Johnny's Back........
After a short delay I return to
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Actually, that hour has passed and I give up on Baron and the moderates. My last word (because you know Baron will have to get the last on the subject
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I did. Maintenance. Price. Plush! Work on those for a while. Im sure Ill come up with some more.
Maintenance and the "mods"? You have provided nary a comment on that. Price? Well you know I think your double the rate of inflation analysis is flawed (even though a true double the CPI rate might have been what the industry was experiencing
). Plush? This has something to do with hotels? Come up with more? YOU NEED MORE!!! All you have really given me is a 'there is something missing', 'can't put my finger on it' 'feel' and that is enough...........for you not to accept them. But to declare that they are not up to the standard? Not this, or any reasonable jury. Not sure what kind of lawyer Scoop is - but I'd love to see him take you down in court
. 'Nuff said on this end and the last word is yours if you like it
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That being said, I would like to discuss your Beatles/Wings analogy because it is completely and totally flawed - if you are tryng to support your argument that is
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Lets look a little closer. I will agree with you that the experience, the hysteria, the anticipation, brilliance, carziness, the whole scene in relation to the Beatles was a more intense, more incredible, even a 'better' experience. But why exactly was that? I submit it was because the Beatles were revolutionary. The Beatles had found something that had never been developed before. They found a way to take the music of the time to another level. THEY WERE THE WALT DISNEY OF MUSIC!!!! With that you think the trial is over. Case closed. You win. I say no, counsellor. I object your honor - relevance! To which the judge says - sustained - of course
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Let me explain why. For starters, any comparison of WDW to the Beatles is simply an attempt to make a shoe fit. But WDW can't wear that shoe. You see, it was
Disneyland that would be the Ed Sullivan appearance. Disneyland is the true Beatles - the innovative park, the amusement park of the time taken to a new level. WDW would be somewhere down the Beatles album list - not that that is an insignificant thing.
Now lets talk about that innovation in music if you will. The hysteria, the significance was the innovation. You see, the Beatles didn't strike the chords any better, or sing the melodies any better, or compose the song, or write the lyrics, etc., etc. any better than Paul did with Wings, or than any number of bands did after the Beatles. That Beatles hysteria was primarily due to the fact that these guys were innovative and created rock and roll. They were the first to do it, and damn they were good. But guess what, a hell of a lot of the music that has come post Beatles has been just as good, if not techically better. Can you simply dismiss all the music that was post Beatles because it didn't display the same innovation? No. Did they have their own innovations (all be it not as significant)? Yes. Is the concert experience the same as the Beatles? Hell no - none ever will be. The Beatles experience was a unique one that will never be matched for a number of reasons. However, the quality of the music is not one of them.
Guess what? I'll even give you the synergy thing. Yes, somehow the way the Beatles sounded together was better than the way that John, Paul, George or Ringo
sounded on their own. I'd say the same about Genesis vs. Phil or Peter. Cream vs. Clapton. Zeppelin vs. Plant. Simon and Garfunkel vs. Simon or Garfunkel. Floyd vs. Waters. The Five vs. Tito
. Need I go on? We can come up with more. These bands when they were together were something incredible. However, it was a case of the whole being more than the sum of the parts. The parts were all flawless, but together they were better than they should have been. It was a 'there is just something there', 'can't put my finger on it', 'feel'. However, the way these individual artists struck the chords, sang the melodies, composed the music, wrote the songs, etc. etc. was just as good, just as up to any standard you want to put them up against - except one. That one would be the unattainable standard of being the first to explore a certain aspect or sound in the music of the day, and as a result being better than the sum of the parts.
So I bring this back to WDW in case you aren't following along. Lets give you WDW as an innovation since it was more than just the MK (which was a sequel - a real departure for Walt
). In 1972 it was an experience that can never be, will never be matched. Is that because the type of quality displayed in 1972 has never been, will never be, recreated? Absolutely not. However, so long as the 'perspective', the 'standard' is WDW as the Beatles there was never any hope that Disney could be 'Disney' in your eyes (the light the heat) again. I am complete-d with my thought. Whew! I need a tall cool one after all that. Follow me, cause I follow you? You know what - after all of this I feel like a boxer, a fighter by my trade. I have to lay lady lay, lay across my big brass bed because I am tired. You see, every concert experience after the Beatles, as with so many things experienced after the WDW of 1972 (or 1984, or....) is a different one. But can you say that the music wasn't rock and roll up to the Beatles standard, the WDW additions weren't up to the Disney standard, just because the expreience was something different? Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I respectfully submit no. I suppose that if innovation is added to Safety, Courtesy, Show, and Efficiency as the fifth element (Baron - if you wanted to compare the WDW of 1990 to a bad movie this would have been a good choice
) then some of the items added between 1972 and 1990 might not have fit the revised standard - but I don't believe that is part of the core standards that we should measure against. Sure WDW needs innovation, but not every addition can represent a true innovation. That in no way means it should not have been added or does not meet the 'Disney standard'. I submit to you that to some the music, the concert, WDW is even something 'less'. However, that is only because the defendant is asking you to hold Disney up to a measuring stick that has nothing to do with quality, or Show, or tradition, or the true standards, but to an unattainable 'standard' that exists today only in memory, or in ones personal preference. (The judge did ask for closing arguments, right?)
who has the better perspective?
I do of course!! Why...
The hair. The mustaches. The drugs. Neru jackets!! The whole scene!!
....that you were so caught up in. However, it must have been that purple haze that left you unable to realize that, but for the hysteria, everything was present in 1990 that was present in 1972, including a hell of a variety of great music.
. That's about a 2% premium over the inflation rate.
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