DEBATE: Treasure Planet - a potential Classic?

[Bstanley]

OK, based on the comments so far, here's the way I've scored it:

Classic? : 0

Good? : 7

Ok? : 3

Bad? : 3


So it looks like it won't ever sneak up and become a Classic, but it also looks like it will make people wonder why they didn't go see it in the theatres after they rent the DVD - should have done better at the box-office...unless we are such googly-eyed Disney fans that we just can't see straight.

 

[crainbow]

I did not see this movie in the initial run, I did purchase it. I did not find it to be as bad as some of the reviews had made it out to be, although I could not put my finger on what I disliked until I watched some of the bonus material. I think the original opening that the directors conceived was much better than the one that made the final cut. After watching that footage, it got me to wonder what else lost out to the focus groups and other elements that have a veto voice over the directors and writers.

It also appears that the element that is ruling the Disney Studios is reminiscent of the late 60's-70's Studio executives.

My $0.02.

Chuck

 

[primax]

Treasure Planet rules, this is a great movie. The animation and music was awesome. Disney released at a horrible time - that simple.

The one thing about the movie that hurts it a little is that the movie is based on the book Treasure Island (TI). I don't like the book, the TI movies, or the muppets version of TI.


I did like Disney's version much better in TP

 

[d-r]

It may not be a Disney Princess Magic (tm) movie, but that's OK by me.

I know, Atlantis is hardly a benchmark to shoot for, but since they are in the same genre, I thought it appropriate.

But Atlantis DID have a princess in it, she WAS magic, and she didn't even have a mother - frankly, I don't see how you can get more Disney Princess than that.

OK, I'm being smart-elicky here, but there is an honest part of me that still doesn't get this "genre" thing about why Atlantis/TP are "action/adventure/sci-fi/fantasy" and other Disney "classics" like Alladin or Lion King aren't. Is it ALIENS? Then what about Toy Story or Lilo and Stitch? I know I must be really dense on this because scoop tried and tried to explain it to me, I just don't buy it.

No, I don't get it.

I've said on here before that I liked TP just fine, I thought it was visually stunning, I liked the I'm still here song, and I thought that they did a good job with staying loyal to the story but picking up the pace (as compared to the live action treasure island).

Oh, and another thing. I don't buy AV's stuff that "action" doesn't work for animation, because people know it isn't "real" and so they don't get committed to it. Again, I would point out that almost every single non-disney cartoon on saturday morning is action, and I would point out things like the stampede in the lion king or the fight with malificant the dragon in sleeping beauty. Third, I would offer that most of the public is savy enough to know that the matrix, spiderman, or XXX isn't very real either.

Nope. I think what hurt TP and Atlantis is that most of the public wants bubble gum disney movies for preschoolers and they really don't care at all about the quality of it. That is why atrocities like Piglet and Jungle Book 2 (I can't tell you how sick that makes me) make more money than TP. So the animation geeks say "give us something original, get off the same old re-tread" but the public says "I'll take my kid to anything that is syrupy sweet." And when the word of mouth perception is that this isn't a "kiddie" movie, they stay away. I think it really is that simple. The truth is, there aren't a lot of animation geeks out there; most people think that Disney movies are just for kids and that is what they expect and want. The teens and tweens think that disney movies are for little squirts and they want to see something cool instead.

DR

 

[kitnrose]

I actually have yet to see TP, so my two cents are along the line of why I didn't even consider spending $7 to see it in the theater... I think a LOT of it was timing, both with the other movies it came out next to (LOTR got plenty of my dollars because it's just so incomparibly incredible) and the disney movies it was closest to, specifically L&S, Atlantis, and Country Bears. I love love love L&S but it's always had the 'feel' of a sequal to me, comparible to Rescuers Down Under (which, by the way is one of my all time favorites despite it's many problems, so actually that's a major compliment for L&S). Pair all that with horrible advertising for TP and you have me and many others walking away from the preview saying "wow, disney's finally run out of scrips." Plus just that it's the third remaking of that book... what is making me find a time this next week to go out and rent is is what I keep hearing... "It's sooo much better than I expected." Sounds like Disney shot themselves in the big yellow foot (to modify the expression) all the way to the actual opening of this film. Hopefully they'll learn and I'm looking forwards to Nemo!