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Disney Genie, Genie+ and Individual Lightning Lane Selections (ILL$) officially launch on 10/19/21 at Walt Disney World
Details here: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/genie/
and here: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/genie/lightning-lane/
Deni Sunderly has a great article on WDWInfo explaining how Genie, Genie+ and Individual Lightning Lane Selections will work when it starts on 10/19/21!
https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...ney-world-oct-19-weve-got-all-of-the-details/
The part we're most interested in is the paid "Fastpass" - now called Genie+ service which seems similar to Disneyland's MaxPass - but it is $15 per day per person at WDW, $20 per day per person at Disneyland. You can get 1 Lightning Lane Pass at a time and then get another pass once you've used the first one (there is reportedly a "cool down timer" between requesting passes though - latest estimates are after 2 hours you can get a 2nd Lightning Lane pass, see FAQI have heard 90 minutes).
However it seems to only include "Tier 2" attractions. For E-ticket attractions, it sounds like you will need to pay for Individual Lightning Lane selections (ILL$) - and you can only get 2 of those per day.
From Disney World's Website:
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How It Works
Starting October 19, our new Lightning Lane entrances will be introduced at a wide variety of attractions and entertainment experiences, available through 2 options, which can be combined.
Disney Genie+ Lightning Lane Selections
When you take your day to the next level by purchasing Disney Genie+ service, you can select arrival windows for Lightning Lane entrances that are available at more than 40 attractions and entertainment across all 4 theme parks, one at a time throughout the day.
Price
Disney Genie+ service will be available for $15 per Guest per day.
Individual Lightning Lane Selections (ILL$)
For some of our most highly demanded attractions, Lightning Lane entry will be available for purchase individually. Guests may purchase and select an arrival window one at a time for up to 2 attractions a day. This option will be available for all Guests—with or without Disney Genie+ service.
Price
Pricing and availability will vary by date, attraction and park. Be sure to check the My Disney Experience app on the day of your visit for current prices and attraction availability. (Range currently seems to be between $7 and $15 per person per ride).
Frequently Asked Questions:
1. Can I still get a paper Fastpass or any kind of Fastpass for free?
A: No this is not an option any longer. The only options for "skip the line" for attractions is to pay for Genie+ for 40+ attractions at WDW and 15+ at DLR and for certain attractions to pay individually for a Lightning Lane Pass (prices have not been announced yet).
2. Do I need to buy the Genie+ for $15 to obtain a Lightning Lane pass for Individual Lightning Lane Selections (ILL$) like Seven Dwarfs Mine Train?
A: No you do not need to buy Genie+ to purchase ILL$.
3. What rides will be included in Genie+?
A: For WDW it is advertised that 40 rides will be included with Genie+. This means that some rides will not be included. The rides where you can buy ILL$ will NOT be included in Genie+. Disney has officially said that Seven Dwarfs Mine Train at WDW will not be included.
Here is the official list of rides which you must pay separately for (Individual Lightning Lane Selections or ILL$):
Disneyland Park
and https://disneyland.disney.go.com/genie/
4. Will there be a Genie+ Annual option for Annual Passholders and Magickey holders like there was with MaxPass?
A: At this time, Disney will only be offering a pay per day option to all guests for Genie+ but they have stated they will consider other offerings in the future.
5. What happens if I buy a Lightning Lane pass for a Tier 1 attraction and the ride is down?
A: We honestly don't know yet at this point. Total conjecture - but I would assume you could potentially trade it for a different Lightning Lane Pass for a different ride OR you could get a full refund - but nobody knows for sure yet.
6. Do I have to purchase Genie+ for the entire length of my trip?
No, you can purchase for your entire trip or same day 1 at a time.
No, only standby lines will be in use during these times.
8. Will Genie+ and/or ILL$ work with Park Hopping?
Yes, you will be able to make a reservation for after 2 pm in a different park than the one where you started your day and have your Disney Park Pass reservation. You are still limited to 2 ILL$ passes per day.
9. Will I be able to "stack" Lightning Lane Passes with Genie+ and hold more than 1 LL Pass at a time?
According to this post (Link) yes, similar to the way MaxPass worked, if you select a LL Pass that is more than 2 hours away, you will be able to make a 2nd LL selection after 2 hours have elapsed. For example, it is currently 9am, and you select a LL Pass for a ride at 5pm. At 11am you will be able to make a 2nd selection.
10. How many times can I ride the same ride with Genie+ (e.g. Can I ride Haunted Mansion using the Lightning Lane more than once with Genie+)?
According to theme park journalist Carlye Wisel during the initial launch of Genie+ you will only be able to obtain one Genie+ Lightning Lane per ride, per day but this could change over time. Source:
11. How much will Individual Lightning Lane Selections (ILL$) cost?
Prices will vary by date, attraction and park. For example, the Lightning Lane entrance to Remy's Ratatouille Adventure will be $9 per person on October 19 and $11 per person on October 23. As another example, on both those dates, Lightning Lane entrance to Expedition Everest – Legend of the Forbidden Mountain will be $7 per person, while Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance will be $15 per person. Throughout the year, prices may be lower on some days and higher on other days. This option may be purchased at up to 2 different attractions each day. (Source)
12. Once I select an ILL$ time and ride, can I cancel or change it?
Currently, Disney has said you will be unable to change or cancel an ILL$ selection once you have purchased it. It is unknown what Disney will do if the ride is broken down or unavailable at the time you have selected.
13. What time can I select my first Genie+ LL and purchase ILL$?
For all guests who have purchased Genie+ you will be able to make your first LL selection at 7am.
For guests staying at an onsite hotel, you will be able to make your first ILL$ purchase at 7am. For all other guests, it will be at the time the park opens.
14. More questions answered from Day One experiences on TouringPlans here:
https://touringplans.com/blog/genie-testing-what-we-learned-in-one-day/
Details here: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/genie/
and here: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/genie/lightning-lane/
Deni Sunderly has a great article on WDWInfo explaining how Genie, Genie+ and Individual Lightning Lane Selections will work when it starts on 10/19/21!
https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...ney-world-oct-19-weve-got-all-of-the-details/
The part we're most interested in is the paid "Fastpass" - now called Genie+ service which seems similar to Disneyland's MaxPass - but it is $15 per day per person at WDW, $20 per day per person at Disneyland. You can get 1 Lightning Lane Pass at a time and then get another pass once you've used the first one (there is reportedly a "cool down timer" between requesting passes though - latest estimates are after 2 hours you can get a 2nd Lightning Lane pass, see FAQ
However it seems to only include "Tier 2" attractions. For E-ticket attractions, it sounds like you will need to pay for Individual Lightning Lane selections (ILL$) - and you can only get 2 of those per day.
From Disney World's Website:
-------------------------------------------------
How It Works
Starting October 19, our new Lightning Lane entrances will be introduced at a wide variety of attractions and entertainment experiences, available through 2 options, which can be combined.
Disney Genie+ Lightning Lane Selections
When you take your day to the next level by purchasing Disney Genie+ service, you can select arrival windows for Lightning Lane entrances that are available at more than 40 attractions and entertainment across all 4 theme parks, one at a time throughout the day.
Price
Disney Genie+ service will be available for $15 per Guest per day.
Individual Lightning Lane Selections (ILL$)
For some of our most highly demanded attractions, Lightning Lane entry will be available for purchase individually. Guests may purchase and select an arrival window one at a time for up to 2 attractions a day. This option will be available for all Guests—with or without Disney Genie+ service.
Price
Pricing and availability will vary by date, attraction and park. Be sure to check the My Disney Experience app on the day of your visit for current prices and attraction availability. (Range currently seems to be between $7 and $15 per person per ride).
Frequently Asked Questions:
1. Can I still get a paper Fastpass or any kind of Fastpass for free?
A: No this is not an option any longer. The only options for "skip the line" for attractions is to pay for Genie+ for 40+ attractions at WDW and 15+ at DLR and for certain attractions to pay individually for a Lightning Lane Pass (prices have not been announced yet).
2. Do I need to buy the Genie+ for $15 to obtain a Lightning Lane pass for Individual Lightning Lane Selections (ILL$) like Seven Dwarfs Mine Train?
A: No you do not need to buy Genie+ to purchase ILL$.
3. What rides will be included in Genie+?
A: For WDW it is advertised that 40 rides will be included with Genie+. This means that some rides will not be included. The rides where you can buy ILL$ will NOT be included in Genie+. Disney has officially said that Seven Dwarfs Mine Train at WDW will not be included.
Here is the official list of rides which you must pay separately for (Individual Lightning Lane Selections or ILL$):
Disneyland Park
- Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance
- Radiator Springs Racers
- WEB SLINGERS: A Spider-Man Adventure
- Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
- Space Mountain
- Frozen Ever After
- Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure
- Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway
- Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance
- Avatar Flight of Passage
- Expedition Everest – Legend of the Forbidden Mountain
and https://disneyland.disney.go.com/genie/
4. Will there be a Genie+ Annual option for Annual Passholders and Magickey holders like there was with MaxPass?
A: At this time, Disney will only be offering a pay per day option to all guests for Genie+ but they have stated they will consider other offerings in the future.
5. What happens if I buy a Lightning Lane pass for a Tier 1 attraction and the ride is down?
A: We honestly don't know yet at this point. Total conjecture - but I would assume you could potentially trade it for a different Lightning Lane Pass for a different ride OR you could get a full refund - but nobody knows for sure yet.
6. Do I have to purchase Genie+ for the entire length of my trip?
No, you can purchase for your entire trip or same day 1 at a time.
- Before Your Visit, for the entire length of your trip:
Available as an add-on to a ticket or vacation package for the duration of visit. Purchase via Disneyworld.com or authorized travel professionals. - Same Day of Visit, for a single day:
Available for single-day use for existing ticket holders or Annual Passholders. Purchase via Disney Genie service in the My Disney Experience app.
No, only standby lines will be in use during these times.
8. Will Genie+ and/or ILL$ work with Park Hopping?
Yes, you will be able to make a reservation for after 2 pm in a different park than the one where you started your day and have your Disney Park Pass reservation. You are still limited to 2 ILL$ passes per day.
9. Will I be able to "stack" Lightning Lane Passes with Genie+ and hold more than 1 LL Pass at a time?
According to this post (Link) yes, similar to the way MaxPass worked, if you select a LL Pass that is more than 2 hours away, you will be able to make a 2nd LL selection after 2 hours have elapsed. For example, it is currently 9am, and you select a LL Pass for a ride at 5pm. At 11am you will be able to make a 2nd selection.
10. How many times can I ride the same ride with Genie+ (e.g. Can I ride Haunted Mansion using the Lightning Lane more than once with Genie+)?
According to theme park journalist Carlye Wisel during the initial launch of Genie+ you will only be able to obtain one Genie+ Lightning Lane per ride, per day but this could change over time. Source:
11. How much will Individual Lightning Lane Selections (ILL$) cost?
Prices will vary by date, attraction and park. For example, the Lightning Lane entrance to Remy's Ratatouille Adventure will be $9 per person on October 19 and $11 per person on October 23. As another example, on both those dates, Lightning Lane entrance to Expedition Everest – Legend of the Forbidden Mountain will be $7 per person, while Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance will be $15 per person. Throughout the year, prices may be lower on some days and higher on other days. This option may be purchased at up to 2 different attractions each day. (Source)
12. Once I select an ILL$ time and ride, can I cancel or change it?
Currently, Disney has said you will be unable to change or cancel an ILL$ selection once you have purchased it. It is unknown what Disney will do if the ride is broken down or unavailable at the time you have selected.
13. What time can I select my first Genie+ LL and purchase ILL$?
For all guests who have purchased Genie+ you will be able to make your first LL selection at 7am.
For guests staying at an onsite hotel, you will be able to make your first ILL$ purchase at 7am. For all other guests, it will be at the time the park opens.
14. More questions answered from Day One experiences on TouringPlans here:
https://touringplans.com/blog/genie-testing-what-we-learned-in-one-day/
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