Direct DVC September Sales

Some numbers for Riviera. Using DVCNews total points for Riviera is 6,739,966.
If resort is declared sold out when 97% is sold, it would reach that level when 6,537,767 points are sold.
@wdrl September data shows 5,455,823 points sold.

That left 1,081,944 points to reach 97% (sold out for
this example).

If DVD average 60k points per month (higher than they have averaged in 2026, but below what the resort was averaging prior), it would take 18 months to reach that level. (March 2027)).

I still think it sells faster once the last declaration happens because guides in the past used the “almost sold out” sales pitch in the past after the last declaration happened.

If LSL goes on sale last quarter of 2027, both Riviera and and PVB could slow.
If DVC wants to make sure Riviera is sold out by the time LSL goes on sale, there is a simple time tested solution. Starting in June of 2026 give some massive sale concessions. The question is not if they could sell out Riviera by December of 2026, but do they really care?
 
Cuz the service is there. Other theme parks here charge more for parking and their equivalent of lightning lane than Disney. The APs are wayyy cheaper tho
Exactly. I live about 10 mins away from a different theme park, but we let go of our *cheap annual passes, because the food, the theming and the experience was no where near Disney. All it did was remind me that I WASNT at Disney.. so now I get more happiness from watching YT livestreams when I can't get to the Disney parks; what I'm doing right now.
 

For the record, I like my local Six Flags (neé Cedar Fair) park very much. Cedar Point is great. It's not a Disney park, but it is not trying to be. It's a different thing. And, the setting on Lake Erie is just fabulous. This is an older shot--the park looks quite a bit different now--but gives you an idea.

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My gripe with CP isn’t the rides or the park itself, its the food. At other parks i often find myself paying more for worse quality food than Disney. I saw a post not that long ago where someone paid 15 dollars for a singular chicken wing from Mrs. Keats BBQ. Thats just terrible. The only place I was okay with was the Farmhouse but even then the portions were somewhat small.
 
We stayed at RR in September and my son's friend went to the DVC sales pitch for the 100.00 gift card. I looked at the sales brochure they handed out and it was mostly ( about 8 pages) all Poly IT. 1 page each on RR , Disney Hotel, Aulani, CFW.
 
I saw a post not that long ago where someone paid 15 dollars for a singular chicken wing from Mrs. Keats BBQ.
They were either high or lying (or maybe the server was high and they didn't complain).

CP has upped its food game quite a bit in the past several years, borrowing from the old Busch tray-slide style. Here's a brisket meal from Farmhouse from this season. Menu price is about $22, give or take. That's probably about 1/4 lb of brisket--there is a slice or two hidden in the photo---and I did not walk away hungry. The sprouts were particularly good. (I paid a little less thanks to the season pass discount).

Prior to the trayslides, the food situation was either "use a third party vendor" or "suffer." But, between Farmhouse, Backbeat BBQ, Pavillion, and Crystal Rock, it's not hard to find something decent. Pricing is not what you'd expect On The Outside, but it's better than most captive audience places. It might also help that I'm rarely there for two meals unless I'm spending the night, and that often means ducking out to the Friday's on the beach, or maybe going into town for Chet & Matt's.

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This thread made me look locally for options for summer day trips. I know I eventually have to bring my kids to the local Six Flags and they are running a promo right now, so I am now an annual passholder. Can't pass up that free parking. Also usable at Knott's Berry Farm (never been, but close to VDH and would give a nice compare/contrast with Disneyland).
 
KBF is an interesting hybrid. There are definitely some areas that are more themed, but those are long in the tooth. It's more "retro-charming" than immersive, if that makes sense.

However, do not go to KBF without going to Mrs. Knotts. The chicken dinners are what originally put the place on the map; the park was first built to give people something to do while they waited to be seated! They give off a very Pigeon Forge vibe--volume more than cuisine---but the chicken is very good, and the boysenberry pie is great.

https://www.knotts.com/dining/mrs-knotts-chicken-dinner-restaurant
 
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It seems at some point sales will have to slow down with what’s going on economically. But maybe not, with the new 15 year payment options from DVC? My portfolio is up, but too many question marks exist for me right now with this economy. Is there inflation, or is it just a weird fact that my normally $12.50 Costco coffee bag has increased to $25/bag in the last year? I almost started thinking I should cut back my coffee intake because $25/bag seems wildly expensive. And that is pretty much a heretical thought.
Like you, I feel that economically the country is in a very difficult place. Shut down. Inflation. Who knows what employment rates are this month? A lot of stocks being overvalued--particularly those related to AI. Even if we don't seen a big correction, simple economic uncertainty should be enough to discourage large leisure purchases, such as timeshares. My guess: if there is distress in the market, we'll see it first in resale values and then later with "incentives" (i.e. sales) in direct. DVD is almost always very late to responds to economic pressures. With yearly dues on the horizon, we should see if there's downward price pressure in the next couple of months. I still see a relatively low number of resale contracts on DFL. But among those resorts I watch, I do see most of those contracts sitting there longer before sale. So I see mixed elements--a relatively low number of contracts combined with longer time to sell them. If we start to see higher overall numbers of contracts, I'm guessing that may be the first sign that resale is having trouble.
 
However, do not go to KBF without going to Mrs. Knotts.

https://www.knotts.com/dining/mrs-knotts-chicken-dinner-restaurant

I might add that most of the counter service food options at Knott's are both (a) more expensive than Disney and also (b) worse than Disney. (I think the Knott's model is to have low entry fees through specials, discounts, and cheap annual passes, but then to make the money back elsewhere in the park, including on food.) But Mrs. Knott's is still reasonably good. For me, it's more about the history of the place than the quality of the food--but it's certainly better than most everything inside the park. It's also located just outside the front gate, so you don't need park tickets to eat there. You should get reservations though.
 
Exactly. I live about 10 mins away from a different theme park, but we let go of our *cheap annual passes, because the food, the theming and the experience was no where near Disney. All it did was remind me that I WASNT at Disney.. so now I get more happiness from watching YT livestreams when I can't get to the Disney parks; what I'm doing right now.
The last time I went to a non disney theme park with another Disney fanatic friend she said, "i dont come to other theme parks because all I see are flaws"" 🤣
 
This thread made me look locally for options for summer day trips. I know I eventually have to bring my kids to the local Six Flags and they are running a promo right now, so I am now an annual passholder. Can't pass up that free parking. Also usable at Knott's Berry Farm (never been, but close to VDH and would give a nice compare/contrast with Disneyland).
The food at Knotts Berry farm is superior to Disney imo.

The theme park itself is not. Going during the Boysenberry Festival is really fun for good food tastings and the portions are huge.

There's some cool stores there too, my favorite being the Geode shop. Def worth a visit and the Chicken Dinner Restaurant right outside is really good too if you like fried chicken. They also employ a lot of the DCA live musicians.

They got a Disney higher up to run things now and there's been so much improvement with merchandise, character sightings, shows etc.

I noticed theyre copying Disney with pin trading and Loungefly merchandise. I wish they would do more with their Peanuts licensing, but we enjoy going for Christmas, which has a beautiful ice skating Peanuts show and to the Boysenberry festival every Spring. The annual pass is very cheap too.
 
KBF is an interesting hybrid. There are definitely some areas that are more themed, but those are long in the tooth. It's more "retro-charming" than immersive, if that makes sense.

However, do not go to KBF without going to Mrs. Knotts. The chicken dinners are what originally put the place on the map; the park was first built to give people something to do while they waited to be seated! They give off a very Pigeon Forge vibe--volume more than cuisine---but the chicken is very good, and the boysenberry pie is great.

https://www.knotts.com/dining/mrs-knotts-chicken-dinner-restaurant
I just read this after I posted to go there, I agree the Boysenberry pie is delicious. I liked going there so much when I was younger we had my birthday party there once 🤣 Fond memories of my mom bringing me home the chicken noodle soup (another favorite) whenever I was sick and requested it 😀
 
The last time I went to a non disney theme park with another Disney fanatic friend she said, "i dont come to other theme parks because all I see are flaws"" 🤣

Without question, my wife and I are Disney snobs. My youngest son recently took a trip with friends to check out Halloween Horror Nights at Universal and they stayed at BLT. My son said he would never go back to Universal for lots of reasons and how nice their view was from the 1bdrm preferred view villa at BLT, and I realized then we are raising the next generation of Disney snobs.
 
Without question, my wife and I are Disney snobs. My youngest son recently took a trip with friends to check out Halloween Horror Nights at Universal and they stayed at BLT. My son said he would never go back to Universal for lots of reasons and how nice their view was from the 1bdrm preferred view villa at BLT, and I realized then we are raising the next generation of Disney snobs.
Ugh same here, my 2nd cousins who have been traveling with us say they now base how good a hotel is on how nice the room and view is, don't know where they got this idea 🤣🤣
 










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