Disney’s Lakeshore Lodge Coming to former Reflections Site in 2027!

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the rooms closest to/facing Trail's End don't seem to have balconies, which matches with an earlier statement about this side of the resort being cash/hotel style rooms.

Additionally, the original Reflections artwork suggested those A-Frame cabins being complimented by small treehouse-style cabins (closer to the north-east coastline), but I haven't seen anything that reflects those being built. I wonder if they were scraped for more A-Frames.

Speaking of which, I know it's unlikely but I'd love it if those A-Frame cabins were 3-bedroom units. Something small unstairs plus 2 bedrooms downstairs. Would make the point-value rationale easier to justify for me.
 
Interesting. I can't imagine all the time slots would be full tomorrow morning!


Exactly. I am wondering if it was a less enthusiastic DVC kiosk rep or something and they just gave the free time to roam rather than setup an actual sales walkthrough 🤔
I feel like something changed, maybe they don't want to sell add-ons just new members. When I was there last week I kept getting the same cold off putting response no matter where I spoke to someone. In 2021 I went to WDW and toured every single DVC resort by simply showing up and asking the guide if I could see the rooms. Only Polynesian had a problem and I had to return the next day to tour those. This time it felt like I was asking for free points or something, the only thing I was offered were the open hour, not even allowed to try to schedule something for another time let alone just show up.
 
When I was there last week I kept getting the same cold off putting response no matter where I spoke to someone
That was the feeling , like they did not want to talk. .... at AK , and MK ( at the lounge they were all stressing about seating people at tables 5 people doing what one host could have done)
 
I know it's pretty much out of the question, but can you imagine if Disney decides to continue the Skyliner to Lakeshore Lodge, Wilderness lodge and on to MK. Edit. Looking closer at the map, it would probably more likely to have the gondola between FW/LL, WL to MK. Probably way too expensive to run it all the way from Epcot, would be pretty awesome though.
 
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I know it's pretty much out of the question, but can you imagine if Disney decides to continue the Skyliner to Lakeshore Lodge, Wilderness lodge and on to MK.
I get the appeal of the skyliner, but I think you’re more likely to see a monorail expansion to LL than a skyliner one. For one, the ride times would be very long. Second you have the constant weather closures. Third, im not sure how they would efficiently build that route.
 
I know it's pretty much out of the question, but can you imagine if Disney decides to continue the Skyliner to Lakeshore Lodge, Wilderness lodge and on to MK. Edit. Looking closer at the map, it would probably more likely to have the gondola between FW/LL, WL to MK. Probably way too expensive to run it all the way from Epcot, would be pretty awesome though.
Google says the gondolas move at about 11 mph. It’s like 4 or 5 miles as the crow flies from Epcot area to MK area. That’s like 20-30 minutes in one of those things.

No thanks! 😂
 
I feel like something changed, maybe they don't want to sell add-ons just new members. When I was there last week I kept getting the same cold off putting response no matter where I spoke to someone. In 2021 I went to WDW and toured every single DVC resort by simply showing up and asking the guide if I could see the rooms. Only Polynesian had a problem and I had to return the next day to tour those. This time it felt like I was asking for free points or something, the only thing I was offered were the open hour, not even allowed to try to schedule something for another time let alone just show up.
Fascinating. They're not even guides so it's not like you're wasting their time if you're not seriously considering the purchase. Current members add-on all the time and it's not like you're getting free FP+ in the old days so you're taking time out of your trip for a reason.

At this point I would try signing up under another phone number and email to see if I was treated differently 🤣
 
Google says the gondolas move at about 11 mph. It’s like 4 or 5 miles as the crow flies from Epcot area to MK area. That’s like 20-30 minutes in one of those things.

No thanks! 😂
I get it, it would also make evacuation very difficult because of the terrain that it would need to travel over. I do think it would be doable from FW/LL WL and MK though. Disney is going to need to add a lot of busses just to service LL.
 
Fascinating. They're not even guides so it's not like you're wasting their time if you're not seriously considering the purchase. Current members add-on all the time and it's not like you're getting free FP+ in the old days so you're taking time out of your trip for a reason.

At this point I would try signing up under another phone number and email to see if I was treated differently 🤣
Possible that they have been asked to focus on PIT for the time being.
 
Fascinating. They're not even guides so it's not like you're wasting their time if you're not seriously considering the purchase.
It is one thing to go on "a (sales) tour", it is another to look at the rooms. It is possible that they are trying to nudge people "who want to just look around" into a sales conversation.
 
Bay Lake is going to be BUSY
We were at BRV in June and the bus to MK went to FW first then on to MK. Not many seemed to get on at the fort, but seeing the size of LL it is going to be busy. I would imagine the LL will have a bus stop similar to the one at Riviera. Also, when you take the bus from FW, it stops at the Contemporary. I don't remember the WL bus going to FW in the past, but I could be mistaken.
 
It is one thing to go on "a (sales) tour", it is another to look at the rooms. It is possible that they are trying to nudge people "who want to just look around" into a sales conversation.
Ahh so you're saying use the open house time to hook people 🤔
 
It could be that the open house is the open house, but if you want to see something outside those times, you can do so on a sales tour. Or it could just all be a concidence because some other thing is going on behind the scenes that had the CMs squirrelly.
 
I had a really strange experience with the guides out at VDH about 2 months after it opened. I went in to the office to look at the models and some other stuff. The few things I said to them were met with short flat responses and what really felt like deliberate leave us alone. Not sure how they expect to make any sales like that? If I hadn’t said anything, the whole time would’ve been silence.
 
At WDW in May we went to the tour during the designated time for everyone and asked to tour the Bungalows. They set us up with someone separately right away. I have heard more than once across various platforms that CFW sales interactions have been very bad. Someone even said I want to buy and they were told they had no time.
 
Lakeshore Lodge Mega Update: Fort Wilderness Hotel Reaches Full Height, Theming Elements Arrive

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I’ll offer some commentary here and echo statements that I’ve published before. I’m not a fan of the location of the Disney Lakeshore Lodge hotel – at least, as it relates to the Pioneer Hall area. I think the hotel will be wonderful, with a great pool area and stunning views of Bay Lake. It will very likely be beloved by those who stay there. The concept could be the best that Walt Disney World has created in a very long time – if it existed in a bubble. Unfortunately, it doesn’t. I wish that Disney had been able to figure out a way to either push the resort further west, closer to Wilderness Lodge, or take it to the east side of Bay Lake, out of the way of Fort Wilderness’ waterfront. The tranquility of the waterfront near Pioneer Hall is very likely gone for good.

With that out of the way, let’s jump on a boat from Magic Kingdom to Fort Wilderness and check out the views of Lakeshore Lodge from…the lake.


In order to get our bearings a bit, we need to understand the layout of the hotel. Essentially, we have two U-shaped sections. One U-shaped section looks northwest toward Magic Kingdom, while the other U-shaped section looks northeast with views of Bay Lake. As we go through our photo update, we’ll make reference to the northwest section and the northeast section. In general, our watercraft travels from Magic Kingdom to Fort Wilderness from west to east, meaning that we’ll first take a look at the northwest-facing section, followed by the northeast-facing section.

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Here’s a late-June aerial photo of the hotel, showing those two U-shaped sections. This aerial photo was taken from northeast of the construction site, providing a sort of reverse view of the permit above.

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Via: Bioreconstruct
Ok, back to our trip from Magic Kingdom to Fort Wilderness. As we float past a lush island near Wilderness Lodge, the Lakeshore Lodge hotel comes into view. This section of the resort isn’t quite at full height, but it is very close. Other sections of the resort have reached their full height. A good indication of whether or not a particular section of the hotel has reached full height is if you can see a roof installed or not.

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We can see that the roof line is starting to take shape with some themed elements created out of steel. Some of the steel structures appear to hide elevator shafts, while others are decorative in nature and hang over room balconies. It also looks like Disney could be creating a new dock which would provide excellent views of the nightly fireworks show across Bay Lake at Magic Kingdom.

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As we continue to float past the hotel, the northeast-facing section is starting to come into view. This will be the “main” area of the hotel, cradling what is expected to be a rather dynamic pool area.

We start with a view of a structure starting to rise right along the shore of Bay Lake. I’m not sure what this structure will be, but it is considerably in the foreground, with the pool area in between it and the hotel in the distance.

Because of vegetation along the shoreline, the northwest part of the hotel comes into view before the central section of the hotel. I’m happy to see that Disney has kept quite a number of trees along the shoreline. This section of the hotel has reached its full height, as we can see the roof line theming pretty much all the way around this northeast-facing U-shaped section.

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Another big milestone on this project since we last checked in is the construction of the main lobby area. The steel framing below will create the entrance experience. The porte cochere is on the opposite side of the angle seen below, and we’ll have a look at that a little later in this article.

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Panoramic view of Lakeshore Lodge from Fort Wilderness boat launch dock
As seen in the panorama photo above, the tent-like structures continue to be installed along the shoreline. These will be part of the Lakeshore Lodge hotel, but they are upcharge “bungalows” like we’ve seen at Wilderness Lodge and Disney’s Polynesian Village Resort. Here’s a closer look at the progress on these tent bungalows.


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There are still more structures to be installed, as evidenced by the plumbing in an overgrown area nearest the boat dock. Once the buildout is complete, permits indicate that there will be 14 of these tent-like structures.

There are a number of similar structures on the west side of the construction site. They’re a little bit more difficult to see during the watercraft journey between Magic Kingdom and Fort Wilderness. We’ll get a better look at this cluster of bungalows from the bus ride past the front of the resort.

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Ok, with our feet back on dry land, it’s time to check out the Lakeshore Lodge construction from a few vantage points around The Settlement/Pioneer Hall. I’ve said it in previous updates, but it’s worth repeating – it’s difficult to represent just how much Lakeshore Lodge imposes on this area of Fort Wilderness. The photos below were taken with different focal length lenses, which can distort the depth of a photo. In general, I would take the “objects are closer than they appear” approach when viewing these photos. Here’s a look around!

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Click link for additional images and the rest of the article.
 
Lakeshore Lodge Mega Update: Fort Wilderness Hotel Reaches Full Height, Theming Elements Arrive

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I’ll offer some commentary here and echo statements that I’ve published before. I’m not a fan of the location of the Disney Lakeshore Lodge hotel – at least, as it relates to the Pioneer Hall area. I think the hotel will be wonderful, with a great pool area and stunning views of Bay Lake. It will very likely be beloved by those who stay there. The concept could be the best that Walt Disney World has created in a very long time – if it existed in a bubble. Unfortunately, it doesn’t. I wish that Disney had been able to figure out a way to either push the resort further west, closer to Wilderness Lodge, or take it to the east side of Bay Lake, out of the way of Fort Wilderness’ waterfront. The tranquility of the waterfront near Pioneer Hall is very likely gone for good.

With that out of the way, let’s jump on a boat from Magic Kingdom to Fort Wilderness and check out the views of Lakeshore Lodge from…the lake.


In order to get our bearings a bit, we need to understand the layout of the hotel. Essentially, we have two U-shaped sections. One U-shaped section looks northwest toward Magic Kingdom, while the other U-shaped section looks northeast with views of Bay Lake. As we go through our photo update, we’ll make reference to the northwest section and the northeast section. In general, our watercraft travels from Magic Kingdom to Fort Wilderness from west to east, meaning that we’ll first take a look at the northwest-facing section, followed by the northeast-facing section.

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Here’s a late-June aerial photo of the hotel, showing those two U-shaped sections. This aerial photo was taken from northeast of the construction site, providing a sort of reverse view of the permit above.

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Via: Bioreconstruct
Ok, back to our trip from Magic Kingdom to Fort Wilderness. As we float past a lush island near Wilderness Lodge, the Lakeshore Lodge hotel comes into view. This section of the resort isn’t quite at full height, but it is very close. Other sections of the resort have reached their full height. A good indication of whether or not a particular section of the hotel has reached full height is if you can see a roof installed or not.

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We can see that the roof line is starting to take shape with some themed elements created out of steel. Some of the steel structures appear to hide elevator shafts, while others are decorative in nature and hang over room balconies. It also looks like Disney could be creating a new dock which would provide excellent views of the nightly fireworks show across Bay Lake at Magic Kingdom.

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As we continue to float past the hotel, the northeast-facing section is starting to come into view. This will be the “main” area of the hotel, cradling what is expected to be a rather dynamic pool area.

We start with a view of a structure starting to rise right along the shore of Bay Lake. I’m not sure what this structure will be, but it is considerably in the foreground, with the pool area in between it and the hotel in the distance.

Because of vegetation along the shoreline, the northwest part of the hotel comes into view before the central section of the hotel. I’m happy to see that Disney has kept quite a number of trees along the shoreline. This section of the hotel has reached its full height, as we can see the roof line theming pretty much all the way around this northeast-facing U-shaped section.

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Another big milestone on this project since we last checked in is the construction of the main lobby area. The steel framing below will create the entrance experience. The porte cochere is on the opposite side of the angle seen below, and we’ll have a look at that a little later in this article.

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Panoramic view of Lakeshore Lodge from Fort Wilderness boat launch dock
As seen in the panorama photo above, the tent-like structures continue to be installed along the shoreline. These will be part of the Lakeshore Lodge hotel, but they are upcharge “bungalows” like we’ve seen at Wilderness Lodge and Disney’s Polynesian Village Resort. Here’s a closer look at the progress on these tent bungalows.


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There are still more structures to be installed, as evidenced by the plumbing in an overgrown area nearest the boat dock. Once the buildout is complete, permits indicate that there will be 14 of these tent-like structures.

There are a number of similar structures on the west side of the construction site. They’re a little bit more difficult to see during the watercraft journey between Magic Kingdom and Fort Wilderness. We’ll get a better look at this cluster of bungalows from the bus ride past the front of the resort.

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Ok, with our feet back on dry land, it’s time to check out the Lakeshore Lodge construction from a few vantage points around The Settlement/Pioneer Hall. I’ve said it in previous updates, but it’s worth repeating – it’s difficult to represent just how much Lakeshore Lodge imposes on this area of Fort Wilderness. The photos below were taken with different focal length lenses, which can distort the depth of a photo. In general, I would take the “objects are closer than they appear” approach when viewing these photos. Here’s a look around!

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Click link for additional images and the rest of the article.
Thanks for your commentary mrsap. It helps me understand this project a bit better.
 

















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