Disney Genie announcement

[Disturbia]

I really wanted to like this; now I’m not sure I want to buy this; but for parks where waits never go down and I’m likely to ride something only once, then maybe

 

[Disturbia]

You’re misunderstanding something I think or they are not explaining it correctly. How could Genie know what you rode using a standby line?

yeah, this.

They said it’s like Big Brother; watch the Dis unplugged video. It knows you rode it and will erase it from your genie suggested itinerary (free) lineup (not genie+)

 

[DisneyKidds]

Not the LLIA paid rides but the genie+ Will get erased if you rode it standby

they used slinky dog as an example; if you have a 5 pm genie+ pass but rode it when it had a lower wait at 3; it will erase the genie+ pass

What if you ride it at 3 but it had a longer wait….do you get to keep your Genie+ reservation then?

Me thinks our Genie+ threads have jumped the shark!

 

[snikki]

Is disney IT smart enough to erase a LL if you rode it standby earlier ?

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

If it erases your LL if you rode standby it really makes G+ a very rigid system that we now have to pay for. Wow.

If that’s the case I’ll stick with my plan on buying ILL for the evening park and doing RD at a separate park. Like I did with FP+.

Turn off location services on your phone and dont use a magicband…. This cant be true.

 

[Disturbia]

Is disney IT smart enough to erase a LL if you rode it standby earlier ?

I’ve had cast member erase fast passes if I did rider switch (with anytime fp), so I know for a fact they see and erase things

 

[Figment1990]

The erasing the pass if you already rode it is at 18 minutes in the video, so if you rode Big Thunder (standby), genie+ will erase a later pass

Ok admittedly I didn’t watch the video. Is that info directly from Disney??? If they do that it might push me over the edge. How can they think this is good PR? I can see them limiting one G+ ride per person but to take that G+ ride away if u ride standby??? Why do they want to crush the souls of kids? Re-ride desire isn’t just limited to headliners. Sometimes kids want to ride buzz lightyear multiple times and if I want to use my G+ on it say, at 10:30 am when it’s busier and also rope drop it I should be able to! (Not saying this is our current touring but when my son was little it certainly was).

 

[Disturbia]

Ok admittedly I didn’t watch the video. Is that info directly from Disney??? If they do that it might push me over the edge. How can they think this is good PR? I can see them limiting one G+ ride per person but to take that G+ ride away if u ride standby??? Why do they want to crush the souls of kids? Re-ride desire isn’t just limited to headliners. Sometimes kids want to ride buzz lightyear multiple times and if I want to use my G+ on it say, at 10:30 am when it’s busier and also rope drop it I should be able to! (Not saying this is our current touring but when my son was little it certainly was).

It’s a media preview where they tried it and asked questions. They didn’t like the Big Brother aspect.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

Ok admittedly I didn’t watch the video. Is that info directly from Disney??? If they do that it might push me over the edge. How can they think this is good PR? I can see them limiting one G+ ride per person but to take that G+ ride away if u ride standby??? Why do they want to crush the souls of kids? Re-ride desire isn’t just limited to headliners. Sometimes kids want to ride buzz lightyear multiple times and if I want to use my G+ on it say, at 10:30 am when it’s busier and also rope drop it I should be able to! (Not saying this is our current touring but when my son was little it certainly was).

I say again, how would they know? Do we think Disney is installing facial recognition software at every ride entrance? One of the presenters misspoke or something.

 

[Disturbia]

Maybe we can buy it later in the day so do your early morning resort guest rides and then pay/book genie+

 

[Grasshopper2016]

If what Disturbia is saying is true (and I know that he/she is just passing on what's in the video), then that is an abomination. It's punishing you for being willing to both stand in lines and pay extra money. At first, I thought, "well then why purchase Genie+?" But after thinking about it for a minute, I'm thinking "well then why go to Disney World at all?" This would literally be my breaking point.

 

[Disturbia]

they are saying if you miss it (say big Thunder mountain); you might not be able to ride it again but take screenshots; there may be no leeway or minimum grace;

If ride goes down, it will reoptimize; it’s just like maxpass at Disneyland? They are uncertain of a ride goes down for weather, they are not sure you will get an anytime pass or anything

 

[Disturbia]

Turn off location services on your phone and dont use a magicband…. This cant be true.

This is a really good idea, but they have GPS in it, so someone has to stand outside the ride (we have an infant, so she will have a lot of extra toys I guess). We can have our decoy old magic bands on just in case.

 

[persnickity2020]

This is so frustrating, it took time to come to terms with having to pay for this at all (we're going during a busy week, so our choices are probably to pay for a couple of days G+ or have a miserable $10K vacation). Then they leaked that we can't book re-rides, even in parks with very few choices, and I had to come to terms with that and plan around it. And now this nonsense, where they will take away a ride you are paying extra for because you stood in line for it once already??

We have sunk costs in this trip, but they are not ALL sunk costs. If this one is accurate, they are about to make considerably less money on our trip. Instead of throwing money at them to make our trip "worth it", I will cut every corner I can to make it a better value.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

This is a really good idea, but they have GPS in it, so someone has to stand outside the ride (we have an infant, so she will have a lot of extra toys I guess)

You can turn off the gps in your phone. You can put it in airplane mode **or** you can turn it off entirely. This rumor simply cannot be true. You can set your phone’s privacy settings so it doesn’t communicate your location to disney, and you can do that dynamically, or, as I said, you can just turn it off.

 

[dawnball]

I say again, how would they know? Do we think Disney is installing facial recognition software at every ride entrance? One of the presenters misspoke or something.

Disney knows where every magicband is in the parks. Also, if you have location services and bluetooth enabled in the app, it uses that to "optimize your day."


I usually have 5-6 different people's magicbands, so this might be interesting on our next visit...

 

[Violetspider]

You’re misunderstanding something I think or they are not explaining it correctly. How could Genie know what you rode using a standby line?

They are talking about the free Genie itinerary portion, not Genie+. The Genie app can make you an itinerary to follow, so if you get on the ride earlier than what the itinerary suggested, then that ride will be erased from the itinerary. It will be like checking off that box. If you got a LL pass through G+ but ride the same ride via stand by prior to you reservation time, your G+ reservation will absolutely not be erased.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

This is so frustrating, it took time to come to terms with having to pay for this at all (we're going during a busy week, so our choices are probably to pay for a couple of days G+ or have a miserable $10K vacation). Then they leaked that we can't book re-rides, even in parks with very few choices, and I had to come to terms with that and plan around it. And now this nonsense, where they will take away a ride you are paying extra for because you stood in line for it once already??

We have sunk costs in this trip, but they are not ALL sunk costs. If this one is accurate, they are about to make considerably less money on our trip. Instead of throwing money at them to make our trip "worth it", I will cut every corner I can to make it a better value.

Everyone needs to calm down on this one.

Disney knows where every magicband is in the parks. Also, if you have location services and bluetooth enabled in the app, it uses that to "optimize your day."


I usually have 5-6 different people's magicbands, so this might be interesting on our next visit...

It would be trivially easy to defeat this system by not using magicbands and disabling location services on your phone while on line though. Again, this is just not accurate information, it’s not possible.

 

[lanejudy]

They are talking about the free Genie itinerary portion, not Genie+. The Genie app can make you an itinerary to follow, so if you get on the ride earlier than what the itinerary suggested, then that ride will be erased from the itinerary. It will be like checking off that box. If you got a LL pass through G+ but ride the same ride via stand by prior to you reservation time, your G+ reservation will absolutely not be erased.

This makes more sense!

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

They are talking about the free Genie itinerary portion, not Genie+. The Genie app can make you an itinerary to follow, so if you get on the ride earlier than what the itinerary suggested, then that ride will be erased from the itinerary. It will be like checking off that box. If you got a LL pass through G+ but ride the same ride via stand by prior to you reservation time, your G+ reservation will absolutely not be erased.

Well that makes a lot more sense.