Dis Breast Cancer Survivors Part II -GAGWTA!

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Hey there jackskellingtonsgirl, so we meet again. ;) I'm sorry to hear about your mother. I'll try to help you get a sense of what to expect even though there's not a lot of information to go on just yet.

Many women who have "larger" tumors (usually > 3cm) have chemo first in order to shrink the tumor. How many doses and what type of chemotherapeutic agents depend on unique features of the cancer, such as whether it's gone into the lymph nodes, whether or not it's driven by hormones, Her2Neu status, etc. Chemo is designed to kill any stray cells which may have gotten away from the original site and want to harbor and grow elsewhere in the body. Radiation kills local cancer cells around the breast and lymph nodes after surgery. One thing about BC is that every case is very unique and her plan of care will be driven by these unique features.

Chemo will more than likely take a toll on her physically. She will likely be very fatigued, run down and prone to infection and other issues. She will lose her hair. She may have to have a port placed for chemo. She will have to go for many doctors appointments for tests, staging, chemo, etc. And having BC is an emotional roller coaster. A lot of strong emotions come up, and being a single parent I'm sure your mother will have lots of thoughts about your sister, including who will care for her if she cannot. Reassurance about that might help your mother feel better if you think that's something you can commit to. (If not, maybe you can help her work out a plan so she doesn't have to fret over it.) She should also have a plan in place for where your sister will stay if/when your mother has to be hospitalized (planned and unplanned) - probably your aunt would be helpful with that so your sister can keep school and such as close to normal as possible.

Women diagnosed with BC who have children tend to worry most about the children; sometimes even more so than themselves. I know it's a subject we've all talked about here before. She will need support emotionally and possibly some help with things around the house, with meals, rides, etc. I assume she's working which can present some challenges too. She may feel the need to "get her affairs in order" if she hasn't already, especially where your father is deceased.

There's a good website you can peruse which can give you a sense of what to expect www.breastcancer.org. One warning - reading stuff about BC can be downright frightening, so don't overdo it. If you google WCVB TV in Boston there is a reporter there, Kelly Tuthill, who chronicled her story of having BC last year if you're interested in reading someone's experiences.

As for yourself, let your doc know in order to update your history. You said you're getting mamms so that's good; make sure you do your self exams monthly (about 5 days after your period ends) too. Down the road there could be some talk about gene testing, but that would be a ways away.

The good news about BC is that more women are surviving it than ever before. It's terrifying at first because naturally, you think you're going to die. And for some, unfortunately, it is a possibility. But the survival rates are pretty good now and there's lots of reasons to be very hopeful that she'll be ok. FWIW, I go out with a group of women I met through a friend and all of them had tumors > 3cm and all of them are doing just fine, and it's been about 4-5 years for them. :thumbsup2

Glad you came by. I'm sure you'll hear from others. Let us know what else you need. :hug: Tell oogieboogieman I said hello.
 
Well said! Chemo is a drag but if it gives me a chance to see my nine year old grow up then hook me up! I am headed today for my fifth chemo...only 21 more days till my LAST chemo! YEA!

Then the decision to do radiation. I am in the gray area. We'll see, most likely will do it.

Hang in there Jackskellingtonsgirl...your mom caught the cancer and is going to get the best treatment for her. When I was diagnosed they had been "missing" my tumors by mammogram due to dense breasts. So both my sister and mother (also blessed with large breasts) were both MRI'd to make sure nothing was going on for them. The MRI is much better at catching small tumors, calcifications, etc. If you want more peace of mind for yourself then they usually approve the MRI for first degree family relatives. I also had the BRACA genetic test which thankfully came out negative for me. I was thrilled for my daughter. The reality is that she stands a greater chance of having breast cancer because I do...so when she actually has breasts :goodvibes we will be diligent and pro-active.

Well, gotta get ready for chemo!:scared1: :worship: :thumbsup2
 
Thanks for the info! I'm sure I will be around as I learn more about what's going on.

A little more background:
My mom NEVER goes to the Dr. Her stance has always been she would rather die from something undiagnosed than know that she had an illness. Last month she announced that she has scheduled a colonoscopy, a bone density screening, a pelvic ultrasound, and a mammogram. I was boggled. Then she kept all of those appointments, which boggled me even more.
She claims the skin has been pulling on that side for about 10 years. She thought it was from a muscle she "overused" when she used to start the lawnmower with a pull cord.

If what she says is true then it's possible that the tumor has been there for a very long time. In no way do I think they have caught it early, and that is my biggest worry.

We had a chat about guardianship for my sister when my father died. I am the most obvious choice, but my mom said my sister thinks I am too strict. :rolleyes: We have another sister, but she is only 27 and she has 2 toddlers. She is not going to be able to handle a 16 year old and all of the emotional, legal, financial, and logistical issues that will come with her if something happens to our mom. So there's that.

I need to get DS to school and myself to work. Thank you again for helping me make sense of all of this!

I will pass your greeting along to Oogieboogieman. ;)

Elizabeth
 
Thanks for all the good thoughts, and words of wisdom. My Mom should get to come home late today, right now it all depends on her going "24 hour fever free" The hospital she at is very nice, and the nurses I met yesterday are a riot. Her spirits are up and in some ways she is actually glad to be there. (Now she does not have to worry about the dogs or cat.)


Elizabeth ~ :hug: I too am here because of my Mom. She was diagnosed just a few months ago, had the lumpectomy and started chemo last week.
 

Kirsten, I'm sure if the nurses are a riot, she's been laughing and not dwelling on the downside of things. That'll do a lot for your attitude. Maybe going to the hospital was a good thing, if she can take that home with her?

JSsgirl, one of our favorite sayings is, "Don't bleed until you're shot!" Try not to borrow trouble. Take a few deep breaths and realize that many women survive breast cancer...it's just not a walk in the park. Try not to panic. Tell yourself there'll be time for that later if need be. ;) And just take the info one day at a time. (I know, easier said than done.) The waiting to know and have a plan is the worst part.
 
Thanks for all the good thoughts, and words of wisdom. My Mom should get to come home late today, right now it all depends on her going "24 hour fever free" The hospital she at is very nice, and the nurses I met yesterday are a riot. Her spirits are up and in some ways she is actually glad to be there. (Now she does not have to worry about the dogs or cat.)


Elizabeth ~ :hug: I too am here because of my Mom. She was diagnosed just a few months ago, had the lumpectomy and started chemo last week.

Kirsten, :hug: I hope your mom is able to come home today! It sounds like they are moving along pretty quickly with her treatment.

Kirsten, I'm sure if the nurses are a riot, she's been laughing and not dwelling on the downside of things. That'll do a lot for your attitude. Maybe going to the hospital was a good thing, if she can take that home with her?

JSsgirl, one of our favorite sayings is, "Don't bleed until you're shot!" Try not to borrow trouble. Take a few deep breaths and realize that many women survive breast cancer...it's just not a walk in the park. Try not to panic. Tell yourself there'll be time for that later if need be. ;) And just take the info one day at a time. (I know, easier said than done.) The waiting to know and have a plan is the worst part.

Thanks. :) It is hard to wait. Until she knows exactly what sort of creature this tumor is we don't know much at all. I got tickets to go up there next weekend with DS. I don't have any vacation time left, but my boss said I can take off next Friday. She will know at least a little bit more by then, and hopefully DS can spend a little time with her. My cousin said my aunt offered to go to the oncologist with my mom and my mom said no. We are going to keep pushing it, because I don't think the first oncology visit is an "alone" sort of endeavor.
 
Some people really prefer to go to the doctor alone. I'm not one of those. I want someone else to help me hear and interpret what the doctor said. I also needed someone to help me remember. It was too much information - too fast, for me. Especially when I was upset about the diagnosis. At the very least, your mom should write down questions and take them with her to the visit. Things tend to fly out of your head when you're faced with those early appointments. You might also suggest that she ask for copies of her pathology reports to keep at home. Sometimes it's helpful to be able to look up what they say so you can better understand them.
 
That's a good idea to ask for a copy of the path report.
I just talked with my aunt, and I talked to my mom earlier. Mom said she would think about letting my aunt come with her. I told my mom that I couldn't take time off in the middle of the week or I would have flown up to go to the appt. with her.
I guess I am worried that my mom will try to downplay what they say, or omit portions of it altogether. If someone else is there to hear it she can't pretend they didn't really say whatever they say. She said tonight that she thinks the surgeon who did the biopsy is wrong and she doesn't have cancer at all. That would be fabulous, but I don't think that's how it is going to go. I want to have ALL of the information so I can learn about ALL of the options and outcomes.
 
I am so uncertain about how quickly I will recover from chemo. That is why the whole tomoxifin issue is scaring me. Side effects: bone pain, hair thinning, etc. YIKES! Anyone? I was hoping to end my pain with chemo. :worship:


I've been on Tamoxifen for just about a year now. My periods stopped with the first chemo (at age 44) but the menopause systems came at me full force when I started the tamoxifen. Dryness for sure...there's a product called Astroglide that works wonders for that :thumbsup2 (unfortunately, it doesn't do a darn thing for the lack of libido, though!) My hair is now quite thin on top, never was before chemo, so I guess the tamoxifen is to blame for that too. And the hot flashes....they were really bothersome, until my oncologist prescribed a low dose antidepressent for them. I was doubtful, but it really helped a lot! They are not gone, but much, much less severe. Weight gain too, although I'm not entirely sure the Tamoxifen is solely to blame. :rolleyes1 But on the bright side, I haven't noticed any bone pain! :laughing: Seriously though, I'll take these minor side effects any day as long as the drug does it's job. And even when I consider the more serious (and life threating) side effects, it still seems like the lesser of two evils.

As far a recovering from chemo....seems like it was a good two months before my energy level started to improve much. I was doing radiation right after chemo, so that may have contributed. By six months or so, things were much better. But I'd be willing to bet that the opportunity to recover at WDW will work wonders for you! :wizard:
 
I guess I am worried that my mom will try to downplay what they say, or omit portions of it altogether. If someone else is there to hear it she can't pretend they didn't really say whatever they say. She said tonight that she thinks the surgeon who did the biopsy is wrong and she doesn't have cancer at all. That would be fabulous, but I don't think that's how it is going to go. I want to have ALL of the information so I can learn about ALL of the options and outcomes.

::yes:: Having all the information and learning about all the options will be very helpful to your mom. Hang in there :hug:


I hope everyone had a wonderful Easter. Things were quiet around here....rather relaxing. Now if the weather would just warm up, it might start feeling like Spring. We actually had snow again yesterday. :confused:

I have a follow-up mammogram scheduled for next week. My last one 6 months ago showed what they think are calcifications. This is feeling all too familiar to me. :sad2: I'm seriously thinking about another mastectomy just to head off any future problems in my remaining breast. Not bleeding before I'm shot, just giving it some thought so I can bring it up at my next appt. with the oncologist.

GAGWTA!!! I hope everyone has a great weekend!
 
Cheryl dan, I think it is good to explore all options. I can't give any advice to you but I would consider this as well if calcifications were found in my "other" breast. Calcifications were the signal in my case that I needed a biopsy.

I would like to think that the second go round since we are having diagnostic mammograms and I ASSUME they are looking harder since it is pretty clear on the mammogram form we fill out before the procedure that we had BC, that if you get a second cancer in the other breast it would be caught even earlier.

Trying to see that glass half full.
 
The reason I am torn about hotels is that I am fairly certain that I will be resting a bit more than normal instead of going full force . I loved POP but I am wondering if the walking (to the room, food court, etc) might be too much.

We stayed at POFQ only two weeks after my last rad session, no problemo! 33 rad sessions after a lovely summer of 18 weeks of chemo, and WDW is still the best medicine going! I would strongly suggest POFQ, smaller resort, grass, river runs by, ah.. the memories.:hug: Just take your time - and stop and relax as soon as you need to.

I am so uncertain about how quickly I will recover from chemo. That is why the whole tomoxifin issue is scaring me. Side effects: bone pain, hair thinning, etc. YIKES! Anyone? I was hoping to end my pain with chemo. :worship:

Been on Tam for over a year. No bone pain, no blood clots (and I have chronic dvt) hair thin- well maybe - but in the back and I can't see it.

Getting off Chemo - priceless!
Removing mediport - more priceless!
 
Thanks for all the reassurance about tomoxifin. My oncologist said it is equally as important for me as chemo...so I have no choice. I will GLADLY take it to stay well.

I am definately taking radiation, too. But I won't start until I am back from disney, mid-may. So much, so much. Then the reconstruction. :confused3

I had my fifth chemo on Thursday and am definately feeling the effects.

I am definately in my "darkest" hour of treatment....it still seems so overwhelming...but May 5 I get that PORT OUT! YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~!

Then four days later.....Disney. I will take it slow and easy and just breathe it in. I love that place!:cool1:
 
Hey! Switced AGAIN to the Grand Floridian for my May weekend Chemo ending celebration! Got a wonderful rate, saving some $$ over the Wilderness Lodge concierge. I think we will do that in December instead. I am excited!:cool1:

It will be nice to be right on the monorail since I'll still be a little worn out, I think!
 
Hey! Switced AGAIN to the Grand Floridian for my May weekend Chemo ending celebration! Got a wonderful rate, saving some $$ over the Wilderness Lodge concierge. I think we will do that in December instead. I am excited!:cool1:

It will be nice to be right on the monorail since I'll still be a little worn out, I think!

I am so jealous. I think you are making a very good decision. You can't beat that monorail. You are much more likely to maximize both your rest time and your fun time.

I would love to hear your observations of the GF. It always looks so serene from the monorail. I only visited the resort once around Thanksgiving in 2002 to see the Christmas decorations, which were outstanding.

I believe the convenience of the monorail trumps concierge, especially on a short trip.
 
I am so jealous. I think you are making a very good decision. You can't beat that monorail. You are much more likely to maximize both your rest time and your fun time.

I would love to hear your observations of the GF. It always looks so serene from the monorail. I only visited the resort once around Thanksgiving in 2002 to see the Christmas decorations, which were outstanding.

I believe the convenience of the monorail trumps concierge, especially on a short trip.

We stayed at the GF in the main building a few years ago during the Christmas season. It was breathtaking. I was not that impressed with the concierge service compared to AKL and Poly, but the building and the rooms were lovely. Our balcony overlooked the castle, and on my daughter's birthday we woke up and the castle was lit in purple lights. To this day my daughter thinks Cinderella did that for her. So cute.

This time I booked a standard room in the outer buildings, but I am really excited to stay there. For our next trip in December we'll do the Wilderness Lodge which will be much less than the POLY and especially pretty for the holidays! Got a great passholder rate for the GF~
 
For our next trip in December we'll do the Wilderness Lodge which will be much less than the POLY and especially pretty for the holidays!

What are your dates for WL, Maureen? It would be great if we were there at the same time!:thumbsup2
 
What are your dates for WL, Maureen? It would be great if we were there at the same time!:thumbsup2

We usually do the first weekend in December. I need to make the ressies soon! If not the first week then the second. When are you going? How are you doing??:goodvibes
 
GAGWTA Ladies!:grouphug:

Hope everyone had a nice weekend and that all are doing well.

I am doing ok. I have my appt. at Sloan Kettering on Tuesday morning! I feel like I've been on a mini-vacation but now it's time to "go back to work," so to speak. There have actually been some days where I haven't thought about my BC, but as we welcome in April, I know that all the scary stuff is coming up soon. I DO want to get going already, the waiting has been excruciating, but I am still terrified.

We usually do the first weekend in December. I need to make the ressies soon! If not the first week then the second. When are you going? How are you doing??:goodvibes

We'll be there starting Dec. 7th. This will be the longest trip we've ever taken to WDW. I am looking forward to staying at WL and seeing the holiday decorations. It would be so cool if we were there at the same time!:thumbsup2
 
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