***Disney Design Addict's Chit Chat,Designs and Pixie Dust! Everybody WELCOME!*** Part 4

[julia & nicks mom]

I had c-sections both times too. They were both breech babies. I think some of us are cut out (no pun intended) for that and other try it, hate it, and say never again. I would have a whole houseful if I could. It's amazing how quickly you forget all the pain and suffering.

I loved that I got to stay in the hospital for four days on pain pills after my c-sections!!! Julia wasn't as big a deal as when I got to with Nick - it was our time to bond and I had someone to take him when I was too tired - man that would be nice now!!!

Although I had a harder recovery with Nick -
with Julia my scar was almost gone by the time I got pregnant with Nick - This one will never go away - it still hurts sometimes and after I had him my entire stomach bruised like I had been beaten - it was much more painful!!!

Did you think the second one was harder to recover from?

 

[Tammi67]

BTW Kate, did you ever take care of that ebay thing?

 

[Steamboat Marti]

You are truly blest. There is a master plan for why things are, we just aren't privy to it.

I really wish I knew the plan! After our heart ache decision to stop, we decided, since I was adopted at three weeks old, that we should try adoption. Paul said - how do we know that is where we are supposed to go?. My response - how do we know its NOT where we are supposed to go.

To keep it short and not cry, we decided on international adoption. We go through a large majority of the process and nearly $10,000 and guess what happens? The president of the country abruptly shuts the country down to all international adoptions.

So if somebody knows what the plan is, share it with me!!!

 

[disneyeveryyear]

Just checking in.

Can't believe we were moved again.

Looking for an update from Denise - maybe tomorrow.

I have nothing to add on the C-Section discussion. I did however ask for a C-Section after 5 hours on the pit this last time (does that count?). Dr. said no. Lucky me, it only took 10 more hours for her to deliver.

Marti, sometimes that realization is the hardest to come to. We also suffered secondary infertility. We did some basic procedures but DH wasn't willing to go any further. His theory was we had 1 healty, happy baby, don't tempt fate. So after some basic infertility treatments (about 1 year), and one miscarriage during that time, we gave up. Amelia Grace is my "miracle" baby.

The hardest thing I ever had to face up to was that we would never have any more children and scheduling a tubal. DH ended up with a vas. instead, but it took me a long time to accept that we were done. I absolutely love babies. For the longest time I couldn't even hold one because it made me want one so badly.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this.

Night.

 

[Tammi67]

Did you think the second one was harder to recover from?

No, I actually thought it was easier. Maybe because by this time I was an "experienced" mom, not going through all the stress of a first-time parent. I had a real emotional issue with Nicholas. My plan was to breastfeed. Well, he was 9lbs6oz and ate like a horse. I was feeding and feeding and he was miserable, crying, seemed like he was constantly hungry. I don't think he was getting anything from me. I tried to pump, to see what was there. Nothing. So on day 6 I finally broke down and gave him a bottle. This was very traumatic for me to do. You know, breastfed babies are healthier, have a better bond with mom, etc etc. So it was very hard for me mentally to get past that. But boy after he got food into him he was like a different baby. Overall, it was the best thing I think in my situation. So with Alyssa, I didn't even try. Went right to the bottle. My pain seemed to be less the second time too. Funny how it effects everyone differently.

 

[disneyeveryyear]

I really wish I knew the plan! After our heart ache decision to stop, we decided, since I was adopted at three weeks old, that we should try adoption. Paul said - how do we know that is where we are supposed to go?. My response - how do we know its NOT where we are supposed to go.

To keep it short and not cry, we decided on international adoption. We go through a large majority of the process and nearly $10,000 and guess what happens? The president of the country abruptly shuts the country down to all international adoptions.

So if somebody knows what the plan is, share it with me!!!

Marti, I don't know your religious leanings, but I truly believe that some day you will know the plan and the whys behind it. If you are a Christian, then all I can say is pray and ask what you are supposed to do. You will get an answer eventually. It may not be the answer you expect, but you will get an answer. Sorry, didn't mean to get preachy.

I am so sorry that your adoption plans exploded like that. What a sad, sad ending. You and Paul seem like the kind of people who are wonderful parents, and would be for 1 or 10. I hope that your dreams are fulfilled.

 

[tinker1bell]

I loved that I got to stay in the hospital for four days on pain pills after my c-sections!!! Julia wasn't as big a deal as when I got to with Nick - it was our time to bond and I had someone to take him when I was too tired - man that would be nice now!!!

Although I had a harder recovery with Nick -
with Julia my scar was almost gone by the time I got pregnant with Nick - This one will never go away - it still hurts sometimes and after I had him my entire stomach bruised like I had been beaten - it was much more painful!!!

Did you think the second one was harder to recover from?

I had three and each one was so very different.

The first was because DS was in breech and was all behind no legs first. It was a military hospital and we had to walk down the hall to eat our meals. we also had to make our beds, This was in 1971 and I was in for 4 days. Cost me $10.75 which was just for the meals.

Second one was in 1974 and we had no insurance and I ended up staying for 6 days. I insisted on a spinal and had to walk from recovery to my room and got the headache and then stayed in bed for over 24 hours. But it was worth it because I heard my DD cry and DH was there too,. Of course he was in the waiting room and the dr came out with DD and said "It's a girl, pulled the blanket back really fast then went into the nursery, and DH really could not even see our DD until she came home,,,total cost $1075.
Third child I told them just put me asleep and tie the tubes. total cost about $300 that was in 1979. But there are perks to having C-sections.

 

[Steamboat Marti]

The hardest thing I ever had to face up to was that we would never have any more children . For the longest time I couldn't even hold one because it made me want one so badly.

I know how you feel - there is no describing it. I am grateful for my healthy boy (that was nearly born at 25 weeks), so I rarely talk about it. This diet coke must have some truth serum in it - or maybe it's been spiked!! There's just no way for anybody else to understand the feeling. Empty isn't the right word. It does suck!

 

[Tammi67]

I really wish I knew the plan! After our heart ache decision to stop, we decided, since I was adopted at three weeks old, that we should try adoption. Paul said - how do we know that is where we are supposed to go?. My response - how do we know its NOT where we are supposed to go.

To keep it short and not cry, we decided on international adoption. We go through a large majority of the process and nearly $10,000 and guess what happens? The president of the country abruptly shuts the country down to all international adoptions.

So if somebody knows what the plan is, share it with me!!!

Oh Marti, I am so sorry. My heart aches for you and DH. Any child would be lucky to have you both. I guess it is hardest not knowing why.

 

[Steamboat Marti]

You and Paul seem like the kind of people who are wonderful parents, and would be for 1 or 10. I hope that your dreams are fulfilled.

thanks.

with that, I'm going to bed. Turned out to be a tougher night than I thought. Enjoy page 1,000. Give me a shout out if you can.

glad we don't have the web cams on - you guys wouldn't like this sight!

 

[disneyeveryyear]

I know how you feel - there is no describing it. I am grateful for my healthy boy (that was nearly born at 25 weeks), so I rarely talk about it. This diet coke must have some truth serum in it - or maybe it's been spiked!! There's just no way for anybody else to understand the feeling. Empty isn't the right word. It does suck!

It is also hard to talk to anyone about this. If they have kids,and don't have problems conceiving, then they don't understand. If they have never conceived, they feel that we don't understand. Somehow we are in the middle of fertility issues. Don't quite know where I fit in it all.

 

[julia & nicks mom]

BTW Kate, did you ever take care of that ebay thing?

Yep - thanks for the reminder!!

 

[Tammi67]

thanks.

with that, I'm going to bed. Turned out to be a tougher night than I thought. Enjoy page 1,000. Give me a shout out if you can.

glad we don't have the web cams on - you guys wouldn't like this sight!

to you. Good night.

 

[julia & nicks mom]

Sending you all hugs!!

DH is adopted and never understood my INTENSE desire to be a mom - and be pregnant -

I came to the belief after I had Julia that we all have children that are destined to be ours - and God will send them to us if and when it is time - but I sure didn't like waiting for him to reveal his plan!!!

 

[tinker1bell]

Before I found this thread.

Just a question to everyone. Do you wear Christmas design shirts?

I started a few years ago and now have one to wear every work day for the whole month of December. Now I have to change my thinking because the ones that I have are from before I found this site. Need to make new ones. I am thinking sweaters down past my waist with designs are not what I want anymore.

 

[julia & nicks mom]

No, I actually thought it was easier. Maybe because by this time I was an "experienced" mom, not going through all the stress of a first-time parent. I had a real emotional issue with Nicholas. My plan was to breastfeed. Well, he was 9lbs6oz and ate like a horse. I was feeding and feeding and he was miserable, crying, seemed like he was constantly hungry. I don't think he was getting anything from me. I tried to pump, to see what was there. Nothing. So on day 6 I finally broke down and gave him a bottle. This was very traumatic for me to do. You know, breastfed babies are healthier, have a better bond with mom, etc etc. So it was very hard for me mentally to get past that. But boy after he got food into him he was like a different baby. Overall, it was the best thing I think in my situation. So with Alyssa, I didn't even try. Went right to the bottle. My pain seemed to be less the second time too. Funny how it effects everyone differently.

I can't breastfeed b/c of my breast reduction but I always got so mad when people would try to talk me into it and me saying no wasn't sufficient to them - I had to say why before they would stop trying to make me feel like a failure of a mom!!!

I don't know a mom who could love her kids more than me - my kids are thriving and very smart - all that without breastfeeding

I think it really depends on the family on whether it is best for them - I am sure the emotional stress you felt made the recovery seem worse!!

Oh - I did hemorage (spelling?) after Julia - but that was b/c she was put in the hospital at 11 days old for a seizure workup - after sobbing for 6 straight hours and not sleeping for two straight days - my body had had enough - the nurses at children's wanted to send me to the hospital and I refused to go - luckily my doctor agreed that if I promised to just lay on the couch next to Julia in her room and come see him if it got worse - I could stay!!

 

[Tammi67]

It's getting to be that witching hour so I will say good night to the few of you that are still here. I have to deal with a birthday boy tomorrow, or should I say today, so I need my rest! Have a good night!

 

[julia & nicks mom]

Happy Birthday Nicholas!!

 

[Tammi67]

I think it really depends on the family on whether it is best for them - I am sure the emotional stress you felt made the recovery seem worse!!

Oh - I did hemorage (spelling?) after Julia - but that was b/c she was put in the hospital at 11 days old for a seizure workup - after sobbing for 6 straight hours and not sleeping for two straight days - my body had had enough - the nurses at children's wanted to send me to the hospital and I refused to go - luckily my doctor agreed that if I promised to just lay on the couch next to Julia in her room and come see him if it got worse - I could stay!!

I know what you mean. I have a girlfriend that calls them "breastfeeding nazi's".



Why was Julia getting a seizure workup?

 

[Tammi67]

Before I found this thread.

Just a question to everyone. Do you wear Christmas design shirts?

I started a few years ago and now have one to wear every work day for the whole month of December. Now I have to change my thinking because the ones that I have are from before I found this site. Need to make new ones. I am thinking sweaters down past my waist with designs are not what I want anymore.

I have a few Christmas sweaters and blouses, but that is about the extent of it, other than the ones for my trip.