"Disney doesn't know if it's child or adult credit"

[earthyfamily]

I would just like to add, that perhaps if Disney doesn't want us to order off the adult menu, at cs locations, for children on the dining plan, they need offer a wider selection of foods acceptable for all families. For example, we can get a veggie burger meal off of the adult menu at Cosmic Rays...however there is not a single vegetarian meal on the children's menu. Just a thought...that not all the people not abiding by the system are "stealing"...they are doing it out of neccessity.

 

[LarryKeith]

i just read a post that people have used there MYW dining to pay for 4 adultsTS when there Card says 2 adult and 2 kids. Is this true ? Or that they have taken guests with them and then paid OOP for kids and used MYW to pay for adults guests meals. I find it hard to beleive this is possible. I have also read where someone used TS credits to pay for a meals for more than the number of people even listed on there key to the world. Is it that disney wants you to burn credits knowing you will have to pay cash when there drained or is all this just a bunch of he said she said i heard kind of gossip?

 

[pedro2112]

What does make me a bit nervous however is when I read about families who book 2AD 2CH in one room and 2 more adults in another... but only book one room with the dining plan. They pay for all four adults meals at all restaurants from the dining plan and then pay OOP for the kids meals. This doesn't seem right to me.

The dining plan is not transferable. Consequently, anyone who is doing this is in clear violation of the rules. I think it's pretty clear that only people who purchase the dining plan may use the credits.

 

[pedro2112]

BUT the terms of the plan clearly indicate everyone dining at a character meal, dinner show or signature restaurant will have the appropriate number of credits deducted from their account.

Yes, that is the plain language of the contract. It isn't enforced that much, but everyone in our party is using a credit when we do the character meals.

 

[tinkerbeth]

I would just like to add, that perhaps if Disney doesn't want us to order off the adult menu, at cs locations, for children on the dining plan, they need offer a wider selection of foods acceptable for all families. For example, we can get a veggie burger meal off of the adult menu at Cosmic Rays...however there is not a single vegetarian meal on the children's menu. Just a thought...that not all the people not abiding by the system are "stealing"...they are doing it out of neccessity.

ITA. The children's menu choices are often not healthy, or less healthy than adult choices. I would far rather ds split salmon and rice with me than have chicken and fries. I don't like that kids' meals are generally lower quality. aNd I know you can get applesauce or grapes instead of fries but that still doesn't cut it for me.

Beth

 

[Lewisc]

I would just like to add, that perhaps if Disney doesn't want us to order off the adult menu, at cs locations, for children on the dining plan, they need offer a wider selection of foods acceptable for all families. For example, we can get a veggie burger meal off of the adult menu at Cosmic Rays...however there is not a single vegetarian meal on the children's menu. Just a thought...that not all the people not abiding by the system are "stealing"...they are doing it out of neccessity.

If the plan doesn't work for you then you don't have to purchase it. I agree 9 year olds that like adult foods and 11 year olds that eat very little don't do very well with the plan.

I disagree with your conclusion. Your option is not to purchase the plan or pay cash for items that clearly aren't included. I wouldn't have gone so far as to call it stealing but I guess that as good a description as anything else.

 

[Pedler]

If the plan doesn't work for you then you don't have to purchase it. I agree 9 year olds that like adult foods and 11 year olds that eat very little don't do very well with the plan.

I disagree with your conclusion. Your option is not to purchase the plan or pay cash for items that clearly aren't included. I wouldn't have gone so far as to call it stealing but I guess that as good a description as anything else.

As disappointing as I do find the Disney CS kids menus It is pretty clear that if you order a meal for a kid and use the DDP to pay for it you have to get a kids meal. I understand why people go around the plan to do this and LewisC is correct in that this is technically stealing. As he said if the plan doesn't work for you then don't get it. There are people who only eat TS meals all day, no CS at all. The plan doesn't work for them either.

Our solution around this delima was to share our adult CS meals with the kids at most places. In general we would order two adult CS meals or 2 adult and 1 kids CS meals and split them. The only place where we were scofflaws was at Pizza Planet and Pizzafari. There we did get 3 adult CS pizzas. I admit it was stealing but my rationalization, and it is a rationalization, is that who in their right mind would have a pizza place modeled after the place in Toystory and not have a kids Pizza on the menu?

Still LewisC is correct and it was a clear violation of the plan. On the plus side I made up for my being a scofflaw on those two occasions by not speeding at all during our week long trip. Of course I also wasn't driving at all then but I still should get karma credit or something.

 

[traviesojmt]

As disappointing as I do find the Disney CS kids menus It is pretty clear that if you order a meal for a kid and use the DDP to pay for it you have to get a kids meal. I understand why people go around the plan to do this and LewisC is correct in that this is technically stealing. As he said if the plan doesn't work for you then don't get it. There are people who only eat TS meals all day, no CS at all. The plan doesn't work for them either.

Our solution around this delima was to share our adult CS meals with the kids at most places. In general we would order two adult CS meals or 2 adult and 1 kids CS meals and split them. The only place where we were scofflaws was at Pizza Planet and Pizzafari. There we did get 3 adult CS pizzas. I admit it was stealing but my rationalization, and it is a rationalization, is that who in their right mind would have a pizza place modeled after the place in Toystory and not have a kids Pizza on the menu?

Still LewisC is correct and it was a clear violation of the plan. On the plus side I made up for my being a scofflaw on those two occasions by not speeding at all during our week long trip. Of course I also wasn't driving at all then but I still should get karma credit or something.

Ok, that was funny. Now you have started everyone thinking of the good things that they are going to do on vacation so that they can bend the rules somewhere else. Hmmm, I won't pool hop next vacation so it should be alright to use that POFQ refillable mug in the park. Right? Thanks for the laugh. Posts get too serious sometimes.

 

[jbbt]

I won't use my mug I just purchased at Pop in February so that I can keep my towel animals!!!

I must say, it is getting really depressing to read the restaurant and dining plan boards!!

 

[earthyfamily]

I still disagree. I would go as far as to call it discrimination to say that a person that eats animals has more of a right to the ddp than one that does not. There are many, many vegetarians out there, and to not offer a single entree is perfectly ridiculous. I mean seriously, how difficult is it to fix up a kids version of the adult veggie burger meal. I'm not asking for much...a simple veggie burger and we're content. That's more than I can say for most vegetarians. I'm not trying to start anything big here, I'm just saying that Disney needs to realize that vegetarians come in all ages.

 

[disneyjunkie]

I still disagree. I would go as far as to call it discrimination to say that a person that eats animals has more of a right to the ddp than one that does not. There are many, many vegetarians out there, and to not offer a single entree is perfectly ridiculous. I mean seriously, how difficult is it to fix up a kids version of the adult veggie burger meal. I'm not asking for much...a simple veggie burger and we're content. That's more than I can say for most vegetarians. I'm not trying to start anything big here, I'm just saying that Disney needs to realize that vegetarians come in all ages.

Discrimination??

Disney isn't forcing anyone to book the dining plan. It won't work well for every family.

 

[Pedler]

I still disagree. I would go as far as to call it discrimination to say that a person that eats animals has more of a right to the ddp than one that does not. There are many, many vegetarians out there, and to not offer a single entree is perfectly ridiculous. I mean seriously, how difficult is it to fix up a kids version of the adult veggie burger meal. I'm not asking for much...a simple veggie burger and we're content. That's more than I can say for most vegetarians. I'm not trying to start anything big here, I'm just saying that Disney needs to realize that vegetarians come in all ages.

Your issue isn't with the dinning plan as much as it is with what Disney Dinning offers on the menu. It isn't discrimination so much as it is what the market wants. I would guess that there is limited demand for kids vegetarian meals, aside from mac and cheese, at the CS places in Disney.

 

[traviesojmt]

I still disagree. I would go as far as to call it discrimination to say that a person that eats animals has more of a right to the ddp than one that does not. There are many, many vegetarians out there, and to not offer a single entree is perfectly ridiculous. I mean seriously, how difficult is it to fix up a kids version of the adult veggie burger meal. I'm not asking for much...a simple veggie burger and we're content. That's more than I can say for most vegetarians. I'm not trying to start anything big here, I'm just saying that Disney needs to realize that vegetarians come in all ages.

Just wondering: I have found various restaurants to be very accommodating. I would think that if you let the CM know that your child is a vegetarian that they would accommodate you without you having to feel the necessity to get around the Dining plan. I am sure that they wouldn't have a problem with it.

 

[wdwobsessed]

OK ... let me get this straight as this is such a HOT topic and I am so totally on the "pooled" side of things.

Last Day Of Trip ....I have 4CS left ...

Scenario #1 - Order 2A CS meals for lunch at 1pm and split with kids then order 2A CS meals for dinner at 5pm and split with kids = Not stealing.

Scenario #2 - Order 4A CS meals for lunch at 1pm for my family of four all at 1pm by getting in two seperate lines = Stealing.

Am I the only one that sees how stupid this is????????

It really is ... I mean truly. Am I the only one? So waiting 4 hours makes it NOT stealing?



If you don't belive in the pooling of credits - than you are stealing everytime you use a C credit for an A meal. It does not matter if it is one time or six times. It's "stealing" a little vs. "stealing" alot.

Of course I say .....

ON with the pooling! Poolers unite!!!!!

WDWO

 

[mickman1962]

than you are stealing everytime you use a C credit for an A meal. It does not matter if it is one time or six times. It's "stealing" a little vs. "stealing" alot.

agreed

 

[DaveO]

This is getting a bit silly....

It is not 'stealing' unless Disney says it is stealing.

In the DDP brochure and in practice they have clearly stated it is NOT stealing. All credits are pooled and you can you use them as you wish.

To me this is black and white and the folks who claim it is immoral and stealing are just plain wrong according to all the clear evidence.

Dave O.

 

[wdwobsessed]

This is getting a bit silly....

It is not 'stealing' unless Disney says it is stealing.

In the DDP brochure and in practice they have clearly stated it is NOT stealing. All credits are pooled and you can you use them as you wish.

To me this is black and white and the folks who claim it is immoral and stealing are just plain wrong according to all the clear evidence.

Dave O.

Dave - I totally agree with you. I was not calling it stealing and Mickman used my quote out of context. I was saying that people on here say it's ok to sometimes use C for A meals unless you get into two seperate lines to avoid the possibility of a CM not letting you get (for example) 4A CS meals on a 2A 2C card. The suggestion was to share adult meals and save the C credits for later to use again for A meals instead of "not following the rules" by getting in two seperate lines. I was saying that was kind backwards thinking. If you are using the C credits for A meals - why does it matter when?

BTW - I am with you on the pooling thing.

WDWO

 

[Purrrrfecta]

OK ... let me get this straight as this is such a HOT topic and I am so totally on the "pooled" side of things.

Last Day Of Trip ....I have 4CS left ...

Scenario #1 - Order 2A CS meals for lunch at 1pm and split with kids then order 2A CS meals for dinner at 5pm and split with kids = Not stealing.

Scenario #2 - Order 4A CS meals for lunch at 1pm for my family of four all at 1pm by getting in two seperate lines = Stealing.

Am I the only one that sees how stupid this is????????

It really is ... I mean truly. Am I the only one? So waiting 4 hours makes it NOT stealing?



If you don't belive in the pooling of credits - than you are stealing everytime you use a C credit for an A meal. It does not matter if it is one time or six times. It's "stealing" a little vs. "stealing" alot.

Of course I say .....

ON with the pooling! Poolers unite!!!!!

WDWO

 

[earthyfamily]

From my experience they are not accomodating at cs restaurants that don't have veggie kids meals, but that do have veggie adult meals. Not even a little bit. Perhaps you've got to be a vegetarian to feel the discrimination.

 

[BlondeAlligator]

My DD is autistic & on a gluten free/casein free diet for it. Table service won't be a problem since I know the chefs are very helpful, but I'll be hard pressed to find CS food that will be safe for her to eat. Should her credits go to waste if there's nothing she's able to eat on the menu? I am behind the pooling of credits...mainly because it's not as if we can buy the plan for us adults but not for my special needs child. If I am forced to buy it for everyone in the room or not at all, then I am going to make sure I get my money's worth.

BTW...I will gladly use her "child" credits for her character meals even though she most likely won't eat. The plan will cost us $55 for her and it's worth that much to me to see her enjoy the characters at the 4 character meals we are going to.

Flame me if you want, but if Disney allows it, it's not stealing. It's just making the most of the plan. If the powers that be at Disney weren't OK with people using it this way, they would have set it up differently, allowing the distinction between adult credits & child credits on the account.