Disney Genie announcement

[Disturbia]

Same here, some days our teen would go with one parent to rope drop and the rest of the party would join for Evening fastpasses only. With rider switch, we were stuck at each ride for 2 hours as times were artificially inflated (15-30 mins).

We even had one CM add the standby time to rider switch on FOP (while using Fast Pass) once (arguing was futile, so we took a break), but most only added 30-40 mins to the start of rider switch.

SDMT took a fast pass away while rider switching with a standby. We had evening FP+ and in the am we did standby and they erased evening FP+, hence I wouldn’t be surprised if they do that with genie+ (people would be really mad if they paid for it).

 

[MainMom]

Once reports are released we may see that getting up at 7 am to book LL may not even be necessary depending on how you do the parks.

I have never seen the benefit in an 8 am or 9 am FP or LL. We would never start our FP+ before 12 (but usually not before 3-4) anyway. With legacy FP you pulled them early in the morning because you could use them at any time. But with this system you must use them in the allotted time. How much time is an 8 am or 9 am LL going to save you? I know everyone has different strategies for what works for their families.

This is what I need to figure out. We have always utilized the first hour or 2 to our advantage with shorter waits and saved FP for late morning.

 

[Disturbia]

This is one thread where it was said rider switch wouldn’t be issued if you have a fast pass later in the day

https://www.disboards.com/threads/recent-reports-on-rider-switch.3781597/#post-61321107

 

[RamieGee]

Side note that you do NOT have to add it to your package. If you add it to your package it’s based on ticket length and you can add up to 1 day prior arrival.
But can buy individual days once at your resort the morning of. It will NEVER sell out, so you always have the option to buy that morning (after 1201am actually).
Either way it’s more money; just don’t feel like you need to commit right away. Lol

Thank you! Yes, that is the plan and what we told the TA. I guess it was just her email pointing out that this thing would be live during our visit that was triggering (I knew already, but it made it “real”). I had to have too much in depth strategic discussion with the other family we are traveling with on the pros/cons and mostly “WHAT IFs”. It’s frustrating & exhausting (I had the previous system mastered). We’re just blind guinea pigs and it’s not fair since we paid Disney the full balance of our trip and then they throw a system at us whose rules and impact is unknown. Sigh.

 

[Jrb1979]

This is what I need to figure out. We have always utilized the first hour or 2 to our advantage with shorter waits and saved FP for late morning.

Since you are paying for Genie+ I wouldn't be saving any for later. I would use as much as possible, even if the Standby is 15 minutes

 

[Disturbia]

Molly also indicated that we should book LL earlier (and genie+) so if any issues arise (weather, ride breakdown etc) you can be issued something like a bonus pass

 

[snikki]

I got an email from my TA regarding G+. Very informative. Two points that stick out to me since these two questions were asked on this thread:

Can Individual Attraction Selections be made at more than one park?

Yes, if you have park hopper tickets you can make your first selection at one park and your second selection at another park. These two selections can be made at the same time.


Can I have a selection with Disney Genie+, Individual Attraction Selections and a virtual queue at the same time?

Yes, you can since these are separate components.

 

[Disturbia]

I got an email from my TA regarding G+. Very informative. Two points that stick out to me since these two questions were asked on this thread:

Can Individual Attraction Selections be made at more than one park?

Yes, if you have park hopper tickets you can make your first selection at one park and your second selection at another park. These two selections can be made at the same time.


Can I have a selection with Disney Genie+, Individual Attraction Selections and a virtual queue at the same time?

Yes, you can since these are separate components.

Molly’s video did indicate you can virtual queue and pay LLIA for Remy.

Genie+ won’t allow a selection close to a LLIA or dining and virtual queue you have no control over but you can’t Genie+ Remy, so those won’t conflict. I’m not sure anything can be booked at the same time.

 

[yellowfish78]

I got an email from my TA regarding G+. Very informative. Two points that stick out to me since these two questions were asked on this thread:

Can Individual Attraction Selections be made at more than one park?

Yes, if you have park hopper tickets you can make your first selection at one park and your second selection at another park. These two selections can be made at the same time.


Can I have a selection with Disney Genie+, Individual Attraction Selections and a virtual queue at the same time?

Yes, you can since these are separate components.

I agree with your second question since all 3 of those are "separate products" with Disney - Genie+, paid LL ride, and VQ.

As for your first question, I didn't get that from Disney's TA webinar this week... I heard it as "you can plan for two parks" not "make a LL selection for each park". I still think that your LL selection will be one at a time.

 

[Disturbia]

I agree with your second question since all 3 of those are "separate products" with Disney - Genie+, paid LL ride, and VQ.

As for your first question, I didn't get that from Disney's TA webinar this week... I heard it as "you can plan for two parks" not "make a LL selection for each park". I still think that your LL selection will be one at a time.

I don’t see why this would be a problem. if you have park hoppers, you can book a LLIA 12 pm SDMT and a 6 pm Remy at 7 am (Subject to availability; Max of 2 per day).

 

[gharter]

This is what I need to figure out. We have always utilized the first hour or 2 to our advantage with shorter waits and saved FP for late morning.

We did similar. First FP was usually about 2 hours after the park opened when it started to get crowded.

 

[yellowfish78]

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I don’t see why this would be a problem. if you have park hoppers, you can book a 12 pm SDMT and a 6 pm Remy at 7 am (Subject to availability).

Correct, because this is your two paid LL. If you wanted two rides that are included in G+ across two parks, then no.

ETA: sorry. I'm still confused with names of things. I see it now says individual ride selections.

 

[snikki]

I think Disney would prefer you buy the two ILL before been hitting the park. What if you arrive before purchasing and the wait is 15 minutes and you decide not to buy it? Makes more sense for them to let you buy it earlier in the day, across two parks, and get your money upfront since there’s no refunds.

 

[Disturbia]

k

Correct, because this is your two paid LL. If you wanted two rides that are included in G+ across two parks, then no.

ETA: sorry. I'm still confused with names of things. I see it now says individual ride selections.

I’ll modify my post to reduce confusion

 

[thptrek]

We start our vacation on the 19th at AK. Really looking forward to this new system (if it doesn't crash). Stacking Genie+ LL rides one after another all day and adding in paying for LL$ rides should really reduce the amount of wait we do. We will grab our first Genie+ at 7am, another at 9am, and just keep going all day. I really don't see an issue here.

 

[Disturbia]

I think Disney would prefer you buy the two ILL before been hitting the park. What if you arrive before purchasing and the wait is 15 minutes and you decide not to buy it? Makes more sense for them to let you buy it earlier in the day, across two parks, and get your money upfront since there’s no refunds.

I don’t see SDMT ever being that low in the afternoon; we could get lucky with Remy (fast loading) at park close. I’d have to pay for 4 people each time (approx $40 each ride) to reduce the uncertainy.

 

[snikki]

I don’t see them allowing stacking before or at park open. If you make a 9-10 am LL at 7 am I don’t think you’ll be allowed to make another LL until you use that first LL. I don’t think the 120 minute rule will apply here.

 

[shawthorne44]

I have never seen the benefit in an 8 am or 9 am FP or LL. We would never start our FP+ before 12 (but usually not before 4 pm) anyway.

This is why I don't understand the anger at early-morning people that someone expressed earlier. The idea seemed to be that the early morning people will gobble up all the slots "just to get one more ride" and then ruin it for everyone. When really the early morning people, will be using their G+ slots when the waits are lower leaving the later times for other people.

 

[Disturbia]

I don’t see them allowing stacking before or at park open. If you make a 9-10 am LL at 7 am I don’t think you’ll be allowed to make another LL until you use that first LL. I don’t think the 120 minute rule will apply here.

I think Epcot is where we will see stacking due to late opening, but there are very few rides that truly need genie+ (Test track & Soarin) and you have VQ for Remy.

 

[Disturbia]

I would actually like the booking to be at 8 am for Epcot instead of stacking.

Also, if you’re park hopping to Epcot, you can’t get a virtual queue for Remy unless Epcot was your first park.