Diabetic Birthday Cheesecake?

[flyingcowofdoom]

Hey all,

My wife and I will be going to Chef Mickey's, Crystal Palace, and Tony's Town Square on her birthday in a few weeks. (A birthday meal trifecta!) Unfortunately, she is severely diabetic and can't eat sugar or anything even
moderately high in carbs. (For example, she tries to limit each meal
to approximately 20 carbs or fewer when possible). I was hoping to have at least one of the restaurants provide some sort of birthday cake and singing. I sent an e-mail to the WDW special diets e-mail address, but haven't yet heard back.

I'm guessing they will offer some sugar-free mousse or something they already have, but it's no good because they use malitol for most of their sugar-free desserts, and malitol makes my wife feel very sick. I thought maybe they would be able to make a low-carb cheesecake or something else birthday cake-y without sugar for her. Has anyone else had any luck with such requests?

Assuming they won't make something special, does anyone know of somewhere in the Orlando area I could buy one and bring to dinner? Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

--FCOD

 

[mickey&minniealways]

I would call special diets myself if I were you. Also there is a very good guide book that you might consider. It is called Open Mouse. It is a passporter. Alot of people around here have used it. There is some very good info there on touring the world with dietary restrictions.

 

[katml14]

Severely diabetic? I'm guessing type 2? Is she on an insulin regimin or pills?

If she is on a low carb diet be very careful with "sugar free" desserts. Alot of sugar free choices have more carbs than their full sugar counterpart.

 

[flyingcowofdoom]

I received a response from the special diets e-mail address. Apparently there is a Cake Hotline (407-827-2253) from which you can order custom make cakes. I left them a message, so we'll see if they can do a low-carb one.

--FCOD

 

[PatsMom]

20 carbs is not much. Is she working with a nutrtionist? Anyhow, all I really have to add is that diabetics who count carbs have to be very careful with sugar free anything - the substitutes tend to have just as many carbs as sugar and can really upset your digestive system.

 

[flyingcowofdoom]

20 carbs is not much. Is she working with a nutrtionist? Anyhow, all I really have to add is that diabetics who count carbs have to be very careful with sugar free anything - the substitutes tend to have just as many carbs as sugar and can really upset your digestive system.

I genuinely appreciate your concern but don't worry: since going on a very low-carb diet my wife has lost over 100 pounds and is now the optimal weight for her height, her cholesterol dropped from being very high to perfect, and she feels great. She had so much success that I am now doing a low-carb diet myself, since I can stand to lose a few pounds (so far I've lost 15) and it is just a healthier diet overall (as long as you don't forget to take your fiber and vitamin supplements!)

What people fail to realize is that the carbs in flour, milk, potato, etc are just as bad as carbs in sugar. My father-in-law will eat diabetic cookies like there's no tomorrow, even though they are made with flour and still have almost the same amount of carbs.

Eating carbs is the easiest way to raise your cholesterol and get fat. I challenge anyone who is overweight to eat fewer than 100 carbs per day and not lose weight. If you understand the way the body processes food and utilizes insulin, it makes perfect sense to eat fewer carbs. New studies are showing that a low-carb diet is better than a low-fat diet.

Sweeteners like malitol (a.k.a maltitol and isomalt) and sorbitol are very upsetting to the digestive tract and we avoid them. However, sucralose does not have the same negative effects and it tastes better anyway. It has no carbs, tastes delicious, and can be heated safely. Splenda is made with sucralose but they add dextrose (another word for sugar) to it to make a powder. A little known fact is that each packet of Splenda has almost a half a carb. We buy liquid sucralose and it works perfectly. We have discovered/developed many other substitutes for high-carb dishes that taste great and have few net carbs. I'd be happy to share more specific tips with anyone who is interested.

--FCOD

 

[PatsMom]

Your wife has certainly done a great job controlling her weight which is a great help with diabetes. I limit myself to 30 to 40 carbs per meal (less at breakfast). If I want a dessert, you'll see a very low carb meal on my plate!

A diabetic diet as I understand it from my endo, nutritionist and educator is really nothing more than a basic healthy, low fat, low carb diet. I am at a point where I just want to maintain my current weight but I'll keep your experience in mind. Although I found that when I restricted my carbs to that low a level, my blood sugars tended to get really high as I would get a dump of glucose from the liver. But everyone is different so I'm glad it works for your wife!

 

[SAT]

FCOD did you ever get an answer? I'm going down to to WDW over Christmas (my first visit since T2 dx). I too am doing low-carb and sugar alcohols really do a digestive track number on me as well. I'd love to get a sugar-free, made with Splenda cheesecake to snack on during the week.

Please update as soon as you hear anything.

 

[flyingcowofdoom]

They gave me the Cake Hotline number (407-827-2253). I called for Tony's Town Square and they are getting a personal sized sugar free cheesecake.

I also called the hotline for Chef Mickey, and they said they couldn't do anything sugar free that didn't contain malitol/maltitol. Go figure.

I suppose each restaurant is different, but it's worth asking.

--FCOD

 

[kaytieeldr]

But does Tony's understand the cake also can't contain malitol/maltitol? That simply being sugar-free isn't sufficient for your wife's particular needs?

 

[flyingcowofdoom]

But does Tony's understand the cake also can't contain malitol/maltitol? That simply being sugar-free isn't sufficient for your wife's particular needs?

Yes, they sent me the ingredient list for the cake. I got the impression that they aren't making it there, I think they order it from an outside company.

--FCOD

 

[Talking Hands]

Yes, they sent me the ingredient list for the cake. I got the impression that they aren't making it there, I think they order it from an outside company.

--FCOD

Ask to see the actual container that it comes in before you eat it. I have had people tell me it is sugar alcohol free when they actually are not. The results are not pleasant.

 

[flyingcowofdoom]

Ask to see the actual container that it comes in before you eat it. I have had people tell me it is sugar alcohol free when they actually are not. The results are not pleasant.

They sent me the list of ingredients off of the packaging, I don't think it will be necessary to see it at the restaurant, I don't see where else they would have gotten a list of ingredients.

--FCOD

 

[flyingcowofdoom]

FCOD did you ever get an answer? I'm going down to to WDW over Christmas (my first visit since T2 dx). I too am doing low-carb and sugar alcohols really do a digestive track number on me as well. I'd love to get a sugar-free, made with Splenda cheesecake to snack on during the week.

Please update as soon as you hear anything.

We just got back. We had a great time, despite the cheese cake, LOL. It was disgusting. They had one for my wife at Chef Mickey's after breakfast and it certainly contained no sugar (or any sweetener at all, as far as we could tell). We decided to cancel the one for dinner and instead I brought a low-carb brownie that the waitress at Tony's plated and put a candle in. Officially, their policy is that they won't do that but I asked anyway and was terrific about it.

If you're interested, the brownie is made by a company called Eat Rite and is delicious: http://www.lindasdietdelites.com/di...eat-rite-low-carb-choc-o-holic-square-94.html

I am not sure if you're newly diagnosed T2 or just haven't been to Disney for a while, but doing low-carb has become a lot easier in the past few years, I'd be happy to share some tips with you if you're interested. Just shoot me a PM if you are

Overall, I am disappointed with the lack of good low-carb options at Disney, especially given the comparatively vast selection of gluten free options they have now.

--FCOD