Disney’s Lakeshore Lodge Coming to former Reflections Site in 2027!

[Patmcpsu]

If the Poly tower threads showed us something, is that people will hate it when being built (surprise! Work in progress construction looks hideous) and then feel that it looks better than expected.

People will also admonish that Disney is "cheaping out" because a steel tower is more efficient to build, and then love the fact that the steel tower has lower maintenance fees because it's more efficient to maintain.

 

[davidhr]

People will also admonish that Disney is "cheaping out" because a steel tower is more efficient to build, and then love the fact that the steel tower has lower maintenance fees because it's more efficient to maintain.

“Oh the Poly dues are lower this year. I wonder how that happened!”

 

[muppets3d]

People will also admonish that Disney is "cheaping out" because a steel tower is more efficient to build, and then love the fact that the steel tower has lower maintenance fees because it's more efficient to maintain.

Will the lower construction costs be reflected in the points charts or the cost to buy points?

 

[Patmcpsu]

Will the lower construction costs be reflected in the points charts or the cost to buy points?

If you own at a property, you would rather it have an expensive points chart with cheap maintenance fees than vice versa. It minimizes your cost out of pocket, and prices-out people from elsewhere who may be paying more $/pt in fees each year.

Poly's Point chart is about 30% more expensive than my current home resort (Bay Lake Tower), but I ask myself if I would spend 30% more dollars to stay at Poly than BLT, and the answer is yes.

 

[zavandor]

I may need to move #5 way up the list of possibilities:

https://blogmickey.com/2024/12/land-clearing-west-magic-kingdom-roadway-expansion-new-hotel/

I predict 50 points a night in September for studios with Adventurland view

 

[RanDIZ]

People will also admonish that Disney is "cheaping out" because a steel tower is more efficient to build, and then love the fact that the steel tower has lower maintenance fees because it's more efficient to maintain.

I’m not a tower fan at all. I really wish Disney would stop the madness already. Unfortunately, with real estate at a premium, towers is all we’re probably going to see in the future.

 

[RanDIZ]

It will depend on how many points revert to Disney in 2042... but I do suspect they won't hit major changes until 2057.



The original construction was not meant to stand for nearly 100 years. Might not need an entire tear down, but expect major renovations.



Correct. You can already see they have pulled back from investing in Boardwalk --- look at the slide where they replaced the clown with stickers.
Yes, they did major construction for Cake Bake Shop, but that's actually on the outer edge of the property. They can tear down everything except the Cake Bake Shop.

Yes, it would be multi-year. Which is why it make sense to have another DVC property in the Epcot area ready to go, BEFORE 2042.



Again, at a minimum -- Massive gutting type renovation. Beach Club Villas is a perfect example of a property not built up to the standards of current expectations. It's popular because of location and Stormalong Bay. But imagine how popular it would be if the rooms were the same quality as Riveria, Grand Floridian or Poly.
I actually expect a full tear down, as it's prime real estate for a tower, that could sell a whole lot more units and points.



Conversations are all about balancing inventory with supply and demand. Last conversion was Grand Floridian -- A poorly kept secret is that Grand Floridian couldn't book up their rooms. They were offering big "secret" discounts on priceline. So the conversion was all about pre-selling those rooms that they had trouble booking, and reducing the supply of regular rooms to better meet demand. (They didn't want to openly cut prices to fix the supply/demand issue).

Wilderness Lodge ---> Copper Creek happened for the same reason.

I don't see any more conversions on the horizon, but it's a quick fix if they have an underperforming property.

One possibility I had not considered: Massive renovation/conversion of Boardwalk INN --- Sell it as a DVC properly in the 2030's...
Then in 2042, tear down Boardwalk Villas --- and can replace it with DVC and/or regular hotel.

I wonder if rolling BRV into CCV in 2042 is a possibility?

 

[zavandor]

I wonder if rolling BRV into CCV in 2042 is a possibility?

They didn't add CCV to BRV when it came out, so it's unlikely they'd do the opposite. Maybe they're concerned to have too many resorts to sell at the same time, but right now they have AUL, RIV, PIT, VDH and CFW and they're already building LL, the number of resorts for sale at the same time doesn't look like a problem anymore.

 

[Brian Noble]

I think there is zero chance that any of the other ground leases are extended the way OKW was---whether there is another association to combine it with or not.

 

[zavandor]

I think there is zero chance that any of the other ground leases are extended the way OKW was---whether there is another association to combine it with or not.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to align expiration on BRV and CCV, to be able at some point to resell them together. Which played a part in rolling PIT in the same association. But they cannot make a new association with less than 40 years and an extension is unlikely, so I think they're destined to travel in parallel.

 

[Brian Noble]

Even if they could, it's unlikely that they would make one or the other as short as it would need to be to line them up. They are almost perfectly out of sync.

 

[Mikey15]

Even if they could, it's unlikely that they would make one or the other as short as it would need to be to line them up. They are almost perfectly out of sync.

And being separate buildings it probably makes a pile of sense to keep it that way. They can hard refurb or majorly rebuild (2042/2068) one without touching the other.

 

[sachilles]

It is amazing how little info is out there for this current version of the project.
Really, all I'm hoping for is another option for waterfront dining. I love Geyser point. The new restaurant with outdoor seating at the poly tower seems like another win. Another option at this new place with some lake/fireworks views would be great.

 

[mrsap]

Saw this aerial photo of LL shared on DVC Fan’s FB…

 

[mrsap]

Disney Lakeshore Lodge Structures Connected During Ongoing Construction​

 

[mrsap]

Disney Lakeshore Lodge Pool Plans Revealed: Lazy River, Splash Pad, and More​

Disney is planning an expansive pool area at the upcoming Lakeshore Lodge, offering a mix of relaxation and family-friendly water activities.

According to WDWMAGIC sources familiar with the plans, the Disney Vacation Club Resort hotel is expected to feature both a main feature pool and a leisure pool, with the feature pool set to be a standout attraction offering a range of experiences.

The standout addition to the resort's pool complex will be a lazy river, making Lakeshore Lodge only the second Walt Disney World hotel to offer one, following the Yacht & Beach Club. The feature pool will also include a zero-entry design for easy access, water slides, and a splash pad for the children's play area. Positioned near the lake and nestled behind the main hotel building, the pool area is expected to offer scenic waterfront views.

Disney has not yet officially confirmed the full details of the pool complex, but with construction moving forward, more information is expected in the coming months.

 

[MagicDVC]

Disney Lakeshore Lodge Pool Plans Revealed: Lazy River, Splash Pad, and More​

Disney is planning an expansive pool area at the upcoming Lakeshore Lodge, offering a mix of relaxation and family-friendly water activities.

According to WDWMAGIC sources familiar with the plans, the Disney Vacation Club Resort hotel is expected to feature both a main feature pool and a leisure pool, with the feature pool set to be a standout attraction offering a range of experiences.

The standout addition to the resort's pool complex will be a lazy river, making Lakeshore Lodge only the second Walt Disney World hotel to offer one, following the Yacht & Beach Club. The feature pool will also include a zero-entry design for easy access, water slides, and a splash pad for the children's play area. Positioned near the lake and nestled behind the main hotel building, the pool area is expected to offer scenic waterfront views.

Disney has not yet officially confirmed the full details of the pool complex, but with construction moving forward, more information is expected in the coming months.

Now, a lazy river might sway us to get points there. We were interested when it was Reflections.

 

[pkrieger2287]

Anyone know how we can get our hands on some of those plans?

 

[davidhr]

My wallet is so ready…

 

[Girlstar30]

https://dvcnews.com/resorts/reflect...-expansive-pool-lazy-river-of-its-predecessor

I was convinced I wouldn't care much for this resort and now I find out lazy river coming