Disney Boycott?

larry_poppins

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Anyone planning a Disney Boycott if the Board doesn't put Eisner on the unemployment line?

I have personally stopped eating on property at Disneyland when I visit. I don't buy their merchandise. And avoiding Disney movies is easy to do.

Just wondering if others are dining on Harbor Blvd? Anyone spending more time at Universal due to the Eisner idiocy?

Larry Poppins
 
I started my boycott in jan while I was in Orlando for 4 weeks, the only Disney park I went to was Blizzard Beach. And my family will make absolutely no plans to visit any Disney theme park until the changes desired by the devoted fans like us materialize such as the exodus of Michael Eisner and an appropiate new council of leadership is installed.


AND THAT MEANS NO PUPPET LEADERS
 
Oh yeah, lets all boycott, drop the income of park operations and attendance, then complain because the company doesn't make capital improvements :rolleyes:

Guess what, drop in attendance = lack of revenue = no free funds for major improvements. Eisner has 2 years remaining on his contract. Do you think he'll leave without it costing the company big bucks? Better to let him finish out his contract, then depart. Since the new Chairman is reportedly a temporary thing until a true replacement is found, at least wait and see what the replacement does before crying "Boycott".
 
We've already started visiting Universal but mainly because we enjoy the place. We are also checking out new places more often. We still go to Disney but we spend much less time than before. Disney just isn't as fun as it once was IMO and I'd rather spend my money doing new things for a while.
 

I am only going to Disney World every chance I get, instead of everytime Zurgswife wants to go. It may not sound like much but it is.

LOL
 
I kind of suspected that I was not the only one who was cutting back on the money they were giving to Emperor Eisner. As the magic gets chipped away so does the money I spend with the company.

Larry
 
Originally posted by larry_poppins
Anyone planning a Disney Boycott if the Board doesn't put Eisner on the unemployment line?

I have personally stopped eating on property at Disneyland when I visit. I don't buy their merchandise. And avoiding Disney movies is easy to do.

Just wondering if others are dining on Harbor Blvd? Anyone spending more time at Universal due to the Eisner idiocy?

Larry Poppins

Personally I see no reason to make the lowly hourly worker suffer any more then they already do under the reign of Eisner.....He won't suffer....they will....He will leave with a huge compensation package whether he goes now or later and us not visiting the parks will only cause layoffs of the hourly workers..

I want Eisner out but a boycott of Disney IMHO isn't the way to accomplish it....
 
True, a boycott will hurt those lower down much earlier before it hurts The Big Idiot.

But think about what you're doing when you say "I'm still going on a magical® vacation!"

You're telling Eisner that he's absolutely right. You're telling him that you don't care about the hours cuts, the reduction in value, the slashing of the staff, the closing of attractions and rides. You're giving him the permission to continue to dismantle the Stores, to continue churning out insipid movies and to otherwise his basic premise: People will buy anything with a Disney sticker, so make the lowest, level cheap crud because "good" doesn't matter to the brand monkeys.

You know how many postings on these kinds of boards that get passed around in Burbank to "prove" what a fine job they're all doing?

What has kept Eisner in power – and Disney sliding into the dumps – are all those magical® fans that continue to buy all that magical® merchandise and magically® accept less for their buck. We are to blame for the company's failings because we let Eisner get away with them.

So tell me, how exactly does keeping Eisner around help the average cast member. There have been massive layoffs at the parks and entire core divisions like Feature Animation and WDI were sent packing.

Ever think about all those talented, gifted and hard working animators you shoved into the street when you bought that copy of Piglet's Big Movie? You told Eisner – through your "support" of Disney – that it's okay if real animators are replaced with overseas sweat shops. Seventy-five years of tradition, some of the best American movies ever made, timeless classics that are part of growing up.

There won't be any more because you said, "I don't care – have my money."

Hope that makes you feel magical®.

Oh – and expect to be talking to Bombay next time you make your hotel reservation for WDW. I'm sure they'll magically® thank you for your magical® support too.

And yes – Eisner will probably get a huge fat parting gift to go away. I choose not to contribute to that fund.
 
Oddly enough, without Eisner there wouldn't currently be much of Disney to boycot! (referring back to when he first came in).

Personally I'll be sad to see him go - the man's a shrewd, cold, calculating wotsit... but he's kept the company afloat, albeit not so much last year.

As for boycotting... nah. It would hurt too much!



Rich::
 
I can’t believe what I’m reading here. “Boycott Disney”? What’s that all about? It just seems almost childlike to boycott the place that everyone on this board feels to passionate about because of one man. It’s only going to hurt the workers not Eisner, he’s set for life. But not only will it hurt the workers it would hurt our families to say “No more Disney!” Try to explain to your kids that there will be no more Disney Vacations because of your political views towards Eisner. I don’t care what you say, Universal isn’t going to keep you satisfied for a week or more like WDW always does. And that special Disney Magic will never be anywhere other than Diseny. My last WDW Vacation was so perfect because of each and ever cast member, I would NEVER dream of Boycotting them. Seems to me like this is the time to stand behind those people to show how much you care for the place that Walt Disney built and the place they’re working so hard to make special for you day in and day out. There’s other ways to show your concern for the way Eisner performs his job, (disboards is a good place to start) but don’t hurt anyone in the process.
 
It seems a like a huge CATCH 22, boycott Disney to hurt them in the wallet because you don't like the cuts in maintenance, the reduction of hours, no new major attractions, etc, etc, etc... but then on the flip side the more people that boycott the less revenue will be so then upper management will decide that they were justified in cutting park hours, etc, etc... because people aren't visiting.

You would think a business should work opposite that, but in this day and age I don't think it does. When a company reaches a certain size, like Disney, you can boycott all you want it still won't put a dent in anything.

I for one still have a good time at Disney and dislike Univeral immensely, I usually go once a year because my partner likes IOA, but the less money I spend there, the better.
 
Will everyone please go back and read AV's post? THAT is the truth!
 
Originally posted by Mr D
I started my boycott in jan while I was in Orlando for 4 weeks, the only Disney park I went to was Blizzard Beach. And my family will make absolutely no plans to visit any Disney theme park until the changes desired ....
But didn't you also spend quite a lot of time at Disney Quest? And didn't you purchase annual passes for both Blizzard Beach and Disney Quest for you and your son?

If not pumping more money into Disney was your plan, then kudos to you, I guess, for not going the park route and spending more money in the theme parks. But what you did was hardly a "boycott."

BOYCOTT : To abstain from or act together in abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with as an expression of protest.

You didn't abstain ... you downgraded.

:earsboy:
 
You're giving him the permission to continue to dismantle the Stores

Thanks, AV. Sometimes, i think people forget about us.

It was my intention to (hoepfully get the chance) to ask the following question last Wenesday at the stockholder's meeting:

To quote the 2003 annual report: "More people visit the Disney Store annually than visit all of Disney's parks and resorts. It is the face of Disney in hometowns accross the country." If this is the case, why are not even considering anymore the option of keeping a smaller number of stores open instead of selling or closing the chain? Mr Iger said [earlier in the meeting] that
"businesses work in concert." We must use the Disney Stores as a more effective tool to sell our company's products accross the board. Can I have an honest answer from you as to what you are doing to and with our stores?

I didn't get the opportunity to ask it because by 1:30pm, I was so hungary I had I headache from not eating! I was there at 7am, and found out i could not bring in the bag I had (with food in it), yet this meeting that was supposed to be over at noon, went on until 3:30!

i actually had no plans to go to WDW this year (was supposed to go to DL, but that got cancelled). The little guy will get hurt in the end. Beleive me, i know it!

Someone mentioned that Mittchell as Chairman should be temporary. My dad says the same thing. I sure hope so!:D
 
"When a company reaches a certain size, like Disney, you can boycott all you want it still won't put a dent in anything."

No – the point is to get them change.

Southern Californians have been "boycotting" California Adventure since opening day. At the time it opened, the park was the same price as Disneyland, was excluded from any discounts and annual passes, and the master plan did include so much as a new plush cart for the first five years.

Today – thanks to millions and millions of people withholding their money – the park is free with the purchase of a Disneyland ticket, a major (if cut rate) attraction is about to open, several smaller additions have been made and the entertainment has been drastically upgraded. Of course, this being Eisner's park, all of those upgrades have been disastrously mismanaged, but Disney trying to respond. A real management team would have fixed the problems the public expressed, but this is Eisner after all.

The only hope left is to show Wall Street and others – who are listening like they have never listened in the past – that Eisner's "the brand monkeys will buy anything" strategy is a flop. We can show Wall Street that Disney really is a business and has to act like a business. You know, actually please its customers.

Holding your noses and "supporting" the cast member is simply handing your wallet over to Eisner. He’ll still turn around and slash his employees so the longer he stays around the worse it gets for them.

Let's get this over and done with. Pry Eisner's cold dead finger from your cash so we can get back to work.



P.S. An excellent question Doombuggy. You never would have gotten an honest answer. But here one is: the stores caught a wave of popularity based on their novelty and a string of excellent Disney movies. That wave crested when Animation wasn't allowed to make great films anymore and over saturation of the stores removed the novelty (or destination retail) allure from them. Poor management of the company – namely ABC – required the other businesses to prop up Eisner's promised financial returns (the basis of his power). The stores shifted to high margin, high volume items as an easy way to increase returns without additional investment. But there is a limit to the number of plush and princess dresses the public can consume. When those items failed to meet the ever higher goals, the company found it easier to run down the "margin/volume" spiral faster rather than create a new business strategy. Worse, outlets and outside retail (WalMart) were quickly added to mix as another easy way of making money. Disney became a low cost supplier to their own competition. Current management can't figure a way out of the problem, so here too they are selecting the easy way out. They're running away like frightened little girls.
 
I'm surprised anybody remembers my little trip to Orlando back in january, in retrospect 4 weeks was too long and too early in the winter because after my return from the warm sunny days to my home here north of Anchorage, Alaska I found I still had at least 3-4 months more of winter, thats right, usually the last ice to thaw out on the lakes usually occurs late may and rarely even into the first week of june or so.

Sure I went to Disney Quest, 4 times I think, and BB maybe 5 or 6 times, but I owed that to my 10 year old son, he could not rationalize what a boycott means and missing out on Disney doesn't really bother him either. Our previous trip to WDW was in dec of 2001 and before was DL in 2000, maybe it was the year before because DCA wasn't quite open then so it may have been 1999.

So if we were to return to any Disney park it usually happens on a two year cycle and I'm personally hoping our next visit will be TDS in Japan. That is unless major corporate changes occur that motivates me otherwise but this year my money is going to the purchase of an Optoma 65" HDTV DLP widescreen, about $5,500 roughly and a room extension to make my home theatre a bit larger. THATS where my money is going instead to supporting Eisners retirement (though its a moot point because its drawn from years past) and severance pay. But I can rationalize my self to redirect my personal enjoyment instead of supporting anothers, and that extends to any circumstance affecting cast members that may be in the line of fire.

My advice to those currently working in the house of mouse...lash yourselves to the mast cause a storms a'comin and the ship may take on water. Grab your life preserver now and prepare to abandon ship before it sinks and sucks you down to the bottomless depths. Soon I expect the notion of a mass cast member job walkout will take effect, say just before the summer season (personally I wish the day before Gay Days;) )



Now this isn't a forecast of what will happen but more of an idea of what should happen to occur, if WDW lost even 10% of its workforce for a week it would stun them unlike anything other than a direct terrorist attack, anything more say wishfully a 50% or more reduction of available bodies to greet the numbly paying guests would effectively shut the park down.

And when and of if that happens the whole world will react from the families coming from the UK, the locals with PAP's, those weird and funny Brazilian tour groups conquering EPCOT :rolleyes: and the world will respond in an anticlimate effect of outrage and further Disney denial, Eisner would or could become a global pariah, the ultimate Scrooge McDuck, an evil dark lord that EVERYONE will look at and focus their rage upon.


But could this actually happen?......,,::yes::
 
I hope your boycott call is successfull.

It will make the crowds much lighter when my family and I head home to the BWV for New Years Eve whilst you losers are busy huffing and puffing and fooling yourselves into thinking you are important.

ford family
 
Can someone give me an example of a successfull recent boycott ? Two most recent that come to mind are Gay Days and the Confederate Flag. Oh wait, isn't The Passion being boycott'ed also ? How's that going ? 212 mil in 12 days, judge for yourself.

My feeling is that a boycott will have a profound affect on one person...actually two, DW and myself. Despite every pro/con-Roy/Mikey-good show/bad show, chip,chip,chip arguement, the bottom line is that DW and I have NEVER been disappointed in a trip to WDW. I'm sorry, but there is just too much to do there to have a hissy fit because X is closed.

And in the bigger scheme of things in my life I still have to remember: We're talking about a theme park, not heaven & hell.
 
Originally posted by KNWVIKING
Can someone give me an example of a successfull recent boycott ? Two most recent that come to mind are Gay Days and the Confederate Flag. Oh wait, isn't The Passion being boycott'ed also ? How's that going ? 212 mil in 12 days, judge for yourself.

My feeling is that a boycott will have a profound affect on one person...actually two, DW and myself. Despite every pro/con-Roy/Mikey-good show/bad show, chip,chip,chip arguement, the bottom line is that DW and I have NEVER been disappointed in a trip to WDW. I'm sorry, but there is just too much to do there to have a hissy fit because X is closed.

And in the bigger scheme of things in my life I still have to remember: We're talking about a theme park, not heaven & hell.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Why should I boycott something that I've never been disappointed with? Should I do it just because others are disappointed any aren't happy with the way the company is being run? No.
 















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