountain (will change to Tron when opened)
HS - ROTR and MMRR

 

[MJJME]

Can you give me more details on how you know. We are all trying to piece this together and getting incomplete info from every direction

I just do. Moderator, can you also confirm please? Moderator should also know.

 

[Disturbia]

All rides are on genie+ except for the 2 most popular rides at each park. The only restriction is that you can only book each ride once with genie + (for eg. If you wanted to ride space mountain twice you would have to do standby either before or after you used your genie+ selection). The 2 rides at each park are:

AK - FOP and Everest
Epcot - RRat and frozen (will change to GOG when it opens)
MK - seven dwarfs and Space Mountain (will change to from when opened)
HS - ROTR and MMRR

The limit on rides was a question asked by Dani on Dis unplugged and the answer she was give is there is a limit of 8 Genie+ rides. There could have been some misunderstanding though, but they tried the app

 

[Disturbia]

Maybe the info on the MDE app is wrong also. That’s possible as well

 

[MJJME]

The limit on rides was a question asked by Dani on Dis unplugged and the answer she was give is there is a limit of 8 Genie+ rides. There could have been some misunderstanding though, but they tried the app

No that’s for Genie (not Genie+) and that’s for doing a touring plan (like Len testas site currently does)

 

[Disturbia]

I would buy it either way as we don’t expect to do more than 10 rides Genie+ and LLIA

 

[MJJME]

Here’s the official Genie+ list of attractions:
Magic Kingdom

• Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
• Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
• Dumbo the Flying Elephant
• Haunted Mansion
• “it’s a small world”
• Jungle Cruise
• Mad Tea Party
• Magic Carpets of Aladdin
• Mickey’s PhilharMagic
• Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor
• Peter Pan’s Flight
• Pirates of the Caribbean
• Splash Mountain
• Goofy’s Barnstormer
• The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
• Tomorrowland Speedway
• Under the Sea ~ Journey of the Little Mermaid

Epcot

• Disney & Pixar Short Film Festival
• Journey into Imagination with Figment
• Mission Space
• Soarin’ Around the World
• Spaceship Earth
• Test Track
• The Seas with Nemo & Friends
• Turtle Talk with Crush

Hollywood Studios

• Alien Swirling Saucers
• Beauty and the Beast: Live on Stage
• Disney Jr. Play & Dance
• Frozen Sing-Along Celebration
• Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular
• Millennium Falcon: Smugglers Run
• MuppetVision 3D
• Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith
• Slinky Dog Dash
• Star Tours – The Adventures Continue
• The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror
• Toy Story Mania

Animal Kingdom

• A Celebration of Festival of the Lion King
• Dinosaur
• It’s Tough to Be a Bug
• Kali River Rapids
• Kilimanjaro Safaris
• Na’vi River Journey
• The Animation Experience at Conservation Station
• Feathered Friends in Flight

 

[scrappinginontario]

I just do. Moderator, can you also confirm please? Moderator should also know.

No, we cannot because we know no more than anyone else.

Some of what you're stating as 'fact' the moderators cannot confirm as we do not have enough information yet.