Disability Line Complaints

[pudge the fish]

I have Lupus also as well as Fibromyalgia and severe Vertigo. None of these disabilities are visual. When I am walking down the street and I am stumble because of my Vertigo, I know people who do not know of my Vertigo believe I have been drinking. It is hard to be judged based on outward appearances, but I have tried very hard not to let it get me down. QUOTE]



I have SO BEEN THERE- I have had a low sugar episode and passed out at Epcot- People around kept saying , Ooh She's drunk cause we saw her weave and stumble before she passsed out. A WONDERFUL CM who ran to help my hubby, told everyone to back off I was a diabetic
anyway it has happened a couple times - some days at Disney I am good and others days my sugar can drop in what seems to be 2 seconds

I also trip over my own two feet and stumble up stairs, curbs and fall down steps and even trip while walking down Main street- Tripped today while at DTD over my own foot and skinned my knee. Hubby comes prepared with meds and bandaids My feet and knees don't always communicate with my brain

First Aid and I are best friends over skinned knees
I never think about what others may think it's MY times at Disney- some people have a problem with life and take it out on everyone.

I have heard a few comments at night while being "led" to the exit- (I can't see much at night unless I am on top of bumping into someone)and I have heard, Are you blind ? my comeback is "Nope , not yet but probably one day very soon" That shuts them up
Still working on a Tshirt with Mickey wearing shades & a cane- still thinking of snappy line for it.

 

[mechurchlady]

Well, Laurie and Ntsammy5 got me to break my silence, if for one post! And how is that for three people with some very diverse backgrounds, but still having some very similar opinions on some topics? I really enjoyed 'meeting' people different from me here over the years, but I did need to take a break from the negativity.

I am going to my beloved DLRP this week, where things are sadly not quite so accessible, but where there doesn't seem to be the suspicion of those with certain needs. I have said over and over here that if people only tried to use an assistive device (whether a cane, sling, ECV or any other device) for a few hours, they would realise that the frustration of using those devices far outweighs any perceived benefits.

I also find an irony that there are many posters who rarely discuss their own situations, but are always ready to provide advice and assistance to others. I asked one of my buddies recently here offline if he realised that one of the posters on this thread (who is also prolific on the Transportation Board) if she had certain physical challenges. Although he had posted alongside her for years, he had no idea of her challenges because she simply didn't bring them up if they were not relevant.

Going back to the original question, there seems to be such diversity in posts here. So many seem to think that people using assistive devices are 'faking' or getting 'special benefits'. Those of you who post here know that isn't true, or at least for the vast majority of people. I refuse to believe that people are inherently so devious and selfish that they would fake injuries and go through the hassles to have those lovely 'perks' of waiting in line far longer than the regular lines.

We have threads from people who have a minor or temporary injury, who want those 'special priveleges'. When we point out that they may not be so special, or that they may in fact be able to enjoy their trip even with an injury, they seem to be offended that we don't understand.

Then we have the posters who seem to have that very special ability to diagnose and prescribe treatment for random strangers from afar. I am quite sure that you know those threads.

These things really sadden me. I don't think those posters realise how blessed they are not to have anyone in their family who has any special needs. Instead of looking at how much they have, they look at others and are jealous of what they perceive that they have. I don't wish ill on anyone but one day those people will come to realise how wrong they were to post such cruel, judgemental things here.

I joke about being the 'dirty foreigner'. I can handle myself when it comes to the xenophobic posts. But I am defeated by the ones spewing such negativity to those people who deserve compassion and consideration.

So, in honour of my buddies who have already posted on this thread I will enjoy a nice day tomorrow at a Disney park where people don't think the worst of each other, and will think of you. I have been on a break for several weeks now, but I do hope to find the energy and positive thoughts to come back and fight the battle (or be banned trying! )

Wishing you all good thoughts and good health - I have a lot of respect for many of you here.

It is a week and no word from Bavaria, gone and not forgotten.

 

[SueM in MN]

It is a week and no word from Bavaria, gone and not forgotten.

 

[MamaMo]

My disabilities are very hidden. I never knew about the GAC before reading these posts.

I do have a problem with people who have a large party and are in either in wheelchair or an ecv and the entire party loads the bus in entirety. My vertigo is so severe that if I stand for too long a period in one place, I lose my balance and I will fall to the ground.

We were standing in line for a bus to the Magic Kingdom and party came to the bus at the last minute. There was over 20 people with the individual in the wheelchair all the people were allowed to board with this person. With our position in line, that meant I did not get a seat and had to stand. My DH told several people about my disability and as well the driver and even ask people in the original that boarded and no one gave up their seats. I had to stand and I ended making the decision to sit on the floor of the bus before falling over. The bus driver saw what had happened and he was concerned so were other passengers, but the original party that got on did not seem to care and they were pushing trying to get off first and not wait for their wheelchair bound member. I think is why people get annoyed at people in wheelchairs/ecv's.

They get even more annoyed if they see if they are large. People naturely assume these people are lazy. I told my DH need not be angry at the person in the chair we should be angry at the people who do not know what is like to walk in our shoes.

 

[bouncycat]

My disabilities are very hidden. I never knew about the GAC before reading these posts.

I do have a problem with people who have a large party and are in either in wheelchair or an ecv and the entire party loads the bus in entirety. My vertigo is so severe that if I stand for too long a period in one place, I lose my balance and I will fall to the ground.

We were standing in line for a bus to the Magic Kingdom and party came to the bus at the last minute. There was over 20 people with the individual in the wheelchair all the people were allowed to board with this person. With our position in line, that meant I did not get a seat and had to stand. My DH told several people about my disability and as well the driver and even ask people in the original that boarded and no one gave up their seats. I had to stand and I ended making the decision to sit on the floor of the bus before falling over. The bus driver saw what had happened and he was concerned so were other passengers, but the original party that got on did not seem to care and they were pushing trying to get off first and not wait for their wheelchair bound member. I think is why people get annoyed at people in wheelchairs/ecv's.

They get even more annoyed if they see if they are large. People naturely assume these people are lazy. I told my DH need not be angry at the person in the chair we should be angry at the people who do not know what is like to walk in our shoes.

AMEN!!! Tell people to walk in our shoes for a day, and that may calm them down some. I don't look down at people in ECV's, because one day soon I will need one. My disability is hidden too, I have a rare type of Muscular Dystrophy, I can walk, but it gets hard after being on my feet all day. I don't use a chair yet, but will very soon. So, I know how you feel, and it's hard having a hidden disability, but just don't let people get to you, and you'll be fine. People will be rude, and people will be great, it's a crapshoot!!

 

[MamaMo]

I have disability parking placard. I don't use it all the time. I use it when I am having a bad day and it is needed. Well, yesterday I was having a bad day and I had to use it. All the stares I got because I look like an able bodied person.

I did not know about a GAC last year, but I told a CM at the stunt show that I had Vertigo and without hesitation they placed my family in a row where I didn't have to climb stairs and risk getting very dizzy. This saved my DH from worrying about me and he
could relax and enjoy the show.

That is why I love Disney so much!

 

[ireland_nicole]

hey mamamo; yes, next trip get a gac for no stairs; that way it should take that dizziness "trigger" out of the equation, and make you a lot safer. My DH and I have found that by driving and parking in h/c parking, it's a lot easier. Esp. at Epcot and DHS, the h/c is no further than the busses, at AK minimally further. At MK- o.k., a lot further as you're at the TTC and the parking there is awful, but you could park at the end of a regular row and then pick up the tram. Still might be easier to take the bus to MK though. I just mention it because then you don't have to worry about standing waiting for the busses, or God forbid, standing on them while moving (I can't imagine how awful that must have been for you with your condition.) We use our car b/c of kiddos w/ autism (much easier then the bus line with a kid melting down.) and because of my autoimmune problems, I have an ECV and a h/c tag. I hadn't realized how much freer we felt with our car.

 

[mechurchlady]

Bavaria is oon hiatus and will back but I miss him so much and it is the people ho demand that they are right now matter what. I seen some of the people who have been attacking him and others.

I gave up on this board after attacks on my knowledge and now I see people hunting down mistakes and nitpicking on the boards.

The worst things in parks and on boards is that people attack a label instead of the root cause which is stupidity, arrogance, impatience, lack of manners, poor parenting, illness, greed, coveteousness, etc not the label. The person will take advantage of the system even if they are not gay, fat, skinny, hispanic, or muslim. Slap a label and show that that group is bad. It is like the race card in reverse. Instead of someone handing a card with a label then saying they were dissed or denied something because of the labeled card is use against them. You are rude because you are XXX label.

I just get comfty here and have my bags packed again because of judgemental people. I miss bavaria. He will be back eventually, hopefully, maybe.

 

[Puget Peach]

The worst things in parks and on boards is that people attack a label instead of the root cause which is stupidity, arrogance, impatience, lack of manners, poor parenting, illness, greed, coveteousness, etc not the label.

My SO uses a power chair due to an ankle injury. He is in excellent physical shape otherwise. Talk about the looks! He loves to do coasters, so we ocassionally visit Universal's Islands of Adventure and Busch Gardens. The non Disney employees are so poorly trained, we frequently felt unsafe while loading and off loading. More than a few times we would be in a line for over an hour only to find a barrier where we had to turn around to get out of the line and no employees in sight. We visit Disney again and again because the most poorly trained CM is superior to those elsewhere IMO. We never have to try to figure out how to cue on a Disney attraction. We have had issues at Pirates of the Carribean off load, but the ride manager was called promptly and treated us with the utmost respect. If a few ignorant and/or self centered people "fake" a disability to get some sort of minimal or perceived advantage, perhaps their disability IS their ignorance? But I am also aware that all sorts of conditions can affect a person's behavior, so I would be very slow to attribute seeming rudeness or inappropriate behavior as only ignorance or self centeredness. No one, and I mean no one, can take away the pixie dust from my trips to visit Mickey. I just sprinkle some pixie dust in their direction and hope that some of it sticks.

 

[Notatourist]

Pudget-

Have you mentioned anything about your feelings of loading and unloading at these non-Disney parks?

These people do take a huge number of classes to better handle these kinds of loading procedures, so, any sort of comments both positive and negative do help them improve which in the long run can help you feel better there.

Just a thought....

 

[Disneyadore]

But asking for "proof" would have the opposite effect. If someone was faking or exagerating something they would have no problem faking a Dr's note. It would have no effect at all on them, as you say these people are "creative".

If I were required to have a Dr's note to vacation at Disney. I would look at the cost of a Dr's visit, taking the time off work, and of course bothering my Specialist with "just a vacation" when we're still actively twekaing my medications and therapy. And after adding all that up I simply wouldn't go. Nevermind all the people that only find out they need accommodation after they started their trip.

And what about international guests, are the people going to be trained medical professionals and also linguists, so that they can accomodate the guests whose Dr's write only in French or Korean?

But you would still have untrained CM's like in the post you referenced, and plenty of fakers. Such a policy would only hurt those with legitimate needs.

Disney Resort Paris ask for a letter from your Dr.

No letter no "Carte Bleu "
and I think that's a good solution.

As for myself I have an in English written letter from my oncologist for any emergency if I'm in the States.

I don't know if I need a GAC. First I will try to manage without but if necessary I will get one.
Its almost impossible that a doctor is not capable to write a letter in English.
Its the universal language of the whole worlds and those people made it true university so if they cant write a letter in English how can they got a diploma at any school?

The freedom of this system in the US is gone past the lines of what is appropriately.
It's free for any one who likes to abuse the system. People do abuse and cheat and those who really need this pay the bill for them.
O and yes you may call me a dirty foreigner ore Euro thrash

 

[ireland_nicole]

I think one of the issues between DLP and WDW is due to the difference in disability law. Here in the US there are very specific laws in place under the ADA. Disney's policies relating to the GAC are in keeping with those laws. And pp's are right. If someone would lie about a disability, there's nothing to keep them from forging a Dr.s note. Because the laws in European countries differ, so do expectations.

 

[goofieslonglostsis]

Disney Resort Paris ask for a letter from your Dr.

No letter no "Carte Bleu "
and I think that's a good solution.

As for myself I have an in English written letter from my oncologist for any emergency if I'm in the States.

I don't know if I need a GAC. First I will try to manage without but if necessary I will get one.
Its almost impossible that a doctor is not capable to write a letter in English.
Its the universal language of the whole worlds and those people made it true university so if they cant write a letter in English how can they got a diploma at any school?

A docs note is one of the options, it's not the only option nor is it set in stone. For instance, another option is to have a European disability parking card at hand.

Also, don't judge a book on it's cover is something most of us almost scream out on these board. Can't write is a bit of making a mountain out of a mole hill, but there is more than simply having the knowledge to write and mechanical skills. A doc has a lot more to do than spend time on writing all kinds of notes. Heck, my GP spends hours a year writing notes for me. You do not want to know all of the things in life that require a note overhere. That's just one (1) patient. If I remember correctly, a GP tends to have a ratio of 1 GP per 5.000 patients. That are a lot of notes to be written. Not only do I think a doc can spend their time a lot more valuble, but to be honest? I'm a bit ticked off if I need to bring a docs note whenever I want to venture out and get myself not preverential treatment, but equal treatment and acces. It will basically mean being at a docs mercy to be able to do every day types of recreation. Things that so called AB's can do without even asking their parent, wife or husband for a permission slip.


About weight and sitting on our bums; it tends not to be a very loved opinion, but I don't agree with the 'I can not walk, therefor I can not loose any weight'. Lossing weight is math, in the end. If you burn more than you consume; you loose. Sitting on our bums makes us burn a lot less. It took me quite some time to get to that The burning is less, therefor the consumption can never be the same as somebody that's not even exercising, but simply walking around. It takes longer, as you can not increase the burning (as much) but for me it is not a fact set in stone that it can simply not be done, period. That being said, I want to make it clear that I do not (wish to) blame anyone or look down or whatever. Only stating my opinion and experience. It doesn't have to be a dark black whole that will be for ever unreachable just because of the fact you happen to sit down. For those trying or willing to try; keep that in mind! Don't expect results as quickly as you could get when walking around, but also don't hold yourself to a standard that you will fail only because you are sitting down.

 

[Disneyadore]

A doc has a lot more to do than spend time on writing all kinds of notes. Heck, my GP spends hours a year writing notes for me. You do not want to know all of the things in life that require a note overhere. That's just one (1) patient. If I remember correctly, a GP tends to have a ratio of 1 GP per 5.000 patients. That are a lot of notes to be written. Not only do I think a doc can spend their time a lot more valuble, but to be honest?[ I'm a bit ticked off if I need to bring a docs note whenever I want to venture out and get myself not preverential treatment, but equal treatment and acces. It will basically mean being at a docs mercy to be able to do every day types of recreation. Things that so called AB's can do without even asking their parent, wife or husband for a permission slip.

Well I see the culture difference between us and I don't mean any disrespect in that.

But...... the school my children attend asks for proof if they are absent either from our doc in case of sickness ore for a funeral ore marriage ore what so ever. On the other hand the control is very strict and if a child is not present at school at nine o clock you get a call.

So a note is in our view a normal daily thing.

And as for the GP is being to busy well that's his job. He is there for all the patients needs and he has a serving job which we payed for.
We don't put them on a pedestal any more. I'm a paying costumer.
Again cultural difference

As for being ticked of for bringing a note. Well in my humble opinion it would be far more comforting if people knew that those who get a GAC ore any other perk are really those who deserve them.

Again you hardly see people in DLRP with a "Carte Bleu" thanks to the very strict policy they have.
Those who have them do need them and deserve them.

As I see it the so called freedom of the ADA law put the ones who need this law in the corner of cheaters in the eyes of Jonh Public just because of the freedom. EVERYONE is entitled to use it whiteout questions asked if your need ore not.

Again no disrespect but cultural difference and looking from another angel at this "problem".

 

[goofieslonglostsis]

Well I see the culture difference between us and I don't mean any disrespect in that.

No disrespect felt, just expressing my opinion. As stated, I do feel it's very patronising to need a note to be able to do something that any other so called 'AB' can do without a note.

But...... the school my children attend asks for proof if they are absent either from our doc in case of sickness ore for a funeral ore marriage ore what so ever. On the other hand the control is very strict and if a child is not present at school at nine o clock you get a call.

I live in a small community, so no notes needed. Social controle is high enough for someone to spill the beans if a kid isn't really sick. Besides that point; this comes from a basis of equality. So called 'AB' or not; same treatment when skipping any classes.

So a note is in our view a normal daily thing.

For me it also it, but I do think it should be restricted to things that would mean getting an 'extra' or 'perk'. For instance, I'm fine with handing in all of my papers (and believe me, I do a lot), to get my disability pay, to get a co-payment to get upto an income on social pay level, to get my disability parking placard, to get my wheelchair, to get my bag of money to sort out my medical staff, well you get the picture.

And as for the GP is being to busy well that's his job. He is there for all the patients needs and he has a serving job which we payed for.
We don't put them on a pedestal any more. I'm a paying costumer.
Again cultural difference

No pedestal here either. However, I do think there is a HUGE cultural difference when talking about a GP. Our country is one of the very few in our western economy where a GP has such a heavy case load. Where a GP is an extra option in most countries (which you can bypass at will and or whim) for our system it's the basis of which all is built. A GP also has a bigger function than just fixing up a medical problem when it occurs. They keep an eye out on all of their patients for any psychosocial problems, relational problems, problems with raising kids, everything and anything that can go wrong or become difficult in a persons life. For instance; my GP will randomly visit patients of his practice whenever they get older, lonely or are at risk for medical problems. They didn't call to ask for this, he initiates.

Totally besides that anyhow, I do think it is time very poorly spend when my GP spends another hour on writing notes for me (read; his assistant writing it, him reading it and signing) when he could spend it doing true medical and psychosocial stuff.

As for being ticked of for bringing a note. Well in my humble opinion it would be far more comforting if people knew that those who get a GAC ore any other perk are really those who deserve them.

To be honest? Scr*w those people! I'm not the most loved person when discussing some parts of the ADA or stuff that can be arranged in the US in regards to disabilities, as I do think some lack boundaries. But because of opinions of others doing something or not? Humbug! Really, everything I do or don't do gets checked by the appropriate gouvernment. I get no so called 'perk' what so ever without somebody behind a desk having to approve it. And guess what? There are more than enough people out there that feel they've been done wrong by because of the fact that I do get to use certain systems we've put in place for those with a disability. People will feel done wrong as soon as somebody else gets something different to provide equality, never mind how one got to the point of getting that treatment.

Again you hardly see people in DLRP with a "Carte Bleu" thanks to the very strict policy they have.
Those who have them do need them and deserve them.

I'm probably getting myself in too much trouble, but oh well. I'm pretty sure this has a lot to do with the European mentality of things. Those of us with a disability are used to every day life with a lower standard of accessibility than our friends in the US are. This will translate in more people somehow finding their way to do DLRP without a Carte Blue and/or simply so used to not perfect accessibility they're happy enough with the basic state at DLRP. Heck, if people are even aware it exists.

There's also a very different point of view as to what a disability is, what is own responsibility and what is a need that needs to be addressed by a 'third party'. For me, it's most noticable when discussing alternate lines/waiting areas. It is very uncommon for me to run into any parent with a child with an autistic disorder that will state they require an alternate waiting area. Most will believe that their child will have to deal with that in daily life, so also when in line for a ride. A very different thing than what I'm reading on the DIS for the US. Or let's keep it a lot closer to home; myself. My disorder has a nasty side-effect that even a small unintentional bumping into me has a high risk of me ending up at an ER. I hardly ever hear anybody with this disorder about requiring alternate waiting area because of this, incl. myself. It's my daily life, as soon as I get out of the house there is the risk. I'm aware, I'm responsible for watching out for my safety. Yet, some of my US collegues at international boards have spoken up about feeling they do require alternate waiting areas because of this. I'm not saying one is 'better' than the other or not, but there also is a huge cultural difference playing a role in this subject.

As I see it the so called freedom of the ADA law put the ones who need this law in the corner of cheaters in the eyes of Jonh Public just because of the freedom. EVERYONE is entitled to use it whiteout questions asked if your need ore not.

Again no disrespect but cultural difference and looking from another angel at this "problem".

Again; no disrespect felt. I can agree with you that the ADA has loopholes, and I'm not a great fan of that either. However, I do not see where needing notes for getting equal treatment is something to advocate. For me the difference lies between equality (which might come in a different form) and getting something extra out of it.

 

[Disneyadore]

No disrespect felt, just expressing my opinion. As stated, I do feel it's very patronising to need a note to be able to do something that any other so called 'AB' can do without a note.



I live in a small community, so no notes needed. Social controle is high enough for someone to spill the beans if a kid isn't really sick. Besides that point; this comes from a basis of equality. So called 'AB' or not; same treatment when skipping any classes.



For me it also it, but I do think it should be restricted to things that would mean getting an 'extra' or 'perk'. For instance, I'm fine with handing in all of my papers (and believe me, I do a lot), to get my disability pay, to get a co-payment to get upto an income on social pay level, to get my disability parking placard, to get my wheelchair, to get my bag of money to sort out my medical staff, well you get the picture.



No pedestal here either. However, I do think there is a HUGE cultural difference when talking about a GP. Our country is one of the very few in our western economy where a GP has such a heavy case load. Where a GP is an extra option in most countries (which you can bypass at will and or whim) for our system it's the basis of which all is built. A GP also has a bigger function than just fixing up a medical problem when it occurs. They keep an eye out on all of their patients for any psychosocial problems, relational problems, problems with raising kids, everything and anything that can go wrong or become difficult in a persons life. For instance; my GP will randomly visit patients of his practice whenever they get older, lonely or are at risk for medical problems. They didn't call to ask for this, he initiates.

Totally besides that anyhow, I do think it is time very poorly spend when my GP spends another hour on writing notes for me (read; his assistant writing it, him reading it and signing) when he could spend it doing true medical and psychosocial stuff.



To be honest? Scr*w those people! I'm not the most loved person when discussing some parts of the ADA or stuff that can be arranged in the US in regards to disabilities, as I do think some lack boundaries. But because of opinions of others doing something or not? Humbug! Really, everything I do or don't do gets checked by the appropriate gouvernment. I get no so called 'perk' what so ever without somebody behind a desk having to approve it. And guess what? There are more than enough people out there that feel they've been done wrong by because of the fact that I do get to use certain systems we've put in place for those with a disability. People will feel done wrong as soon as somebody else gets something different to provide equality, never mind how one got to the point of getting that treatment.



I'm probably getting myself in too much trouble, but oh well. I'm pretty sure this has a lot to do with the European mentality of things. Those of us with a disability are used to every day life with a lower standard of accessibility than our friends in the US are. This will translate in more people somehow finding their way to do DLRP without a Carte Blue and/or simply so used to not perfect accessibility they're happy enough with the basic state at DLRP. Heck, if people are even aware it exists.

There's also a very different point of view as to what a disability is, what is own responsibility and what is a need that needs to be addressed by a 'third party'. For me, it's most noticable when discussing alternate lines/waiting areas. It is very uncommon for me to run into any parent with a child with an autistic disorder that will state they require an alternate waiting area. Most will believe that their child will have to deal with that in daily life, so also when in line for a ride. A very different thing than what I'm reading on the DIS for the US. Or let's keep it a lot closer to home; myself. My disorder has a nasty side-effect that even a small unintentional bumping into me has a high risk of me ending up at an ER. I hardly ever hear anybody with this disorder about requiring alternate waiting area because of this, incl. myself. It's my daily life, as soon as I get out of the house there is the risk. I'm aware, I'm responsible for watching out for my safety. Yet, some of my US collegues at international boards have spoken up about feeling they do require alternate waiting areas because of this. I'm not saying one is 'better' than the other or not, but there also is a huge cultural difference playing a role in this subject.



Again; no disrespect felt. I can agree with you that the ADA has loopholes, and I'm not a great fan of that either. However, I do not see where needing notes for getting equal treatment is something to advocate. For me the difference lies between equality (which might come in a different form) and getting something extra out of it.

Well we agree on the most important things and that is good no matter how far we live apart.
Even oceans can't divide equal minds.

 

[goofieslonglostsis]

True. Now if we (read; our gouvernment) would only learn from each other strengths. Ah well, guess I'ld better be hoping for ever being able to sleep in Cindy's castle, that's a better chance.

 

[Disneyadore]

True. Now if we (read; our gouvernment) would only learn from each other strengths. Ah well, guess I'ld better be hoping for ever being able to sleep in Cindy's castle, that's a better chance.

Oh yes that would be wonderful and I will help you in hoping all our wishes will come a reality one fine and bright day.

 

[Windjammermay]

goofieslonglostsis, I can agree with much of what you are saying. My disability is physical, I use an electric chair, catheter, oxygen, ect.

The ADA does not help with a lot of accessible situations. Like I can not go to many of the stores, resturants, monuments and bathrooms or the court house, many of the government buildings in Plymouth, Ma, because there are steps or the doors are too narrow. They have hp bathrooms stalls but the entrance to the bathroom is too narrow, you can't get in. Many of the HP parking is used by people with NO plate or plaquet and are not ticketed or called on it. The ADA is no good for people with physical disabilities. Para transits is ok but public buses lifts don't work 9 times out of 10. So the only way to get around is by your chair and a heck of an attidute. I can not afford a wheel chair van with what the government gives. Even the ambulance service won't pick me up becuase of the chair. I road my chair to the hospital a 5.3 mile ride while haveing a heart attack because ambulance refused transport. A good thing is that the cops can not arrest me because they can not transport me,lol.

There are different types of disabilities. The government can not catogorise use becuase of the long list of different disabities. Even on some of the crip and gimp boards there are feelings of seperation of disabilities.

I put up with motorists that don't see me, been hit 3 times. AB's that are nasty and just plane mean. I have had kids drive by and throw eggs at me and beer bottles, yell all kinds of very very bad things at me. AB's that will step in front of me in a long line. I could go on.

BUT at Disney, it is all Magical, it is the only place in the world that is so awesome of a place to be if you are a crip. It is kind of like a touch of heaven. ON the crip boards everyone want to go just to feel like a person for even just a day and it is ok to be in a broken down sick body that you don't even want. But for just one Magical moment..... you can fly.....

 

[jewelergirl]

Just a quick bit of input- FAT does not necessarily = lazy. There are many reasons for becoming overweight and you may never know a persons story. My best freind was totally normal weight-=got a connective tissue disease and gained about 60 lbs in 2 months, mor ein the next 6 months. Not her fault, and cannot change it- she's lucky to still be here at all. People who are on prednisone gain wirght dramatically, often to save their lives. Others have other issues. I , myself am no skinny Minny, but I pull my own "weight" . This lady was obviously nasty and rude, which is independant of her weight issue- you don't need to reciprocate her vile attitude here.

This is a friendly place- check the negativity please.