Debt Dumpers - 2014

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this board, but I'm excited to get started because I really need to get in better financial shape. I'm so glad I found y'all!

I currently have 58k in student loans:headache: and obviously can't pay it all off in 2014, but my goal is to pay 10k in principle this year and get it all paid off by May 2018 (5 years from when I started paying).

I'm also going to try the 52 week plan, but in a random order depending on how much I can afford each week (via spreadsheet).

Welcome to the boards!! Sounds like you have a great plan in action!
 
Recently purchased the ynab from steam for 14.95. But can't figure out how to download this so I can start using. Anyone with any help would be much appreciated. ;)
 
So many people have been helped by Dave Ramsey that I'm not sure why I feel like this...When I hear someone gush that they follow Ramsey's teaching I feel like I'm listening to a sermon given by someone that has been brainwashed.

The basic principles of saving and getting out of debt are not complicated DON'T SPEND MORE THAN YOU MAKE by not carrying debt it will free up your money so you can save more it's that simple.

I'm for anyone that can help people realize that racking up debt is a harmful thing.

I do have a problem with someone that imposes his opinions and beliefs on others saying his way is the only way to reach their goals and telling these same people harmful things that can actually hinder them from reaching their goals. (AT A PRICE).

Ramsey's personal wealth is now over 55 million dollars, he doesn't need to use a Credit Card or worry about his FICO Score so he can purchase a home, automobile, insurance premiums or now even about a potential employer checking his credit report.

For some reason when I think of Ramsey I visualize a Snake Oil Salesman standing beside a tent selling tickets....Welcome back my friends to a show that never ends Come inside, Come inside.

If you find his advise helpful I'm truly happy for you, but I just can't agree with his advise.

I know I shouldn't even post this because of all his Minions, but I have...so now I can move on.

Thank You
Beckie
 
So many people have been helped by Dave Ramsey that I'm not sure why I feel like this...When I hear someone gush that they follow Ramsey's teaching I feel like I'm listening to a sermon given by someone that has been brainwashed.

The basic principles of saving and getting out of debt are not complicated DON'T SPEND MORE THAN YOU MAKE by not carrying debt it will free up your money so you can save more it that simple.

I'm for anyone that can help people realize that racking up debt is a harmful thing.

I do have a problem with someone that imposes his opinions and beliefs on others saying his way is the only way to reach their goals and telling these same people harmful things that can actually hinder them from reaching their goals. (AT A PRICE).

Ramsey's personal wealth is now over 55 million dollars, he doesn't need to use a Credit Card or worry about his FICO Score so he can purchase a home, automobile, insurance premiums or now even about a potential employer checking his credit report.

For some reason when I think of Ramsey I visualize a Snake Oil Salesman standing beside a tent selling tickets....Welcome back my friends to a show that never ends Come in side, Come in side.

If you find his advise helpful I'm truly happy for you, but I just can't agree with his advise.

I know I shouldn't even post this because of all his Minions, but I have...so now I can move on.

Thank You
Beckie


Beckie, how do you really feel??? :lmao::rotfl2: :rotfl:
 

I started reading the debt dumper thread in 2013 and got so many good ideas from it, that I'd like to take a more active role this year!! In the last 6 months I have paid off $11,000 in cc debt. We're about a third of the way there ... it's hard but so much more satisfying than I would have imagined! There is something very freeing about following a budget. There is no question about whether you can afford something or not, whether you should buy something or not. It's all down in black and white. And seeing the balances on my statements come down every month? Definitely cause for happy dancing! :cool1: For the first time in our lives, my husband and I have a significant emergency fund and have saved enough to pay cash for our Disney vacation in August.
It's really amazing to me how easy it is to give up those things you thought you couldn't live without a short time ago!
Anyway, thanks for providing the encouragement and for listening to the rambling!!
 
I like Dave Ramsey in that I think it helps psychologically with saving, especially for those that are completely overwhelmed. He does tend to give a good road map.

That being said, I do not think once you get to having enough to cover bills, etc. that his advice is financially the best way to do things. If we had followed his order of steps, we'd be screwed right now. I would rather have more cash in the bank than to pay off debt quickly with only 1k in the bank. If something happens, the debt can deferred or put off, having no cash would be more serious.

Also, retirement is much better compounding than doing it after everything. We do everything in tandem, saving, retirement, paying down student loans.
 
I started reading the debt dumper thread in 2013 and got so many good ideas from it, that I'd like to take a more active role this year!! In the last 6 months I have paid off $11,000 in cc debt. We're about a third of the way there ... it's hard but so much more satisfying than I would have imagined! There is something very freeing about following a budget. There is no question about whether you can afford something or not, whether you should buy something or not. It's all down in black and white. And seeing the balances on my statements come down every month? Definitely cause for happy dancing! :cool1: For the first time in our lives, my husband and I have a significant emergency fund and have saved enough to pay cash for our Disney vacation in August.
It's really amazing to me how easy it is to give up those things you thought you couldn't live without a short time ago!
Anyway, thanks for providing the encouragement and for listening to the rambling!!
Bubba :wave:

WELCOME sounds like you have been doing a GREAT JOB.
 
SpaceGirl said:
So many people have been helped by Dave Ramsey that I'm not sure why I feel like this...When I hear someone gush that they follow Ramsey's teaching I feel like I'm listening to a sermon given by someone that has been brainwashed.

The basic principles of saving and getting out of debt are not complicated DON'T SPEND MORE THAN YOU MAKE by not carrying debt it will free up your money so you can save more it's that simple.

I'm for anyone that can help people realize that racking up debt is a harmful thing.

I do have a problem with someone that imposes his opinions and beliefs on others saying his way is the only way to reach their goals and telling these same people harmful things that can actually hinder them from reaching their goals. (AT A PRICE).

Ramsey's personal wealth is now over 55 million dollars, he doesn't need to use a Credit Card or worry about his FICO Score so he can purchase a home, automobile, insurance premiums or now even about a potential employer checking his credit report.

For some reason when I think of Ramsey I visualize a Snake Oil Salesman standing beside a tent selling tickets....Welcome back my friends to a show that never ends Come inside, Come inside.

If you find his advise helpful I'm truly happy for you, but I just can't agree with his advise.

I know I shouldn't even post this because of all his Minions, but I have...so now I can move on.

Thank You
Beckie

Snake oil salesman is exactly what I think of DR. You're just much more eloquent than I could ever be about it.
 
So many people have been helped by Dave Ramsey that I'm not sure why I feel like this...When I hear someone gush that they follow Ramsey's teaching I feel like I'm listening to a sermon given by someone that has been brainwashed.

The basic principles of saving and getting out of debt are not complicated DON'T SPEND MORE THAN YOU MAKE by not carrying debt it will free up your money so you can save more it that simple.

I'm for anyone that can help people realize that racking up debt is a harmful thing.

I do have a problem with someone that imposes his opinions and beliefs on others saying his way is the only way to reach their goals and telling these same people harmful things that can actually hinder them from reaching their goals. (AT A PRICE).

Ramsey's personal wealth is now over 55 million dollars, he doesn't need to use a Credit Card or worry about his FICO Score so he can purchase a home, automobile, insurance premiums or now even about a potential employer checking his credit report.

For some reason when I think of Ramsey I visualize a Snake Oil Salesman standing beside a tent selling tickets....Welcome back my friends to a show that never ends Come in side, Come in side.

If you find his advise helpful I'm truly happy for you, but I just can't agree with his advise.

I know I shouldn't even post this because of all his Minions, but I have...so now I can move on.

Thank You
Beckie

This is sound advice and it sounds so simple but if it were, none of us would be here, right? Just like to lose weight you must burn more calories than we take in. Simple right? but obesity is at an all time high. I used to weigh a lot less than I do now and if it were so simple, we'd all be thin & heart disease & diabetes would be some rare thing.
I have quit smoking 18 yrs ago so I know willpower!

I think DR gives people hope & direction when they feel like all hope is lost in the dark. A map to follow, so to speak, that will guide them to a safe place. I haven't listened to his advice for how to invest once you're out of debt so I can't comment on his advice for that.

Many people have no guidance at all, not sure if they're doing the right thing, whether they have debt or not.
We saw a financial advisor when we first had ds17. I already had a TSA with Vanguard (known for low overhead costs) through work that was doing very well. The FA was trying to get us to invest in some mutual fund that had a 5% load (fee) just to invest with them. The returns were no higher than what I was earning with Vanguard AND they skimmed 5% right off the top. What kind of stupid advice is that? :confused3 Thanks, but no thanks.
Also we had a very small amount of debt back then and he didn't say one word to stress about getting this paid off ASAP or give us any advice about starting an emergency plan. Wouldn't this be priority advice for a young couple with a new baby & just bought a home? :furious:

He looked over our tax return to see if we were missing out on some deduction we'd qualify for and said we're doing all we can there. (My dad has an accounting degree & taught me to do my own taxes since I was 16 but of course tax laws change. A few years ago when we ended up owing instead of getting a refund, we saw an accountant who also said we're doing all we can, just not enough was taken out of my pay and I needed to change my # of dependents for withholding.)

It all seemed like a waste of my time and I felt like "so much for asking the experts". :rolleyes1

As I said before, I don't believe in everything he says, esp the part about not funding the retirement plan. Though I have to admit, if we were younger, I might consider it. It would certain cut our payoff time waaay down. omg.

Also, I can't get into his "gazelle intensity". If we starve ourselves financially to the extreme, we won't stay with it. It's like trying to become anorexic to lose weight. Sure, you could do it for a few days, but a year or 2? Not likely on your own.

While I mathematically disagree with not paying the higher interest accounts first, I do agree that paying the smaller ones first is exciting/motivating and not such a huge mountain to overcome. It makes the whole thing seem surmountable. I look forward to pay days just to see the balance drop more.

In my situation, the smaller ones were 0% interest and this really bothered me to focus on those but now that my "list" is so much shorter, I really do feel motivated to keep going. :cool1:

Sorry for going on & on but I can see why he's popular for so many people.
Still I won't buy anything from him. lol.
 
I started reading the debt dumper thread in 2013 and got so many good ideas from it, that I'd like to take a more active role this year!! In the last 6 months I have paid off $11,000 in cc debt. We're about a third of the way there ... it's hard but so much more satisfying than I would have imagined! There is something very freeing about following a budget. There is no question about whether you can afford something or not, whether you should buy something or not. It's all down in black and white. And seeing the balances on my statements come down every month? Definitely cause for happy dancing! :cool1: For the first time in our lives, my husband and I have a significant emergency fund and have saved enough to pay cash for our Disney vacation in August.
It's really amazing to me how easy it is to give up those things you thought you couldn't live without a short time ago!
Anyway, thanks for providing the encouragement and for listening to the rambling!!

Welcome to the boards!! You should most definitely be doing a happy dance :cool1: $11,000 paid off in 6 months is awesome :thumbsup2 It does feel great to actually see the balance go down every month on that statement. That is what definitely kept me motivated! I hope you continue to be active in this thread, join in on the conversation and give advice as to what helped you!
 
I've never followed DR and have only picked up some things that he says from these boards. Are he a Suzi Orman anything alike? I have watched her show two or three times and I just can't deal with her. She drives me up the wall. I do like the segment can I afford it just to see what they want to buy, how much it is, etc. :rotfl:
 
While I mathematically disagree with not paying the higher interest accounts first, I do agree that paying the smaller ones first is exciting/motivating and not such a huge mountain to overcome. It makes the whole thing seem surmountable. I look forward to pay days just to see the balance drop more.

Sorry for going on & on but I can see why he's popular for so many people.
Still I won't buy anything from him.
lol.

I agree with you, I'm happy because of his marketing he has made people more conscious of their Debt problem.

Paying down the higher interest cards was/will always be my priory, yet for some people paying down the smaller cards reaching that first 0 balance (baby steps) is needed to continue. (Self-Gratification of a quick payoff) I guess I always felt that self-gratification was one of the biggest obstacles that I had..."I want it NOW."

I don't have any problems with his plains to paying off your debt it's just his other financial advise that gets my Blood a Burning...:furious: and the fact that he is compensated for recommending it.
 
I've never followed DR and have only picked up some things that he says from these boards. Are he a Suzi Orman anything alike? I have watched her show two or three times and I just can't deal with her. She drives me up the wall. I do like the segment can I afford it just to see what they want to buy, how much it is, etc. :rotfl:

While they both have books, TV shows investment seminars, Suzi Orman seems to focus on educating you so you can make your own decisions so your not paying high fees to someone else when you can do it yourself and make your own mind up.

Example: Last night Suzi was on QVC selling a package with 4 disc that would help up set up your will, trust, insurance all kinds of important items and records...she actual told people to share it with their family and friends because they could download the disc to their computers for free no additional cost. I have also heard her tell people to go to the library to checkout her books...I have never heard any other adviser recommending things like this but she does, her thinking is you need help but it shouldn't cost you to learn.
 
I agree with you, I'm happy because of his marketing he has made people more conscious of their Debt problem. Paying down the higher interest cards was/will always be my priory, yet for some people paying down the smaller cards reaching that first 0 balance (baby steps) is needed to continue. (Self-Gratification of a quick payoff) I guess I always felt that self-gratification was one of the biggest obstacles that I had..."I want it NOW." I don't have any problems with his plains to paying off your debt it's just his other financial advise that gets my Blood a Burning...:furious: and the fact that he is compensated for recommending it.

My husband and I have taken the FPU when it was offered at church in the past. This was before we met and got married. I liked the baby steps because as a single mom at the time, I was very overwhelmed and this kind of broke it down into manageable pieces for me. One thing I don't agree with is the money envelope thing. The program comes with a wallet like thing that has envelopes to put all your cash in. Well guess who left her wallet on the counter at Walmart? I was so upset. ALL of my money was in that wallet. I called Walmart and they said someone turned it in, and thank God, all the money was still there!!! That was a real eye opener!!

That's why I like YNAB so much. It gives me that same kind of structure but without the risk of leaving all my cash at the store!!

My daughters fiancé is an account manager and is very knowledgable about all things financial. He doesn't like Dave Ramsey either.

I have read some of the advice you have given others and it is very obvious you too are very knowledgable about financial things.

I told my daughters fiancé that for finance experts I'm sure that Dave seems annoying but for the financially challenged people, he really helps to break it down for us and gives us a little structure.

We all learn in different ways and what works for some doesn't work for all. :)
 
So I mentioned the other day that I hadn't had any unexpected surprises. Well, the vet bill yesterday (which I estimated at $100) came in at a whopping $400 :eek:
 
So I mentioned the other day that I hadn't had any unexpected surprises. Well, the vet bill yesterday (which I estimated at $100) came in at a whopping $400 :eek:

Yikes!! That stinks. My husband just spilled a cup of coffee all over the top of his laptop. It's done. While it's not an emergency, we do depend on our computer and use it for more than entertainment. Oh well, we will be able to replace it in a week or two. Sure wasn't planning on that though.
 
I agree with you, I'm happy because of his marketing he has made people more conscious of their Debt problem.

Paying down the higher interest cards was/will always be my priory, yet for some people paying down the smaller cards reaching that first 0 balance (baby steps) is needed to continue. (Self-Gratification of a quick payoff) I guess I always felt that self-gratification was one of the biggest obstacles that I had..."I want it NOW."

I don't have any problems with his plains to paying off your debt it's just his other financial advise that gets my Blood a Burning...:furious: and the fact that he is compensated for recommending it.

While they both have books, TV shows investment seminars, Suzi Orman seems to focus on educating you so you can make your own decisions so your not paying high fees to someone else when you can do it yourself and make your own mind up.

Example: Last night Suzi was on QVC selling a package with 4 disc that would help up set up your will, trust, insurance all kinds of important items and records...she actual told people to share it with their family and friends because they could download the disc to their computers for free no additional cost. I have also heard her tell people to go to the library to checkout her books...I have never heard any other adviser recommending things like this but she does, her thinking is you need help but it shouldn't cost you to learn.

She gets compensation too and isn't doing it for charitable purposes.
Just saying...;)
 
Yikes!! That stinks. My husband just spilled a cup of coffee all over the top of his laptop. It's done. While it's not an emergency, we do depend on our computer and use it for more than entertainment. Oh well, we will be able to replace it in a week or two. Sure wasn't planning on that though.

Ugh! Don't you hate that. Stuff happens though.

The good news is that laptops have dropped in price so much. When I think back to what we spent for our first one. :(
 
yikes grace1, that's a whopping vet bill!

DH and I have an appointment next week to set up our Roth IRA. Anything we should bring with us? On the phone she said to bring anything with us we would want him to look over but I'm not sure what we should bring.

I haven't had a chance to yet, but I cannot wait to sit down and budget out this next paycheck coming next week and see where the money is going :rotfl2:
 















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