Disney Genie announcement

[DL1WDW2]

Does anybody have the LL explanation that does not detail over 3000 comments ? I just want to zoom in and out and not take a test afterwards.
I don’t plan to bring a cellphone anyway…

 

[DL1WDW2]

Well, yes. If DIsney were planning this (which I agree is exceedingly unlikely), you could just turn off location services and not use magic bands. But, Disney IS collecting massive amounts of data via magic bands, location services and the new Genie service. They're said that they used that data to train Genie, and to decide what makes LL viable without limiting sales.


(completely off topic, I wonder if anyone has asked for all their data from Disney. That might be fascinating to poke through. )

I think they are training us … currently we will need to learn to access the dining reservations during the downtime Cause Genie needs access to us during the $$$ big money time. So look for dining in the early morns and later at night unless Genie is still counting the $$$ it made for the day.
That might take a while… cause it sounds like they need a lot of money to justify giving us Genie for Free

 

[elgerber]

I’m watching Dis unplugged and it was said that if you have a pass later and you just rode the same ride, genie knows what you’re doing and will erase that pass!!!!

so I can’t come in during resort guest early entry and ride the ride that I have my first genie+ for

Perhaps you could edit this post, so people don't come her all night and freak out before reading the explanation a couple of pages later?

 

[cjlong88]

Does anybody have the LL explanation that does not detail over 3000 comments ? I just want to zoom in and out and not take a test afterwards.
I don’t plan to bring a cellphone anyway…

Genie+ (G+)
1) Gives you access to the Lightning Lane for 40-ish attractions throughout WDW
2) Costs $15 per person per day to use
3) You can book one LL at a time
4) You can book your next LL after using your current one OR after two hours have passed, whichever occurs first
5) You will only be able to book a LL for each ride only one time. So if you want to re-ride a specific attraction and you have already used LL for that attraction, then you need to wait in the standby line.


Individual Lightning Lane Selections (ILLS)
1) There are eight attractions not included with G+ (FoP, Everest, 7DMT, Space, RotR, MMRR, FEA, Remy)
2) To use the LL for these rides, you must purchase access seperately
3) The price to skip the line will vary based on many factors (i.e. surge pricing)
4) You may purchase up to two of these each day
5) You do not need to have G+ to use ILLS


Options
1) Use G+ only
2) Use ILLS only
3) Use both G+ and ILLS
4) Use neither and wait in the standby line

 

[Disturbia]

Perhaps you could edit this post, so people don't come her all night and freak out before reading the explanation a couple of pages later?

will do

 

[lanejudy]

1) There are six attractions not included with G+ (FoP, Everest, 7DMT, Space, RotR, MMRR, FEA, Remy)

Eight

 

[cjlong88]

Eight

Fixed!

 

[deltadisney]

Sorry if asked - but does anyone know if Genie+ will allow you to select a later time for your first ride? For example, if I wanted to sleep in and park hop to HS after first going to MK, could I pick SDD as my first ride and force a post 2:00 ride time or do I have to take the time it tells me to take?

 

[Disturbia]

Also, genie+ limit is 8 attractions (I think that’s per day even if you hop?)

 

[Ariel620]

Also, genie+ limit is 8 attractions (I think that’s per day even if you hop?)

Where do you get that info? If you book one as soon as you enter the que, I can see using way more than 8 some days (at MK at least).

 

[snikki]

Also, genie+ limit is 8 attractions (I think that’s per day even if you hop?)

Oh they are really going to piss people off.

 

[Disturbia]

I already caused a panic earlier, so I’ll leave it to someone else to verify

 

[Ariel620]

I already caused a panic earlier, so I’ll leave it to someone else to verify

Verify from where? Where did you see it?

 

[cfw213]

The 8 attraction thing is for genie, not Genie+

I love dis unplugged but they seemed to use “genie” and “genie+“ interchangeably and it’s very confusing. The AllEars video is very straightforward and easy to understand

 

[Disturbia]

I thought it was for Genie+. The info was again from Dis unplugged video. They said the limit was 8 (at 35 mins) for Genie+ Correct me if I’m wrong (hopefully I’m wrong)

 

[Disturbia]

They could have easily confused genie itinerary and genie+ also (like I did earlier)

I know 8 is the number of attractions you select for genie itinerary (free). They seem to suggest it’s the max number of rides per day using genie+

also you can’t reoptimize genie+ (But can reoptimize genie) If you miss your attraction (They are hoping for wiggle room, but we’re told no)

Edit: Molly’s (allears) video confirms that there will be an anytime pass (restricted) if a ride goes down due to weather

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

... it's not skirting the rules if Disney lets it happens- it's maximizing the system they give you.

It's a long-standing tradition here on the DIS to characterize maximizing any system they give us as "selfishly abusing the system by using loopholes at the expense of others." Goes all the back to legacy FP (and probably even before that).

 

[katyringo]

It's a long-standing tradition here on the DIS to characterize maximizing any system they give us as "selfishly abusing the system by using loopholes at the expense of others." Goes all the back to legacy FP (and probably even before that).

well.. thats dumb.

 

[yellowfish78]

After trying my best not to worry about this Genie+ thing since the rumors started, I am now all riled up again. Just got an email from my TA asking if we want to add Genie+ to our package for our trip starting on 10/30. That brought all the feelings.

There's a real bait-and-switch aspect for those of us traveling over the next month or so. 2 1/2 weeks out I'm committed to this vacation - my kids are over the moon excited, I've made arrangements with work/school, I've paid Disney an exorbitant amount for my package, airfare is paid for, park reservations made, transportation is booked. And now a system they are suddenly putting in place could potentially significantly change the experience I was expecting when I booked this trip (maybe for the worse if it changes stand-by times beyond what they were historically). We are in the parks 7 days, and for my family of 5, it could potentially cost an additional $1,000 to have the experience I was expecting when I committed to this trip (depending on what is needed with Genie+ and ILL$ not to wait in hours and hours of lines). 2 1/2 WEEKS OUT and there's a surprise potential $500-$1,000 added to my trip. For an experience with so many unknowns.

I was planning this trip for several years, cancelled and re-booked a year ago, and really needed this vacation after a pretty crappy 2 years. And now I feel the pressure that if I don't cough up $500-$1000 more, it might end up being a frustrating trip of long lines and missed rides we were all looking forward. And we don't go frequently at all. These are "big" trips for us.

I'm so disappointed in Disney. To put it lightly, because this is a public forum and I'm a lady. Sigh. That's all. That's the rant.

Side note that you do NOT have to add it to your package. If you add it to your package it’s based on ticket length and you can add up to 1 day prior arrival.
But can buy individual days once at your resort the morning of. It will NEVER sell out, so you always have the option to buy that morning (after 1201am actually).
Either way it’s more money; just don’t feel like you need to commit right away. Lol

 

[yellowfish78]

This was also helpful determining the difference between Genie and Genie+.