Disney Genie announcement

[slo]

Under normal circumstances I would strongly consider buying the Genie+ for MK and HS but not for Epcot or AK. Still undecided on the IAS rides but I'll have an answer in a couple weeks.

Where do you purchase that?
I looked on the App Store and it doesn’t appear

 

[JenSop]

I've been able to stay mostly up to date on this thread, but honeslty haven't read the last five pages or so.

I'm just super frustrated that Disney hasn't released ALL the information. If you're going to launch this big huge thing, you should have all the details ready for guests. One of my jobs is a tour director on European river cruises. We're not allowed to be vague when it comes to ANYTHING. We have to be specific on every detail.

It feels like Disney doesn't even have the details thought through. They're just going to "throw it out there" and see what happens. And that frustrates me to no end!

 

[JenSop]

This is going to be quite the show. I am here now and spoke with several cast members who all have no idea what is going on.

I asked if there was an update needed for the App or if it would show up. They think Genie will get pushed to the app without an update. Then I started asking about timing, virtual queue for Remy vs ILL for Remy and how that works with everything starting at 7. Also asked about how we load our preferences for standard Genie. When we can pay for Genie+ and then book our first ride. How we do all of that at 7 am and have to buy it first. They don’t even know when we can buy it. After a few minutes all 3 cast members I spoke with gave up and said they wished they had more answers but my guess would be as good as theirs.

I have to say I'm not even the slightest bit surprised....

 

[Disturbia]

I just read a description on ‘Lightening Lane’ in the app and that says you can book another attraction if you purchase Genie+ after the arrival time has passed or you have redeemed the pass, whichever comes first. So no stacking!

 

[MJJME]

I just read a description on ‘Lightening Lane’ in the app and that says you can book another attraction if you purchase Genie+ after the arrival time has passed or you have redeemed the pass, whichever comes first. So no stacking!

Not true.....read my post from a few mins ago........you can have 2 Genie+ ressies at once (if thats what you mean by stacking)

only thing they havent clarified is you can have 3 or more, but you can def have 2

 

[MJJME]

I just read a description on ‘Lightening Lane’ in the app and that says you can book another attraction if you purchase Genie+ after the arrival time has passed or you have redeemed the pass, whichever comes first. So no stacking!

Heres what I wrote in case you missed it


one Genie+ ride can be booked at 7am for all guests (meaning resort and non resort guests) then a second can be booked either after you check in for your first one OR 120 mins after booking your first one even if you havent used it........the 120 mins does not start until park opening

(for eg, you book at 7am for TT in epcot and get the first Genie+ return at 11am when park opens......as soon as you check into TT at 11am, you can book your second Genie+ ride.........you cannot book your second one at 9am (120 mins after you booked your first at 7am) because the 120 countdown doesnt start until park opening (in this case, 11am).................OR.........you slept in and then woke up late and booked at 9am for TT in epcot and get a return time of 2:15 (because everyone that booked from 7am until 9am took the earlier times)....your 120 mins window starts at park opening so at 1pm you can book a second Genie+, thus having 2 at the same time, the TT at 2:15 and whatever you booked for a second at 1pm...


So you can see in this second scenario, it is a BIG disadvantage if you dont book at 7am because i wouldnt be able to book my second Genie+ until way later as opposed to when i booked at 7am, whether i used my first Genie+ reservation or not

 

[MrBellatrixLestrange]

Where do you purchase that?
I looked on the App Store and it doesn’t appear

I think it's through the MDE?

 

[lvdis]

It doesn't start until tomorrow, October 19, 2021.

You can check out the official information here - https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/genie/lightning-lane/

 

[slo]

Great!
Thank you everyone!!

 

[goofynut41]

Heres what I wrote in case you missed it


one Genie+ ride can be booked at 7am for all guests (meaning resort and non resort guests) then a second can be booked either after you check in for your first one OR 120 mins after booking your first one even if you havent used it........the 120 mins does not start until park opening

(for eg, you book at 7am for TT in epcot and get the first Genie+ return at 11am when park opens......as soon as you check into TT at 11am, you can book your second Genie+ ride.........you cannot book your second one at 9am (120 mins after you booked your first at 7am) because the 120 countdown doesnt start until park opening (in this case, 11am).................OR.........you slept in and then woke up late and booked at 9am for TT in epcot and get a return time of 2:15 (because everyone that booked from 7am until 9am took the earlier times)....your 120 mins window starts at park opening so at 1pm you can book a second Genie+, thus having 2 at the same time, the TT at 2:15 and whatever you booked for a second at 1pm...


So you can see in this second scenario, it is a BIG disadvantage if you dont book at 7am because i wouldnt be able to book my second Genie+ until way later as opposed to when i booked at 7am, whether i used my first Genie+ reservation or not

OH MY GOD!!!! THIS IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CONFUSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I"M LOST AS A GOOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[motherof5]

I had a feeling that free fast passes were gone. Sad to say they are revamping things that they stopped using the excuse covid.

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

OH MY GOD!!!! THIS IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CONFUSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I"M LOST AS A GOOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WNYDisneyDad]

In case you hadn’t seen, Disney stated that you will always be able to purchase Genie+, since it’ll not sell out. As stated, it launches tomorrow, so you can see how the first few days go and if it’s worth it prior to purchasing. If you’d like.

 

[fly girl]

Honestly, because there are 3 parks without enough attractions, I see no way they make it unlimited like MaxPass. People would clog up the Lightning Lane for those few attractions way too quickly. Disneyland has enough attractions to handle unlimited. So does MK but I'm sure they need to make it consistent.

I don't know about that. FP+ had all the rides and there was no clogging of the line because they limited the amount of FP's given in an allowed time. MaxPass was the same, you had to get a time slot.

It isn't like Express Pass Unlimited at Universal. You can't just walk right into the line. If it was, then yeah, I could see a backlog but MaxPass wasn't like that at all.

I worry that the Genie+ plus line will be super long, as most familys spending big money on a vacation wont skimp out on a $100 day to skip all the lines.

Again, I don't think it will. My take (and I could be wrong) I think it will be just like old FP+ but now you have to pay. You will have to pick a time slot, not everyone in the park can get on at the same time. It will run very similar FP time slots as MaxPass and FP+ did, with the big exception of FP+ that you cannot book 3 in advance.

 

[MJJME]

I don't know about that. FP+ had all the rides and there was no clogging of the line because they limited the amount of FP's given in an allowed time. MaxPass was the same, you had to get a time slot.

It isn't like Express Pass Unlimited at Universal. You can't just walk right into the line. If it was, then yeah, I could see a backlog but MaxPass wasn't like that at all.




Again, I don't think it will. My take (and I could be wrong) I think it will be just like old FP+ but now you have to pay. You will have to pick a time slot, not everyone in the park can get on at the same time. It will run very similar FP time slots as MaxPass and FP+ did, with the big exception of FP+ that you cannot book 3 in advance.

That’s not how it works.

IAS you can pick your return times (think FP+, but you have to pay per ride, 2 rides max per day, can book at 7am if resort guest or at park opening if non resort guest

Genie + you cannot pick your return time. You get next available (think old paper fast pass)

 

[mom2rtk]

I don't know about that. FP+ had all the rides and there was no clogging of the line because they limited the amount of FP's given in an allowed time. MaxPass was the same, you had to get a time slot.

MP worked fine because there are plenty of attractions in the 2 parks of DLR.

I might beg to differ on FP+ clogging the lines, but to the extent that it didn't, the tiering in those 3 parks would be the reason why. Without tiering, or some other limiting principle, Genie+ could quickly overwhelm those limited number of rides in the 3 non castle parks at WDW.

 

[rmclain73]

Heres what I wrote in case you missed it


one Genie+ ride can be booked at 7am for all guests (meaning resort and non resort guests) then a second can be booked either after you check in for your first one OR 120 mins after booking your first one even if you havent used it........the 120 mins does not start until park opening

(for eg, you book at 7am for TT in epcot and get the first Genie+ return at 11am when park opens......as soon as you check into TT at 11am, you can book your second Genie+ ride.........you cannot book your second one at 9am (120 mins after you booked your first at 7am) because the 120 countdown doesnt start until park opening (in this case, 11am).................OR.........you slept in and then woke up late and booked at 9am for TT in epcot and get a return time of 2:15 (because everyone that booked from 7am until 9am took the earlier times)....your 120 mins window starts at park opening so at 1pm you can book a second Genie+, thus having 2 at the same time, the TT at 2:15 and whatever you booked for a second at 1pm...


So you can see in this second scenario, it is a BIG disadvantage if you dont book at 7am because i wouldnt be able to book my second Genie+ until way later as opposed to when i booked at 7am, whether i used my first Genie+ reservation or not

I have seen a lot of people use Epcot and the 11:00am as an example. I was just there last week and got into Epcot at 8:30am as Disney resort guest. Didn't Disney drop the 11:00am Epcot opening a while ago and change the opening time to 9:00am for non park guests?

This will just give people more availability for LL and LA$ passes.

 

[MJJME]

MP worked fine because there are plenty of attractions in the 2 parks of DLR.

I might beg to differ on FP+ clogging the lines, but to the extent that it didn't, the tiering in those 3 parks would be the reason why. Without tiering, or some other limiting principle, Genie+ could quickly overwhelm those limited number of rides in the 3 non castle parks at WDW.

I 100% agree with that. WDW is 4 parks and a lot less attractions at each park and that’s a big difference. I would add MaxPass worked because it was a paid FP but also had a free FP option along with standby.

there’s no more free FP in DL with Genie+ And it’s either pay or wait in line.

 

[MJJME]

I have seen a lot of people use Epcot and the 11:00am as an example. I was just there last week and got into Epcot at 8:30am as Disney resort guest. Didn't Disney drop the 11:00am Epcot opening a while ago and change the opening time to 9:00am for non park guests?

This will just give people more time to get more LL passes.

It’s arbitrariy. Just using it as an example. Not necessarily the exact time opening.

 

[jimim]

This is going to be quite the show. I am here now and spoke with several cast members who all have no idea what is going on.

I asked if there was an update needed for the App or if it would show up. They think Genie will get pushed to the app without an update. Then I started asking about timing, virtual queue for Remy vs ILL for Remy and how that works with everything starting at 7. Also asked about how we load our preferences for standard Genie. When we can pay for Genie+ and then book our first ride. How we do all of that at 7 am and have to buy it first. They don’t even know when we can buy it. After a few minutes all 3 cast members I spoke with gave up and said they wished they had more answers but my guess would be as good as theirs.

I can believe it. Look a lot of the cast members are just trying to get a pay check. They prob don’t live breathe and sleep Disney like so many of us here. It is just another job just like millions of other people in the world. Has every single employee been educated on all of the new system. I would assume only those who have direct access to rides each day would even to an extent but if you work in a shop or food or shows or so many other areas they prob haven’t even had in services on it yet.